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DAMN 2K GET WITH THE PROGRAM
2K has the money. The developers. The technology. The resources.
So why is cheating still such a massive problem?
Weβre TWO WEEKS into developing NATION, a community-built basketball gaming project, and weβve already detected 11 cheaters.
How?
Our launcher detects known cheat tools like Cheat Engine, WeMod, and trainers. Our servers inspect uploaded saves for manipulated badges. Every case gets three separate staff reviews before enforcement.
And weβre just getting started.
2K has had years and massive resources to tackle this. Players are still dealing with cheating while spending real money on VC and builds.
At what point do we stop accepting this?
Is cheating really that hard to fight, or has protecting competitive integrity just not been enough of a priority?
Remote Play doesnβt automatically make something undetectable. Youβre just moving the software off the console. The game still receives the inputs and processes the shots.
Thatβs my whole point. You donβt always need to find the cheat itself. You can analyze the behavior it produces. Timing, consistency, patterns over multiple games.
Is it harder to detect? Absolutely. Impossible? No.
I agree Sony and Microsoft need to do more, but that doesnβt mean 2Kβs hands are tied. You donβt have to physically detect a Cronus or XIM to catch suspicious input behavior. Look at what COD is already doing with input timing and consistency.
Weβre talking about a game where shooting comes down to timing. You can analyze that data server-side, flag unnatural patterns, and investigate them. Hardware detection is another layer, not the entire solution.
2K has the resources to take this further. Thatβs my whole point.
Appreciate you reaching out! Thatβs actually a solid background, especially with your experience in basketball, development, and UI/UX. We could definitely use another set of eyes on Nation.
Shoot me a DM so we can figure out whatβs going on with Discord and get you connected. Would love to hear your feedback on what weβre building.
I get what youβre saying bro and I agree to an extent. But a lot of it comes down to intent too. Yeah the game is old, but weβve put a lot of work into giving players ways to actually progress. You start with all your core badges at Bronze, can upgrade to Silver and Gold through the shop, and grind for HOF through Park.
So itβs not like weβre forcing people to cheat just to enjoy the game. And this wasnβt someone accidentally finding an exploit either. There were multiple attempts using different tools to get around the system.
At the end of the day, weβre trying to build something where peopleβs time and progression actually mean something. Appreciate the love and feedback bro π«±πΎβπ«²π½
Nah saying thereβs nothing 2K can do is crazy lol. Removing shot meters and rhythm shooting isnβt gonna change anything. These cheats donβt even need a meter anymore. They can work straight off controller inputs.
And itβs not all on Microsoft and Sony either. Thereβs server-side detection, input analysis, behavioral tracking and plenty of other ways to catch this stuff.
Weβre literally two weeks into developing Nation and already caught 11 cheaters with our own systems. And weβre just getting started.
Iβm not saying itβs easy or that you can stop every cheater, but come on now. 2K has the money, developers and resources to do a whole lot more than what theyβre doing.
And thatβs exactly the problem. Cheaters are still paying customers, and some spend a lot of money on builds and VC. Banning them could mean losing revenue. But what about the legitimate players who quit because theyβre tired of cheating?
At some point, protecting your player base should matter more than protecting short-term revenue.
Thatβs exactly what I think is gonna happen. The legit players are getting tired of it, creators are moving on, and eventually all youβre left with is cheaters playing against other cheaters. How long is that sustainable? Iβve been on the development side of this stuff and I can tell you there are ways to fight it. Itβs never gonna be perfect, but doing nothing isnβt the answer either.
Oh trust me, I know. Thatβs exactly my point. How much of their player base would they lose if they actually cracked down on cheating? And how much money are those same players spending on VC, builds, and everything else? At some point you gotta question whether stopping cheating is really a priority when thereβs money being made off the same people doing it.
If 2K doesnβt wanna take cheating seriously, thatβs on them. Weβre focused on protecting our own community and making sure everybody gets a fair game.
I get what youβre saying, and youβre right that detecting cheats on console is a different challenge. Especially with computer vision and devices that mimic controller inputs. But I think thereβs still a lot that can be done by looking at gameplay patterns, timing, and consistency on the server side. Itβs not going to catch everything, and false positives are something you have to be careful with. Weβre only two weeks into building our system and still have a lot to figure out ourselves. Just getting started.
2K has the money. The developers. The technology. The resources.
So why is cheating still such a massive problem?
Weβre TWO WEEKS into developing NATION, a community-built basketball gaming project, and weβve already detected 11 cheaters.
How?
Our launcher detects known cheat tools like Cheat Engine, WeMod, and trainers. Our servers inspect uploaded saves for manipulated badges. Every case gets three separate staff reviews before enforcement.
And weβre just getting started.
2K has had years and massive resources to tackle this. Players are still dealing with cheating while spending real money on VC and builds.
At what point do we stop accepting this?
Is cheating really that hard to fight, or has protecting competitive integrity just not been enough of a priority?
Removing rhythm shooting and shot meters wonβt solve cheating in NBA 2K.
There are already scripts that automate shooting using regular X/Square button inputs. No rhythm shooting or visible meter required.
Sure, removing those mechanics might stop certain scripts, but others will adapt.
The real issue is detecting automated inputs and preventing unfair gameplay, not taking features away from legitimate players.
Been traveling and relocating these past few days and trying to keep up with development work at the same time.
Crazy how far weβve come with AI and cloud agents. I havenβt fallen behind on a single project or production task.
Now I just need my internet installed today. Been running off my hotspot for 6 days straight. That phone bill is gonna be INSANE π€£