Well said.
I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about the risks involved in believing that people are who they present to be when you lack the benefit of being close enough to discern something different.
Obviously the recent arrests of Seth and Heather Day prompted this wrestling match because I wrote the foreword for their book and once invited Heather to speak in a session of living proof live as I did two other women of similar age. I wanted my audiences to get to know these younger teachers.
Before I proceed, a disclaimer is necessary. The Days have not been heard by a court of law and remain, in the eyes of the law, innocent until proven guilty. So, I don’t know how much or how little of what I assumed will turn out to be true. Fact is, I may never know. At the end of the day, only the Ancient of Days knows.
But the risks are always true and how are we to handle them? Think about Ravi Zacharias, for instance. He made charades an art form. How were the many people who endorsed him and invited him onto their platform to know he wasn’t him?
We could—as I’ve seen people say and don’t blame them—never believe any Christian leader we don’t know well. Listen, I’m one of them and I too am struggling with the same questions you are.
A couple of nights ago, I was with 4 fellow Christian author/speakers and we talked about the same thing. One of them said, “Some people recommend only trusting the dead saints but think how many things we’ve learned about some of them.” Good question, right? So is no one genuine?
No one is Jesus. That’s for dang sure. He alone can be trusted completely.
Jesus, have mercy on us. Jesus have mercy on me. I’ve been graced beyond comprehension by God and, without the cross, am ruined. Without holding onto Jesus for dear life, I would never have learned to walk with any level of consistency.
I’m going to be thinking more about this serious conundrum but, so far, I’m imagining the tension is unavoidable. The risks are even unavoidable unless we give ourselves over to cynicism. Each of us must decide these matters for ourselves but, for me, cynicism is as great a risk as proving foolish to have believed.
The apostle Paul was sure John Mark couldn’t be counted on in ministry after he’d abandoned the mission. Yet in his final letter, he literally called for him because he had been so “helpful to me in my ministry.” Sometimes we are wrong about people. And, even if we were right, people really can change. I’m not willing to give that up. To give that up, I have to give up the gospel.
I’ve been reflecting on Jesus‘s parable of the wheat and weeds. He talks about how careful we must be in pulling up the weeds because we could pull up wheat with them. Drawing conceptually from that parable, it seems to suggest to me, if we just go tearing out everyone who’s anything like the people we wrongly believed, we’re going to pull up others who were genuine.
This is not me trying to get you to believe me. If it’s safest for you not to, you have my blessing and understanding. This is me wrestling with the same thing you are. Lord Jesus, am I to believe no Christian leader is who he or she presents to be?
Someone’s going to reply that we are to judge them by their fruit. Yes! Absolutely! But some of these appear to have had very good fruit. Think of Ravi. Plastic fruit can look like real fruit even from a few yards away.
Here’s where I’m landing for the time being and, really, I don’t even like it. I’m not going to write any more forewords. Period.
But I’m also not going to stop believing in younger Christian leaders who seem legit and refrain from cheering them on. I’d rather take the risk. People took the risk on me who weren’t living in my house and couldn’t see what was going on in my home or in my personal life. They took a chance on me.
I’m going to take a chance on people. And if I prove a fool, well, I’ve been foolish before and will be foolish again.
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If you're a Christian who watched Sunday's memorial service and wonder why you felt such an internal contradiction, its because you were watching two opposing messages on the same stage.
Your feelings weren't lying to you about either. Some thoughts:
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This.
I’ve had time to really reflect on all of this. I’ve prayed about it, thought carefully, and these are the thoughts I’ve come to.
I do believe Charlie showed a lot of fruit, and that his heart was genuinely aligned with Christ.
He cared about truth, and I don’t doubt his sincerity. At the same time, he fell into the error of Dominionism.
He openly supported the seven mountain mandate, which is all about fusing Christianity with political power.
That’s why the memorial struck me the way it did. It blurred the lines between church and state in a way that was impossible to ignore. It didn’t feel like a memorial service. It felt like a mega-church political event, almost a rally. The focus wasn’t just honoring Charlie’s life in Christ, it was about building momentum for a movement.
And that’s where my concern is. I think this moment is going to be used to give Christian nationalism a major boost. The blending of faith and politics, especially in an emotionally charged moment like this, is powerful. It draws people in.
On one hand, I’m glad people are being exposed to the name of Jesus. But I fear that what many are meeting is not the gospel of salvation, but a cultural version of Jesus being used as a political icon. That’s not the same thing as knowing Him.
That’s the danger here. When faith merges with political power, the cross gets overshadowed by a crown that isn’t meant to be worn yet. Christ Himself will bring the Kingdom at His return. Until then, our call is not to build an earthly theocracy but to faithfully follow Him, even when it looks weak in the world’s eyes.
So my reflection is this; I’m thankful for Charlie’s heart, but I’m also deeply cautious about the movement his memorial seems to be fueling. It’s something we need real discernment about in the days ahead.
Melanie Mansfield retweeted
If you are considering Christianity in the light of Charlie Kirk’s death, you must understand that Jesus Christ truly rose again from the grave.
Jesus was crucified, dead & buried.
He was placed in a tomb guarded by soldiers.
On the 3rd day, he rose again.
The apostles, who adored Jesus and saw him crucified, all saw him again after his death, in his resurrected body.
They all (except John) died for this truth.
But they wouldn’t die for a lie.
They touched the holes in hands.
They broke bread with him.
They are the fish he cooked for them for breakfast.
These were men of virtue, who each condemned lying. They themselves weren’t liars.
They did not disarm the Roman soldiers who guarded the tomb, in order to take Jesus’ body.
They were neither deluded by witchcraft nor the devil, because their faith was holy.
They performed miracles to testify to the truth they preached.
They had no motive to lie; they lived in poverty, giving up all they had.
They didn’t seek power; they were hated by Jewish and Gentile authorities alike.
They didn’t seek popularity; many despised their message of repentance.
To save themselves from being killed, they could have confessed they had invented tall tales about Christ.
But they did no such thing, because they knew the gospel was true.
Would you die for a lie that you knew to be a lie? Of course not. Neither would they. Neither did they.
They knew the truth. They were martyrs for Christ.
The blood of such martyrs is the seed of the church.
At the time they wrote, men could have sought to disprove them, but they didn’t.
The Jewish and Roman authorities could have produced the body of Jesus, but no-one ever could.
Josephus the Jewish historian wrote respectfully of Jesus.
Tacitus the Roman historian wrote about Jesus’ life and death, of the hatred of the people against the first Christians, and the Christians’ courage.
Suetonius wrote of Christ also.
Pliny the Younger affirmed to emperor Trajan the existence of many who considered Jesus Christ as God.
According to Tertullian, the emperor Tiberias even sought to add Jesus to the pantheon of Roman gods.
Noble men in every century wrote warmly of Christ.
100 years after Jesus, Justin Martyr affirmed that even many savages and nomads believed in Christ, as well as the civilized.
Tertullian explained that Christians filled the Roman empire:
“We are but lately sprung up, and we already fill whatever acknowledges your power, the cities, the isles, the fortresses, the towns, and the assemblies of the people.”
Not one year of history can be found in which the world has lacked a believer in Jesus.
The blood of the martyrs was poured out for 300 years after Christ’s death, under 10 Roman persecutions.
The gospel was no sudden invention of man either.
Christ’s death had been promised for centuries.
God comforted Adam & Eve with the promise that Eve's seed Christ would crush Satan (Genesis 3.15).
God spoke through Daniel that Christ would die around the year we now know as 33 A.D. (Daniel 9.24-27)
God spoke through Isaiah that Christ would die to atone for the sins of his people, and yet live (Isaiah 53); and be born of a virgin (Isaiah 7.14).
God spoke through his prophets, that Christ would be pierced (Zechariah 12.10) in his hands and feet (Psalm 22.16).
God spoke through Hosea that Christ would rise again on the third day (Hosea 6.2)
God spoke through David, that Christ was God himself (Psalm 45.6-7, 110.1).
God spoke through David of the body prepared for Christ in his incarnation (Ps. 40).
Ancient men believed the promise of Christ’s coming, and when he came, he did all that God said he would do.
This is all in the Bible.
Read it.
Jesus died in the place of sinners.
All who repent of their sins and believe in him will not perish in hell, but have everlasting life in heaven with God forever.
Today is the day to read the gospels.
Today is the day to know the truth, & the truth shall set you free.
Melanie Mansfield retweeted
With everything that’s going on, can we put our elbows on the dinner table now?
Melanie Mansfield retweeted
We’re seeing the harvest of a church discipled more by influencers than intercessors, celebrities than Christ, political pundits than prophets, YouTube theologians than the Scripture.
Our catechism has been written by social media, our formation by cable news—rather than Jesus.
Melanie Mansfield retweeted
It can be helpful when a sermon speaks into what’s happening in our country, as long as it’s grounded in the biblical text and not just the pastor’s personal opinion.
At the same time, we should be careful to not demand pastors to do this. Faithfulness to the Word must remain their first calling.
Melanie Mansfield retweeted
Flashback: I feel sorry for the pastor who knows that to keep his congregation, he has to keep coming up with bigger and more shocking ideas. He knows that as soon as the fun stops or the place down the street offers something better, the seats will empty, the budget will decline, the church will collapse.
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Melanie Mansfield retweeted
“For if we deliberately go on sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins” (Heb 10:26).
John Owen explains that this is the sin of apostasy, conscious and permanent rejection of the gospel.
Apostasy is not
• suddenly giving in to temptation (like Peter denying Jesus)
• momentary hypocrisy
• seasons of sin or ignorance
Apostasy is
• willful and settled rejection of the gospel
• choosing and resting in a way of salvation other than the gospel
• openly renouncing the gospel and grace
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