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Yona 🕯️ Artist ⟡ Vgen Commissions Open!@yonasverseOct 13
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I made a post for artists how to stay away from getting involved with brokers, and this one will be about:
WHAT ARE BROKERS and why is it BAD TO COMMISSION them.
👥 WHAT ARE BROKERS?
- Basically from what I know, a broker is a 'middleman' between the artists, think of it like a 'manager' but they are usually horrible people.
- Most brokers heavily exploit the poor artists who are minors, forcing them to draw NSFW, pay them like $5-$20 when they get for example $200, hold their legal IDs and PayPal with changed passwords on VGen so that they are 100% of control with finances and if the artists were ever to complain or be late to work, the middleman would threaten to dox them online, ruin their reputation and strip away their income.
- The middleman is the one who promised and manipulated the artists, promised them good pay, and huge growth but it's a trap. The situation is so saddening, once you get out it's like you can never get out... They are in really vunarable place.
Real bussiness pay with their own banking account, never ask for yours.
That's the difference. While there might be legitimate brokers, it feels insanely rare in this shady broker situation.
⚠️ WHY YOU SHOULD AVOID COMMISSIONING THEM?
- From what I've noticed they usually offer really cheap and unrealistic prices for probably many hours of work/labor put. While it seems 'afordable' it's actually just exploitation.
- The brokers keep swarming us; independent artists who actually care, so I highly encourage to *support individuals* instead. You'd be actually paying to support someone rather than giving money to those horrible people who keep the money for themselves and treat their artists like machines instead of human beings that they are.
- On the side note, there are brokers who pretend to be individuals, so it's not all black and white. And I still don't understand why VGen only drops a broker label when it comes to light instead of banning them immediately for being shady. Legit bussiness wouldn't need to hide what they are.
(RT to spread awareness!)
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Is the guitar number of strings suspicious? Hard to tell if the JRU account used AI tracing here
Credit to @kimmi_art
aaaaaa >w< my client really loves my artstyle &&&
look at all the little details i added to her guitar :3
comms for @Zari_ttv •⩊•
#Vtuber #illustration #Vgencommissionㅤ
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Dibujo de estudio JRUHUB btw... Cada vez es más evidente no saben de arte y que hacen calco de IA.
Imagen completa en comentarios 💋
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Im gonna speak an uncomfortable truth about brokers and why they are so successful on vgen. Its the Clientèle, aka mostly Vtubers.
Most clients these days do not want to pay individual artists rates and prices and resort to the cheapest option available, which is brokers. The success of brokers (including jruhub) is due to the fact that the demand for cheap and fast art is big. Vtubing is expensive and i know not everyone can afford art but by going to brokers and buying cheap art, you fuel the system.
Most ppl dont want to admit that they take part in this tho or try to talk themselves out of it with excuses , cuz admitting you fuel this, means admitting that you take part in artist exploitations. Ppl prefer to keep their vest clean of it all.
I must Admit, i accidently commissioned a broker account recently for a small piece, but i didnt know it was a broker. They got the broker label after i already paied for the commission, so it was my fault for not checking more thoroughly. Nonetheless , i also invested into a broker, may it be by accident or not, i added to the suffering of another artist and feel bad about it.
This is why i want ppl to be More aware of what brokers are and what it means to get commissions from them. Just cuz they are cheap doesnt mean it doesnt come with the suffering of someone.
I need vtubers especially to be more mindful of how they spend their money. If you cant afford an individual artist, then save up until you can; just like anyone else does. Dont fund artist exploitation and then try to wash your hands clean.
Excuses like „im poor“ „the economy is rough“ or „artists are to expensive“ don’t slide with me. Im the poorest mf on this planet and even i manage to save up for 1 or 2 Commissions a year. Yes its not much but it feels more rewarding and worth it. Being poor is no excuse to exploiting artists.
If we want to fight brokers, we must start at the behavior of each individual buyer. If theres no demand theres no supply. Consumerism and capitalism are that simple.
I know the truth hurts but sometimes you need to swallow it to make progress
The state that VGen is in is sad to see. As an artist that has been on the platform since beta batch 3. The Broker problem is a HUGE issue. This is just searching for a banner comm. Solo artists are being flooded out, people are being ripped off, and many of these brokers are extremely unethical. It shouldn't have even gotten to this point, but it has and it needs to be addressed ASAP.
So what Vtuber model artist makes the mistake and draws the eyes seperatey so no symmerty. What artist mistakes an American Flag boxer Pin for a Latch on suspenders and what Artist mistakes an Ahoge for a round shaped Metal piece.@_VGen_
Just a few to mention
#vgen
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I am getting increasingly concerned with the number of new broker accounts appearing on vgen quite quickly and the speed at which they are able to distribute codes to one another.
There has to be a way to slow this down
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Hey muties
If u have a commissions.gg please link ur profile below so I can follow yall!
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Just a heads up I might consider moving to a different website for commissions soon.
Why: Multiple reasons, my main ones being VGen is hard to be seen on, and I just don’t use it enough..
Also important, I’m hearing VGen is allowing brokers that use AI artists. (Basically a middleman connecting you to an AI Artist)
And I am strictly against supporting something with AI Art Attached to it.
Support Human Creativity, Not Machine Slop.
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Due to recent stuff coming out about vgen and stuff I might move to commissions.gg/trixyravyn again so if u want to follow feel free!
I will keep my vgen for a bit now tho till I finish my comms and stuff and leave it open for the rest of this month
I wish to not support a website that continues to allow ai on their platform knowingly
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I will never understand art giveaways where the artist will message multiple people.
Getting their hopes up of possibly being the winner, when it’s just a water cooler of a convo just to somehow lead into a forced interaction about getting a comm from them at a “discounted” price?
Only because these people didn’t win this so called artist is preying on your hopes and dreams on the probability you did..
It’s fucked up and I’ve had it happen to me and others.
It needs to stop.
This is why I don’t enter anymore YCH raffles or art raffles.
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Hey so I see they never actually got rid of the ai I see! just hid it a bit better! @shylilytwitch I want to let you know that this "artist" and this "art" used gen ai! No hate btw I just want to spread information! I fell for it too! #fuckAI
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Ermmm are yall too blind to notice this is clearly AI ???
THE EYES DONT EVEN MATCH
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my experience with @AureliaArt_.
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I don’t understand how does those jruhub brokers on vgen get more commissions than other actual fellow artists…
Do they have crazy marketing or some-kind of strategy to attract clients like a magnet or something? 。°(°¯᷄◠¯᷅°)°。
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Haha lol they deleted all the posts about it and blocked me! This was the only full image I have saved. I was gonna make my own version (use as a reference) because I just got gamble with friends. They might be a broker account anyway. I think this was their first run in with ai.
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We believe this artwork has heavily referenced our YCH artwork.
Please help us report this issue 😭
Thank you so much to everyone who let us know and helped us report it
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Hii, @NeviraStudio ghosting clients is kinda messed up while accepting other comms.
You really are making yourself look bad by not communicating with clients.
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