Don't want to sell or refi without them moving with me anyway. So I'm not worried about the release

The market is not in straight liquidation mode. Just a bad market. Still money on the sidelines looking for some return and believes that the future is better than the current. Otherwise it might have been in the 45 or less area.

@grok can you list wealth in America from top 1%, 5%, 10%, 25%, 50%

Too slow for them. They seek instant gratification.

Just need to get more people actually doing things.

Does walking count? Or are they doing the Chinese facial recognition stuff now?

Deals are where the equity is won on both sides.

I'm driving a Jeep I got as a down payment on a trailer that I ownerr financed. I'm ready for a new car, I need to make deals to do that. Not buy with cash at retail.

Easy peasy then. Title insurance and you are done.

It was real for Mr 2012 that just cashed in.

After watching how resilient Russia has been I don't think there's any chance China, the usa, or any other large economy collapses entirely. They can degrade over time. But that's about all you'll see.

They didn't let them know that the stock market was up. Tell them to look at their 401k.

Get as many of them to agree to a price as you can. They can all be different prices as long as the prices are good. Have them sign a deed to you for their portion with a note back for that price to each person to be paid when the property is 100% in your possession. As you gain percentages of ownership your negotiating power with the people that are left increases. However you have nothing out of pocket until the end.

We only talk about tax basis not cost basis. Who cares what your cost basis is? The higher the better.

Can record a security instrument also.

Yes both.

They never had control of the long end. They couldn't get control of the long end if they wanted to. And they know that. They can influence the front and somewhat the middle.

Go back in time 20 years. Buy an option on someone's house at market price for 30 years. Come back to now. Sell the option for $100k or more.