NotebookLM is quite powerful and worth playing with notebooklm.google/ It is a bit of a re-imagination of the UIUX of working with LLMs organized around a collection of sources you upload and then refer to with queries, seeing results alongside and with citations. But the current most new/impressive feature (that is surprisingly hidden almost as an afterthought) is the ability to generate a 2-person podcast episode based on any content you upload. For example someone took my "bitcoin from scratch" post from a long time ago: karpathy.github.io/2021/06/2… and converted it to podcast, quite impressive: notebooklm.google.com/notebo… You can podcastify *anything*. I give it train_gpt2.c (C code that trains GPT-2): github.com/karpathy/llm.c/bl… and made a podcast about that: notebooklm.google.com/notebo… I don't know if I'd exactly agree with the framing of the conversation and the emphasis or the descriptions of layernorm and matmul etc but there's hints of greatness here and in any case it's highly entertaining. Imo LLM capability (IQ, but also memory (context length), multimodal, etc.) is getting way ahead of the UIUX of packaging it into products. Think Code Interpreter, Claude Artifacts, Cursor/Replit, NotebookLM, etc. I expect (and look forward to) a lot more and different paradigms of interaction than just chat. That's what I think is ultimately so compelling about the 2-person podcast format as a UIUX exploration. It lifts two major "barriers to enjoyment" of LLMs. 1 Chat is hard. You don't know what to say or ask. In the 2-person podcast format, the question asking is also delegated to an AI so you get a lot more chill experience instead of being a synchronous constraint in the generating process. 2 Reading is hard and it's much easier to just lean back and listen.

This was a cool listen. I think Cloud+AI is increasingly making the @levelsio -style model of a scrappy solo serial micro-entrepreneur viable, allowing one person to spin up and run a number of companies that generate income, possibly well into billion-dollar valuations.