research @openai

Compute Capital, California
Joined August 2013
Replying to @russelljkaplan
Evan, Parker, and David are building a backend and database that is entirely LLM-powered. “Who needs Postgres?” 1KB of storage!
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Excited to finally share ChatGPT for Word!
Procrastination has met its match. ChatGPT is now in Word. You can add ChatGPT to Microsoft Word to turn rough notes into first drafts, untangle tricky paragraphs, proofread, and get suggested edits—all without leaving your document. It can even spot formatting issues. Which means a few less things to fix later 🔍
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We Must Pace the Frontier: I’ve written a new essay on why the AI industry should slow down, with a three-part plan for doing so. Anthropic is unilaterally committing to the first of these steps. We’ll provide third-party evaluators with permanent, employee-level access to our systems, so that they can verify adherence to our safety measures, report on incidents, and assess models’ alignment during training. You can read the full post here: darioamodei.com/post/we-must…
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The world around you is designed in CAD. How well can AI build it? Introducing CADArena, benchmarking AI CAD generation across the tools engineers use Agents can now build accurate geometry, but struggle to create feature trees engineers can maintain and edit
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people are realizing astra + computer use is built for knowledge work youtube.com/watch?v=eofVsEW9… from @jasononfirms > The biggest thing about GPT-6 Astra is it is not a chat model. It's a computer use model. It is a model trained around tippy tapping on a keyboard and mousing around your desktop. That is the most interesting thing here, honestly, because an AI using your computer is the final frontier of useful AI for people who work in accounting firms. As much as I would like for the reality of being a public accountant to be like, oh, I use this app and this other app and they both have tremendous APIs and they talk with each other. And it's just these two apps that we use. I would love if that was the case. It is not. Being a public accountant is using 50 different stupid things and every time you add a new client, they've got some app that you haven't heard of that won't connect with anything else. And there's all these like industry-specific software solutions that are so dumb and so bad that what you end up being is just like the back office finance MacGyver. You're like, I'm okay, I'm gonna paperclip this thing over here. Gonna need a work paper for that every single month. That is the reality of being an accountant these days. We are human integrators because in many cases software integrators do not exist. Which makes the final frontier for where you are automating things your desktop. It's not as simple as just connecting app A to app B. Sometimes it is, and if it is, awesome. But we're not doing that work anymore. The work that is left is all the crap that we've got to hustle from our desktop, which makes an AI that can work your desktop, at least in the short term, the only thing that it feels like could truly automate just about everything that we do.
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Today, after 7 years in stealth, I, @emeskey and our co-founders are proud to announce @keplercompute. The world is much better off when we give power & intelligence to the people. When everyone can become their highest selves by pairing their human creativity with the exponentially rising intelligence from our magnificent computers. Our goal is to unlock the power of frontier intelligence for everyone by pushing memory and logic chip manufacturing to the limits of physics. To achieve this, we will move the world from one of compute scarcity to abundance where we can make orders of magnitude more chips per dollar and can lower datacenter energies to the limits of physics. We will use physics to ensure we have enough chips and that we can power them on. Why is compute scarce? Today's dominant approach - shrinking transistors with EUV - has run into $20B-$40B fabs that take years to build. Sized against that risk, the industry (quite rationally!) grows capex much slower than AI demand that can grow 10x in a year. In the current system, scarcity is built in. A different way is possible. We founded Kepler on the following beliefs: 1. It is possible to build leadership chips without a dependence on EUV 2. It is possible to achieve multiple orders of magnitude more intelligence per watt by evolving chips 2D Silicon to 3D Beyond silicon 3. It is possible to get much closer to the physical limits of computing than we are today while staying within mainstream digital computing Memory is the biggest binding constraint on AI compute and so we start with a new frontier of AI memory- approaching the bandwidth per watt of SRAM, going up to 10x beyond the capacity of HBM. We use 3D and materials innovations that allow for leapfrogging leading nodes while requiring no EUV lithography and allowing us use fabs that already exist. Our team co-led one of the industry's first 3D chip-stacking technologies, has led and scaled seven generations of DRAM and multiple logic designs into billions of chips. We built the world's first commercial physical synthesis tool and techniques at the heart of the logic design industry and solved long standing challenges in ferroelectrics, invented beyond CMOS logic devices. We would love to work with you to reinvent chip manufacturing here in America. We have raised $468m, built our own fab and our AI memories sample this year and ramp to production next year. We are allocated for 2027 and will be scaling in America by 2028. We are open for business, please get in touch to work together. We are also growing the group of Keplerians and would love to work with you. Learn More @ Kepler: keplercompute.com/ Read our story in @WIRED: wired.com/story/a-new-dollar…
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The plot doesn’t do justice to how this year has felt as a 90th percentile user of agents for my research Last year I hardly used AI, minimal codex use, no tab complete, no cursor. Occasionally I’d copy paste a file into chatgpt asking it to find bugs Then 5.2 hit in December, i assumed it was a meh incremental capability jump, so didn’t really try it for the first few weeks but when i did i was blown away. It felt like that first time you use chatgpt Around February I realized the fastest way to get anything done was to both ask codex to do it, and also in parallel do it myself, racing codex to see who could go faster. Sometimes I’d win, sometimes I’d lose Now it’s September and i often go days w/o reading code. My laptop fan is almost always at full speed from the agents plugging away at their tasks i don’t even try to debug stuff anymore, i just tell Astra “plz fix”
Today we're releasing data on models accelerating research at OpenAI. Recursive self-improvement could be the most important contributor to AI capabilities over the next few years, but by default it will only be seen inside a few frontier AI labs. Being transparent is more urgent than ever, so we can inform the public discussion on whether and how to pace model development. I ask other AI companies to do the same. openai.com/index/research-ac…
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All of the demos in this video were recorded in real-time with Astra ⭐️ It’s been so much fun making our models faster and safer at CUA with @BrookeaJoseph @fjord41 @magusnn @msieb1 @yihengxu_ @yilongqin @.alz @realtsmc @tejalpatwardhan @mckbrando @AriX and so many others!
This is GPT-6 Astra. Anything you can do on a computer, Astra can do for you. Fast.
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We’re living in the Codex Century
GPT-5.6 sol post-trained luna!
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A Stargate for Data Labs are on a trajectory towards >$100B/year of data spend by 2030. As we begin the trillion-dollar compute project, we need to think about the equivalent civilizational-scale effort for the other core ingredient: data. At the foundation of the scaling revolution is a simple empirical law: deep neural networks improve smoothly, near magically, as you scale two things in proportion — (1) the size of the model and (2) the amount of data you train on. And despite the scaling laws being brutally diminishing, we’ve successfully bitten the bullet of logarithmic scaling with exponentially larger clusters and datasets, and received incredible new capabilities in return. But this exponential scaling is bound to hit some limits. Oddly enough, compute has compounded fairly smoothly without limit, with trillions flowing into hypercluster buildout. Instead, we’re starting to hit the limits of an exponential demand for data. Gone are the days of being purely in the compute-limited regime, where we had effectively infinite internet data but never enough GPUs, we’re now entering a data-limited regime. Luckily, this limitation is coinciding with staggering improvements in AI capabilities. Incredibly, we seem to have a real line of sight towards automating a majority of knowledge work with the methods we have today. RL + pretraining, and the data for each, will be generally sufficient to achieve most economically valuable tasks, given some minimal algorithmic progress and continued compute scaling. In a data-limited world, economic progress & scientific acceleration will be directly bottlenecked by our coverage in each domain. We need to see data collection as imperative, deserving the same civilizational ambition we’ve given compute. The internet as a one-time subsidy It’s underrated how much all progress in AI owes everything to the blessing of the internet, this one-time civilizational subsidy to deep learning, decades of unintentional accumulation of a perfect dataset: every book, blog post, image, video, paper, discussion, etc. all digitized and freely available. Without the internet, we’d likely see comparably minimal progress in AI today, and in fact, if you notice where systems currently underperform, it’s almost always a domain where web coverage is limited and data is private, expensive, non-digitized, or non-existent. But we’re running out of it. There are only about 300 trillion tokens of useful public human text, and the internet doesn’t produce nearly enough new high-quality data to match what scaling demands — we’re soon to hit the limits of public data for pretraining. And though the advent of RL bought us reprieve — chain-of-thought RL needed a new form of untapped data, gradable math & coding tasks, also available online — we’re quickly running dry of hard tasks for RL as well. Why do we need so much data anyways? Humans learn comparably in far less time, needing just one textbook where language models might need the equivalent of hundreds to learn a new topic. It’s possible we discover methods that are massively more data efficient — synthetic data, data efficient architectures, other exotic algorithms — but fundamental progress is slow and highly unpredictable, and the recipe we have just works today. And, while I’m wary of getting too deep here, even arbitrary data efficiency can’t replace data that just doesn’t exist in the first place. There’s a massive amount of missing information on the web: the dark matter of the internet — tacit knowledge, undocumented processes, etc. — most of which was never published and lives only inside organizations, the physical world, or just in people’s heads. I’ll leave it here and say, for reasons far longer than I can fit in this post [1], it’s best to operate on the assumption that our insatiable desire for data will continue as it has for the last decade. There will be >$100B/year in data spend by 2030 We’re not screwed yet, of course. Only a fraction of useful data in the world is on the public internet, the rest is stored inside private datasets, corporations, personal archives, universities, governments, and otherwise. Labs can and will continue to license these private datasets, or create them from scratch, like Anthropic’s book scanning project. And we’ll increasingly task human experts to manufacture new high-quality data, with a large fraction of hard RL training tasks already being sourced this way. But collecting this data, unlike before, will be expensive. As the free internet dries up and demand for data rises, we should see labs investing equally in data as compute, likely spending a significant fraction of their compute budgets on data. As we see trillions spent on compute, we should also expect hundreds of billions spent on data (human data & collection budgets), given their equivalent importance. And, notably, data spend is already tracking this way: total data spend across vendors, not counting internal lab efforts, is already roughly $7 billion per year. It’s quite reasonable we’ll see >10x by 2030. Data is the moat Data becoming increasingly private will also majorly shift the competitive landscape. While compute is a commodity — everyone buys the same chips and builds the same clusters — data really isn’t. The big reason why frontier models have felt eerily similar to one another, until now, is they were trained on substantially the same internet (pretraining data variability across labs seems pretty low). As labs diverge onto more exclusive, manually collected corpora, I think models will begin to increasingly diverge. OpenAI pulling ahead in mathematics and Anthropic in cybersecurity isn’t an accident. I really think laser-focused collection of high-quality midtraining tokens, custom RL tasks, environments, with dedicated research effort, has driven much of the visible progress in the last year. James Betker has an excellent blog about “the ‘it’ in a model is the dataset”: model architecture and compute buy you efficiency and order-of-magnitude performance, but ultimately, models, of any architecture, are such incredible approximators of their dataset that the core meat of a model boils down to just that, nothing else. Data is a major moat. AGI long, ASI short As I’ve tweeted before, I’m confident that, despite the narrative, the data labeling industry will continue to fuel great businesses and be an excellent AGI long, ASI short. The argument is just: By the time the AGI labs no longer need data, it’s probably over for everything else too [2]. In this frame, the last companies left should be the data companies, as the last speck of economically relevant data is sucked in. And these companies are already among some of the fastest-growing companies in history: Mercor, founded three years ago, is rumored to be doing $2 billion in revenue with something like a few million expert labelers under contract. While these businesses are very non-stationary, what type of data is needed shifts constantly, I don’t think that diminishes their value. The long-tail of the economy is long, and the value isn’t diminishing as you extend farther into more obscure information: as models get more capable, the value of the marginal dataset goes up, not down. Automating a full job means covering its full distribution of tasks, tools, edge-cases, and long-horizon loops. There’s some O-ring logic to it: a dataset that buys a 1% bump can justify a previously unjustifiable collection cost when it’s the difference between a system that does 99% of a job and one that does all of it [3]. The competitive dynamics of the data industry are still evolving but as demand for data is increasingly niche, ultra high-quality, expert-generated, I think we’ll see real consolidation. Again, contra-narrative, we’ll probably see true competitive differentiation built on brand, quality control of data (which, from personal experience, can vary massively), as well as in network effects from the talent networks themselves over time. We’ve already seen rapidly shifting data type demand work in favor of incumbents, benefiting those with early knowledge of where the market is headed. The binding constraint It’s truly remarkable that we seem to have the recipe — pretraining + RL — to absorb most economically valuable work, despite being far from a lot of what we expected from “AGI”. The same way chess engines revealed we never needed general intelligence to solve chess, as we originally thought, we’ll soon realize that software, mathematics, and the vast majority of the economy (including physical, just running ~3 years behind!) are the same. If recursive self-improvement or some other algorithmic breakthrough arrives, that’s wonderful, but we really don’t have to wait for it. The binding constraint between here and an automated economy isn’t that, it’s data coverage: every app, workflow, edge case, process, etc. sitting in private stores or someone’s head. Ultimately, while we make tremendous strides in more efficient model architectures, and clusters like Stargate equip us with zettaflop-scale compute, we really aren’t making rapid progress collecting the data we lack. We’ll soon live in a world where we have the methods & compute to accelerate scientific progress or economic growth, but not the data. And we’re already there today: frontier models would surely be as good at accounting/many medical tasks/legal advice as they are at software engineering if we only had the same pretraining & RL coverage as we did for code. I really want to drill this in: The speed at which we automate the economy is going to be directly rate-limited by our ability to collect data about it. Worth noting that under this assumption, with data as defensible and directly proportional to economic & scientific progress, data should also be considered a national strategic asset like compute. Imagine what we’d do in a world where we had a Manhattan Project-effort for AI and needed to mobilize data collection as a limiting factor. We should be concerned about China, with greater state capacity and authoritarian economic control, being capable of mobilizing data collection at national scale, potentially compounding their economy and scientific output faster than us down the line. A Stargate for data I’m leaving my complete ideas for a future post, as this one is already far too long, so I’d really like to pose the question here. Stargate exists because we organized trillions of dollars, international strategy, gigawatts around compute as a fundamental ingredient. What would equivalent ambition look like for data? Obviously, scaling data collection, a heterogeneous mass of information across the economy, isn’t going to be as clear as scaling compute, as a homogenous infrastructural effort. A core division will be first, coverage — all uncaptured knowledge sitting across the economy/science/physical world and all that simply isn’t recorded — and, secondly, sheer volume in the domains we already train on: more hard math tasks, more high-quality web text, way more coding data, more legal drafts, etc. I have a post coming soon which breaks down my proposals. There’s a lot of room for creativity. Quickly, we’ll probably want to start with a deep census of what we have and what we’re missing, predict what the 2030 model will still be bad at and work backward to what we should be collecting today. You can probably license a large amount, leveraging high lab valuations to buy datasets or companies altogether. There’s an adversarial nature to a lot of this collection with firms, so there’s lots of engineering to do this correctly. We should go convince important companies to turn off deletion policies, even if we’re not buying from them yet. Data flywheels in consumer products will be massive. Confidential training, government legislation for grant-funded research, running companies at a loss for their data, etc. We’re headed towards hundreds of billions in expenditure, national prioritization, and major data limitation on the horizon. We have a great opportunity to think creatively about what a megaproject for data would look like: How do we, deliberately this time, construct the next internet’s worth of data? Footnotes: [1]: I’ll probably soon publish my much longer post explaining my position on data efficiency and why the value of this data is still pretty high in most worlds regardless of new algorithms. [2]: The “AGI freeroll” bet: heads you win, tails ASI flips the world upside down anyways. [3]: We already see a glint of validation of this point, given the data market is strongly tilting towards ultra-high-quality agentic data, rather than unskilled labeling — niche expert workflows, live environments, and evaluations requiring increasingly obscure talent & knowledge — yet shows increasing, not decreasing, revenues.
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Replying to @nebgetaneh
Wait til you see where it's going next 👀
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2/ Why does this matter? First, that we are here less than a year after IMO gold is a surprise to me. As bullish as I’ve been on AI math, I thought it would have taken longer to go from the 1.5 hour horizon of IMO proofs to the hundreds of hours needed for breakthrough research.
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Codex now works directly in Chrome on macOS and Windows. It’s even better at working with apps and sites in Chrome, and now works in parallel across tabs in the background without taking over your browser. To get started, install the Chrome plugin in the Codex app.
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Wrote this in February as a half-serious toned but information theoretically sound outlook on why quantum computers are so good at breaking crypto. Coincidentally, big cos are now making me right. Recent work from Deepmind and NVIDIA only accelerates this seunomonije.com/?work=ai-qua…
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A full-scale US Waymo rollout would cost ~700 full-time jobs in the funeral care industry (by saving around 35 thousand young American lives per year). Will no one think of (some of) the morticians!
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not enough people are emotionally prepared for if it’s not a bubble
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you can simply choose to have the mandate of heaven
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A lot of folks talk about "escaping the permanent underclass". If AGI pans out, the future class divide won't be based on wealth, but on cognitive agency. There will be a "focus class" (those who control their attention and actually do things) and a "slop class" (those whose reward loops are fully RL-managed by AI)
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Imagine next year a SWEs entire job could be reading synthetic newspapers like this all day
friend is in the stage of claude psychosis where he asks claude to send him newspapers about what claude is doing for him
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finally happening
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they’re building insane Industrial x AI tech btw
Came to sf for spring break, and we ended up winning the YC × Deepmind hackathon! So excited to continue building :)
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