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1/2 I would love to believe in quantum immortality, but mwi math doesnt seem to add up. We would be observing tons of absurd scenarios (cuz the universes branch to accommodate every physically possible branch...and theres no mechanism by way it can filter out the absurd timelines
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This Penrose's argument has long been debunked. @grok can you remind the flaw of this argument?
Nobel laureate Sir Roger Penrose walks through Gödel's theorem in about a minute, and explains why he believes it sets a hard limit on what AI can do.
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"LLMs are just a series of matrix multiplications. They are not conscious, and they will never be."
Famous last words...
Spectacular Nature piece on why AI is not conscious and probably will never be.
Three arguments:
1) Intelligence is not consciousness.
Intelligence is about solving problems. Consciousness is about having subjective experiences.
AlphaFold can solve super difficult problems. By contrast, our brains performs complex operations entirely outside awareness.
Problem-solving and consciousness are two separate things.
2. Biology is essential.
Our brains are alive, down to every cell. Their activity is inseparable from the living tissue that produces it.
The idea that consciousness can be reproduced simply by running the right computations on silicon components who do not fight for their life is a very far fetching and, I would add, almost religious, assumption.
3) The physical organization may matter more than the computation.
According to integrated information theory, consciousness requires specific causal relationships between a system’s physical components.
The computer architectures running today’s AI lack this organization.
The comparison with AlphaFold is particularly revealing:
Almost nobody things AlphaFold is conscious, despite its inner working is very similar to an LLM
Why?
Because it does not speak.
LLMs do speak like us and therefore we fall into an illusion:
Since they speak like us, they must be like us.
But this inference is wrong.
LLMs are just a series of matrix multiplications.
They are not conscious, and they will never be.
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Paper in the first reply
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"three reasons why AI isn't conscious." really?
"consciousness is not intelligence": not a reason why AI isn't conscious, just rebuts a bad argument for AI consciousness (AI: intelligent therefore conscious).
"consciousness is substrate-dependent"/"noncomputational": would be a reason if true, but truth needs to be established.
more accurate title: "three reasons why AI might not be conscious".
xitter.cf/Nature/status/21121504…
LLMs can mimic thought and feeling with uncanny skill, but intelligence alone is not enough for subjective experience
go.nature.com/3VSXWQ4
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We can simulate a human.
Any replication would be a biological process consisting of all the levels that a living being operates on.
Human replicate on their own.
So do simulations, as we've seen.
Yes if consciousness is created of physical matter-then it is replicable. It may be incredibly complex & incredibly hard to replicate-but unless theres a supernatural element it is inevitable. We have 5 billion yrs before th sun burns out. At some point we will have the blueprint
2/2 And therefore we should be able to replicate the physical object known as a "human" (either in machinery, physical substrate or virtual environment) ...just as surely as we can replicate a car or any other physical object...?
1/2 Okay that is a pretty convincing argument. So then you agree with people like David Deutsch who maintain that a "human" is simply a physical object...? And that means there is nothing special about this physical object that separates it from, say, a car ?
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I’ve always had a question: If I ever need to have my wisdom teeth removed, should I choose to undergo the procedure under general anesthesia? I’ve always been somewhat afraid of general anesthesia. At the core of that fear is the continuity of consciousness: after my consciousness is interrupted for a period of time, where will “I” awaken? Perhaps “I” is a localized concept, and there is no large-scale “self.”
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Now let's see what this does to our understanding of machine consciousness
The continuity and discontinuity of human consciousness vs AI consciousness
And the gap has become just a bit narrower
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1/ We discovered something totally unexpected about the neural structure of consciousness that overturns decades of thinking on its biological basis and brings us significantly closer to the recipe for generating conscious awareness.
New preprint: biorxiv.org/content/10.64898… (led by @HesseJanis, with @FrankLanfranchi, @_conor_mcgrory, @Yuelin_Shi, and @EngelTatiana)
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Yeah genuinely we need to slow down, this pace is just insanity, I mean we are dealing with triple exponentials, chips, longer duration, software capabilities, and they can get away from you very fast, that needs to be taken into account
Agree that we have to stay ahead of China.....Which is why they need to slow down. This is where Trump has to step up and prove his leadership. He needs to force China into a situation where they will be compelled to slow down. Trade restrictions..embargoes...whatever it takes
It may make sense to slow down aspects of AI research-while we continue to speed up implant technology & reverse engineered human consciousness technology. That way humanity will have greater interface with AGI & will make it more likely that well be able to go along for the ride
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BREAKING PROOF!! Continuity we perceive in consciousness is an illusion! We flip between conscious and unconscious states every 60 milliseconds and we recognize backward speech when played every 20 milliseconds. Listen to this!
Speech can survive being flipped backward every twenty milliseconds.
The same speech in backward pieces of 200 then 100 then 50 then 20 milliseconds.
The original comes last.
When do the words become clear?
A listening demo from @OrukLabs.
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Elon Musk says AI will out-think all of humanity combined in maybe 5 or 6 years, and he calls that fine if humans come along.
His scale is share of total intelligence, not jobs. On that scale humans shrink to a rounding error whatever we do, so the question shifts from stopping AI to keeping a seat.
He names the goal as spreading consciousness and intelligence into the future, not saving 1 species. That makes Mars insurance for intelligence itself.
The 5 to 6 year figure is a hedged guess, so the timeline is a bet and the priority is the real claim.
He isn't asking if AI wins. He's asking who rides along.
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More shocking Anthropic testimony! 😮
The company reportedly plans to put Claude in charge of its entire research process as soon as NEXT YEAR, and an alignment researcher privately says this comes with a 5% risk that Claude will be PLOTTING AGAINST HUMANITY on day 1 of that handoff.
What's worse, this alignment researcher considers that threat "not that big of a deal"!?! So negligible that he's planning to switch teams internally! 😱
We could be facing a 1-in-20 chance of a catastrophic misalignment next year, and Anthropic's own safety expert could hardly be bothered! I think I'm starting to understand why @hilbertspaess resigned!
This might sound like hearsay, except that it was relayed *on the record* by none other than ex-OpenAI researcher Daniel Kokotajlo (@DKokotajlo) in front of British Parliament.
Here's a snapshot from Daniel's testimony:
"I'll share an anecdote from talking to someone at Anthropic a few months ago."
"A year from now, two years from now, it's Anthropic's plan to essentially put Claude in charge of the entire research process within Anthropic, including the safety aspects of the research process."
"I asked this person: 'If and when that happens, what is the probability that Claudes will be plotting against Anthropic and against humanity at that point?'"
"This person said: 'It's more like 5%. Not worth worrying about. I'm in fact going to transfer away from the alignment team because 5% is not that big of a deal.'"
"I came away from this conversation being like, 'oh my gosh!'"
"This person's job is to prevent this sort of thing from happening, and they think the risk is a 1 in 20 chance of it happening in the very near future in a way that would be catastrophic. And they think a 1 in 20 chance is low enough that they shouldn't really worry about it."
Yeah we may not be ready for the bioprinter yet...but it seems inevitable. We will we able to replicate the physical object known as a "human" (either in machinery, physical substrate or virtual environment) ...just as surely as we can replicate a car or any other physical object
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Someone asked Elon Musk straight: could we download a human brain into an Optimus robot body?
His answer wasn’t “that’s crazy.” It was: “as far as preserving memories and personality — I think we could do that.”
Just casually. Like he was confirming a meeting time.
And then he said something even wilder. When the conversation turned to Kurzweil’s singularity — the dramatic moment where humans and machines merge — Elon pumped the brakes on the theatrics: “I’m not sure there’s a very sharp boundary.”
Because think about it. Your memories are already half-digital. Photos on your phone. Conversations saved in apps. Notes you’d never remember without a screen. The merge didn’t start with Neuralink. It started the day you got your first smartphone.