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注意:
一些把比特币
作为金融工具的机构
存入这些机构的比特币:
即使作为固定收益类产品
即使有官方免责声明
即使到期按利率结算收益
即使年化在2.5%–3.5%
即使按照比特币本位计息
即使不构成保证收益承诺
即使最终以到期实际结算为准
量子破解比特币的尾部风险
仍可能在三年后开始
彻底击穿其...
以太坊做了比特币不敢做的事情
V神 @VitalikButerin 说了 @adam3us 不敢说的真相!
为什么以太坊路线图转向“仅哈希”方案?
宁愿使用WOTS或SPHINCS+等哈希基签名,也避免格基的不安全,是因为AI可能会带来格基结构破解,
以太坊抗量子升级采用哈希是优先于格基方案的效率和安全性的,
好样的,小V继续深挖,继续努力哈希方案,继续ZK零知识证明 MPC 。。。。
#PowPQC #NIST #Multivariate #UOV #Raqcoin #Qday #BTC #ETH #Quantum
I don't recommend anyone scramble to move their funds to new wallets today. But we should take the risks to cryptography from AI-accelerated math seriously, and minimize our exposure to not just quantum-vulnerable cryptography, but also potentially AI-vulnerable cryptography.
The core new area of risk from this viewpoint is, unfortunately, ML-DSA / FHE / lattices.
(and it's also another reason, along with quantum, why ECDSA might fall even faster than expected, hence the "fresh address" recommendation)
So far most people have been in the mode of thinking "elliptic curves broken, hashes safe, lattices safe". But there is a good chance that the concrete security of lattices will take serious hits from the next two years of AI math.
The basic threat model is: factoring is something that naively takes 2^(n/2) time, but over decades smart people have found and optimized number field sieves, and degraded that to 2^O(n^(1/3)), which is why RSA keys and signatures need to be ~400 bytes (and not 64 bytes). What if there are skeletons in the closet like that, both for elliptic curves and lattices, that we are simply not smart enough to discover - but bots soon will be?
This is a major part of the reason why for the past year ethereum's lean roadmap has been going in the "hash-only" direction: no lattices, no ML-DSA, no Falcon, no lattice-based commitments inside ZK proofs, etc. Signatures in lean ethereum are all hash-based, either WOTS or SPHINCS-.
For signatures and proofs, we already know how to go hash-only. The bigger challenge is for *public-key encryption* - and this goes far beyond blockchains. Secure communication, anonymizing protocols, lots of things need public-key encryption.
And unfortunately there are long-standing mathematical theorems showing why public-key encryption cannot be done with hashes alone. You have to have some kind of trapdoor object that has at least one form of usable "structure" - either group theory (incl. isogenies) or lattices or code-based or potentially in the future even more newfangled and spooky things (local mixing?). But for anything that has structure, you should assume that AI will make at least some progress in breaking that structure. Here, one reasonable inference is that if you want to make something plausibly long-term secure, multiply the key sizes by 10.
To me that's a very plausible world and something not at all extreme to predict. If AI will bring us 50 years of math in 2 years, then that 50 years of math may very plausibly include a "naive factoring -> GNFS" level of improvement to our ability to break lattices. In that world, lattices will still exist, but they will have to be significantly bigger to guarantee the same level of safety.
And at those new larger sizes, hash-based constructions will beat lattice-based constructions on concrete efficiency in every use case where hash-based constructions are possible at all.
Theoretically, of course it's possible that hashes are broken too (eg. P = NP would imply that). But I think P = NP is very unlikely. And intuitively, it's much more likely that a mathematical object has exactly no exploitable structure (like hashes are intended to), than that a mathematical object has exactly ~3 forms of exploitable structure (for elliptic curves: associativity, Schoof, pairings) and not some secret fourth form of structure we have not yet discovered that greatly degrades its security (for elliptic curves, ECDLP and pairing security). Similar for LWE, SVP, RLWE and the zoo of lattice problems.
For this reason, we do not yet see any reason to worry and start padding the byte size of hashes (if we start to worry more, we would pad the round count first before doing anything to the byte size).
Concrete TLDR, my own personal views:
* Hash-based > lattice-based, in those situations where hash-based is possible at all
* For anything lattice-based, be much more paranoid on param sizes. Remember that blockchains are only a small portion of the cryptography story; this point goes far beyond blockchains and applies to eg. access to websites, secure messaging, Tor / VPNs ...
* For privacy protocols, strongly favor NOT putting encrypted notes onchain. Instead, send them offchain through some third-party mechanism.
* If it's not difficult for you, keeping your funds in addresses which have not yet been used to make a transaction is a good idea. If it's easy for you, do it. **But be careful about migrations; I personally have lost more money in botched migrations than I have lost in all hacks combined**.
* For multisig wallets, doing confirmations offchain is better than onchain, because this way the signatures of signer wallets do not get exposed to the public, so if ECDSA falls to AI much faster than expected, at least the multisig "gracefully degrades" to a 1-of-1 where the 1 is whoever was gathering the signatures - a much better place to be than "anyone can take the money"
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立马行动转移到抗量子算法
Today I call upon the blockchain industry to calmly begin planning for "bunker mode". My personal recommendation is to set in motion a controlled mass migration of assets to fresh addresses, i.e. addresses whose pubkeys remain hidden behind a hash.
Holders, starting with large and sophisticated ones, should consider moving the bulk of their funds to addresses that have never signed a transaction. And when they do sign one, they should also move remaining funds to a new address (possibly generated from the same seed phrase).
Don't rush. While I believe there is cause for action a rushed migration would do more harm than good. Don't panic either. Moving assets to protected addresses is a simple, preventative step which does not require new cryptography or new wallets.
IMO it is now reasonable to brace for the possibility that ECDSA breaks before qday, in the worst case in months not years. By "break" I mean fast private key recovery (e.g. in one week) on available hardware (e.g. a large GPU cluster).
Recent days have been humbling for human mathematical intuition. Long-held, unquestioned hypotheses have fallen. This includes the n log(n) bound for integer multiplication and the 3SUM conjecture. In hindsight, May's unexpected disproof of the Erdős unit distance conjecture was our warning shot.
Yesterday's OpenAI drop made it clear that mathematical superintelligence is upon us. They say there are weeks where decades happen. We are about to live through weeks where centuries of mathematical progress happen. Could our magic 64-byte ECDSA signatures be too good to be true? Was it just security through obscurity all this time?
Elliptic curves feel especially vulnerable to superintelligence. Curves carry rich structure, with room for fancy tricks like Schoof, Frobenius, pairings. (By contrast, hashes are designed to minimise algebraic structure.)
Separately, as Ewin Tang can attest, an efficient quantum algorithm sometimes foreshadows an efficient classical one. We should be open to the possibility of a classical counterpart to Shor that breaks elliptic curves and RSA at once.
Also noteworthy is the striking under-representation of cryptographic breakthroughs among the 722 mathematical results OpenAI published. I've witnessed first-hand the US government censoring academic quantum cryptanalysis results. Backroom interventionism is my base case.
I urge large, sophisticated actors to lead by example. Project11's "risq list" (bitcoin-risq-list.projecteleven[.]com) is a great tracker of exposed BTC pubkeys. Binance, Bitbank, Robinhood, Bitfinex, and Tether have an opportunity to harden their cold storage. Next month I'll address institutions in London in a live Q&A (forum.ethereuminstitutional[.]org/london-2026).
Again, please do not rush. Wallets holding under 50 BTC enjoy partial cover from "Satoshi's shield", i.e. his 20K exposed addresses that hold 50 BTC each. Load-bearing signers like oracles and L2 security councils should consider rotating ECDSA pubkeys with every signed message and/or multi-signing with a hash-based schemes like SPHINCS.
Exiting bunker mode safely will require post-AI cryptography. My inclination is to go all-in on hash-based cryptography and avoid structured mathematical assumptions entirely, whether from curves, lattices, or isogenies. A single battle-tested hash (e.g. from the SHA or BLAKE families) yields plausible post-AI security.
The Ethereum roadmap on strawmap[.]org fully embraces hash-based cryptography with end-to-end formal verification as a response to the quantum threat. Those timelines must now be revisited and accelerated in light of mathematical superintelligence. I'll be pushing for maximum defensive acceleration.
Raqcoin retweeted
"I don't trust cryptography except the one that records my stock holdings in the broker database.
Zero chance AI will attack it."
Move your wealth off ECC to PQC and you significantly increase your chances to make it through, whatever it is that you hold.
Honestly, I sold most of my spot crypto and offboarded today. It's just not worth the headache.
I don't want to check every single headline about AI math and cryptography research wondering if I'm about to get rugged. I don't want to wonder if every ancient BTC address making a transfer is ECDSA being cracked.
I had already refocused most of my time and energy on equities at this point, and Justin Drake's post just killed the rest of my desire to hold crypto. This isn't impulsive, I read hours of counterarguments.
1. People say this is incredibly unlikely. I just don't trust any human to predict the capability ceiling of superhuman mathematical AI. Have seen people be wrong about AI capability ceiling over and over.
2. What if I miss the next great bull cycle? Honestly, that's fine, there's plenty of other assets to trade with less stress of existential left tail risk.
3. People say that we would have bigger problems. Yes, I know that banks etc would also be at risk and society would be a clusterfuck, but the government should step in to save my money (and society) at that point. I don't know that they will for crypto. Plus, why would a malicious practitioner rather burn the whole world down over just stealing infinite crypto?
4. People say this is just like Quantum FUD. Nah, this is much more concrete and near term. This doesn't require a new scientific breakthrough, only the continued march of AI progress that we've been scaling on for years.
I got into crypto as a techno optimist but there's other investment expressions of that now. The development of AI (and recently the intersection of bio x AI) is more intellectually interesting to me. Being in crypto feels like being short AI progress, and I do not want to be short AI progress.
This is not investment advice, everyone should decide for themselves how they feel about the topic. I am just one random human being on the internet, expressing my thoughts.
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Raqcoin retweeted
Replying to @VitalikButerin
Quantum-safe should be set more PRIORIT than privacy protection such as ZKP, Vitalik! As I said a couple of times before!
ZKP use hash-based only, Q-safe could be others, Depends on detailed applied scenario, tackle multi-sig concurrently for stablecoins?
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Replying to @VitalikButerin
As per "STARK Friendly Hash – Survey and Recommendation", not very sure what gonna happen once if Rescue Hash Function does NOT work in ethereum? have a trial to build ZKP compatible with Lattice-based?Hash HBS?or lattice? which is better? between these two quantum proof algos?
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“1. 即使经NIST 的广泛的同行评审,有没有一种可能性,就是某些算法仍可能存在疑问甚至后门?
2. 如果让参与制定标准的那些算法的核心科学家来做算法有没有可能靠谱呢?为什么是?为什么不是?
3. 其实很多具体的应用场景,实际上并未被 NIST的标准算法所覆盖,那么要咋解决呢?”
Replying to @infosec
1, Even aleady peer-reviewed widely via NIST, some kind of algos could be still in doubt?
2, What if to get the hard-core experts who have got involved in the standardized algos to do?
3, Some detailed applied scenarios are actually covered NO by NIST standards, how to tackle?
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UOV(非平衡油醋算法)是一种抗量子计算破解的数字签名方案,是美国NIST 后量子密码标准化进程中附加数字签名方案的核心候选者。也是抗量子加密币 #RaqCoin 采用的签名算法。UOV方案由以下11位专家提交:
About #UOV (Unbalanced Oil and Vinegar)
UOV is a quantum-resistant digital signature scheme. In October 2024, it was selected as a Round-2 candidate in the Additional Digital Signature category of the Post-Quantum Cryptography Standardization Process. #Raqcoin #UOV #Rainbow #Multivariate
LINK: uovsig.org/homepage
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谷歌宣布将在 2029 年前全面升级到抗量子密码,比美国政府的规划提前 6 年。并警告银行、政府和技术提供商也要在2029年前做好准备。
#BTC 社区做好准备了吗?
Google warns quantum computers could hack encrypted systems by 2029 #Bitcoin
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Raqcoin retweeted
Replying to @LarkDavis
TBH: Lark!
That "We just accept Satoshi's coins hacked" implies explicitly we all, whole of the crypto world, should abandon bitcoin immediately to let anyone's to be hacked by quantum.
It's dead already!
#AbandonBitcoin
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