John Min retweeted
A few people asked me: "Ethena Pay or Etherfi Cash?"
My answer? Both
I think @EthenaPay and @ether_fi have very different strengths, and you don't need to pick a winner.
Here's how I'd compare them:
1. Yield mechanism
Ethena Pay offers 5% annual rewards on eligible balances for standard users, up to $5,000.
What's interesting is that Ethena already operates the yield-generating infrastructure behind USDe, with a promotional boost covering the difference between the underlying rate and the advertised reward.
Etherfi takes a different approach.
It offers lending-based yield and automated DeFi strategies through its Liquid vaults.
You can earn on stablecoins, ETH, BTC and other supported assets, depending on the product.
The trade-off?
Ethena Pay offers a simpler experience with a defined promotional rate, while Etherfi gives users more yield options, with returns varying across assets and strategies.
2. Cashback
This is where Ethena Pay currently looks more attractive for standard users.
• Ethena Pay: 4% cashback on the first $2,500 of eligible monthly spending, paid in AVAX.
• Etherfi Cash: 3% cashback on the first $2,000 of eligible monthly USD spending, paid in ETHFI.
Both rates decrease as spending crosses their respective thresholds, and both reward tokens can fluctuate in value.
For everyday spending, I'd lean toward Ethena Pay.
3. Collateral and capital efficiency
Here's where Etherfi has a major advantage.
With Etherfi Cash, you can spend in two ways:
• Direct Pay: Spend supported assets directly.
• Borrow Mode: Borrow against eligible crypto assets instead of selling them.
For example, you can hold ETH or BTC as collateral and use your borrowing power for everyday spending.
Your eligible collateral can continue earning yield while backing the loan.
Ethena Pay is more straightforward. You spend from your balance without managing a collateralized loan.
Both approaches make sense for different situations.
4. Asset variety
Another area where Etherfi stands out.
It supports a broader range of assets across its lending and yield products, including stablecoins, ETH, BTC and tokenized assets.
Ethena Pay is more focused on its stablecoin ecosystem.
That makes Etherfi more flexible for users who already hold different crypto assets and want to put them to work.
But broader asset support doesn't automatically mean better returns or lower risks.
So, my verdict?
Don't choose. Use both.
I'd use @EthenaPay for everyday spending, earning on idle stablecoin balances and taking advantage of its attractive cashback.
It's a great way to turn some of your crypto profits into real-life experiences instead of leaving everything in your portfolio.
And @ether_fi Cash for broader asset exposure, DeFi yield opportunities and the flexibility to spend against crypto holdings without selling them.
Of course, neither is risk-free.
Ethena's returns depend on USDe's underlying strategies and promotional rewards.
Etherfi introduces lending, smart contract and strategy risks, so I'd definitely recommend understanding how its Liquid vaults generate yield before depositing.
Both platforms publish information about their mechanisms, but that doesn't eliminate the risks.
And cashback incentives can change on either platform.
But I think the bigger takeaway is that these products solve different problems.
One makes stablecoin yield more useful in everyday life.
The other makes your existing crypto portfolio more financially flexible.
For me, that's a pretty good reason to keep both.
John Min retweeted
All good points!
They should team up. Somewhere in here is the perfect fintech company.
"Rich people optimize for outcomes." Tokenmaxxing is done; value/intelligence maxxing is here.
Evidence for why Anthropic needs to IPO now? Only time will tell how much of a growth slowdown we've seen this year.
We were able to fine tune an open weight model (Qwen3.5-9B) on proprietary internal data at @coinbase, and it out performed frontier models, at much lower cost and speed, for a specialized task (fraud prevention in this case).
I think we'll see more of this pattern inside companies. The frontier models are amazing generalists. But increasingly you'll see specialist models out perform on more narrow tasks, either working on teams, or by themselves.
We're making it easy to fine tune models internally for our employees. We even have a skill for it in our internal harness that makes it easy to spin these up and start training them:
"/fine-tune-and-serve-llm I want to fine-tune Qwen for payments risk review. help me get started"
I imagine we'll have some backend services that could be replaced entirely by this new architecture.
Rain.xyz in the OCC game. How many FIs have been conditionally approved?
Rain has filed with the @USOCC to establish Rain National Trust Bank.
If approved, the bank will:
1. Provide fiduciary custody of digital assets and dollars
2. Manage reserves for permitted stablecoin issuers
3. Issue and redeem USD-backed stablecoins
Rain will stay a payments platform. It will not take deposits or make commercial loans.
Brandon Soto, former CFO of Square Financial Services and most recently CFO of Coastal Financial Corporation, will serve as the proposed President and CEO of Rain National Trust Bank.
The public portion of the application will be posted on the OCC's website shortly.
Full press release linked below.
Facts. It’s as if crypto was built for AI agents.
I like this take on the launch of Personal Agent Protocol --> the launch of KYA as a category
Another big update in agent land
@btaylor + @SierraPlatform announced Personal Agent Protocol, an open standard for how personal agents (@muse, @instinct etc) talk to businesses
backed by @Meta, @stripe, @Shopify, @Walmart + more
basically sign in w/ google but for agents --> OAuth session, user picks read vs write access, brand decides what the agent can touch
payments extension is next on the roadmap so agents can check out w/o ever seeing your card #
KYA materializing into a category 👀
TikTok is officially in the AI shopping & payments game
TikTok describes its new Shopping Assistant as a conversational AI agent designed to help users discover and purchase products.
spr.ly/6015BGLlCz
This is cool -- personal agent protocols -- and then, we've got the payments piece like x402, MPP
Today, we're open-sourcing the Personal Agent Consent & Trust Protocol (PACT), co-developed by @Instinct. We're also joining the Personal Agent Protocol working group by @Muse.
Built on A2A and OAuth, PACT enables businesses to verify who a personal agent is acting for and what the customer has authorized it to do.
Excited to shape the industry standard for how personal agents will interact with businesses.
John Min retweeted
Stablecoins are the new banking as a service
Agents are the new mobile banking apps.
Facts. Having lived in NYC for 10 years and now SF for 6, I can say it takes a bit more work in SF because it’s overall more introverted but there have been really cool indie creative projects that have come out of the woodwork the last 18 months. And who doesn’t like California weather?
a stranger at dolores park just told me he likes sf better than nyc because new york is a monoculture
it made me realise the sf monoculture people complain about is mostly self-selected. the city has plenty of people who aren't in tech, you just have to step outside the circles you default to
and if you want to stay around tech people but don't want every conversation to be about tech, that's just a skill issue. be more interesting and you'll attract more interesting people
Still happening today. Should we just make this an x402 issue? 😅
Is anyone else dealing with this on @Muse much more frequently today?
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Is anyone else dealing with this on @Muse much more frequently today?
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Moves being made in government. This and the IRS app!
Today we’re launching America.gov, a single front door to the federal government.
Instead of opening a bunch of tabs across different agency sites and trying to figure out which information actually matters to you, you can ask America a question and get the relevant answer from across 29,000+ official government websites, with the source and what to do next.




























