3- These are fundamentally different propositions about how much control we actually have.
But that is just my take so please tell me what I have missed.
2- , and declining EROI lock in a trajectory toward steady state (or tipping point and collapse in Tim's case—which I am in favour of), regardless of how clever the agents become.
Farmer offers hope through computation. You and Tim offer humility through thermodynamics....
1- I see much more similarity between your argument and Tim Garrett's than with Farmer's.
Farmer's agents learn and adapt, implying the future is contingent on smart decisions.Your model and Tim's assume physics constrains outcomes. Resource depletion, conservation laws....
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My HARMONEY model incorporates the 1st & 2nd law of thermo in complexity economics, & conservation of mass (generally). This uses an aggregate sectoral-based approach rather than Doyne Farmer's more granular agent-based approach. Both are needed. careyking.com/new-harmoney-i…
Replying to @ProfSteveKeen @jonstewart
Steve, while you're in a debunking mood,tackle this gem as well: a complexity model to "accelerate the world down a cheaper path to ending emissions." A noble goal, assuming one has found a way to negotiate an exemption from the laws of thermodynamics😕
theguardian.com/environment/…
So comforting. "It's in our hands."
Except we are the accumulation. Centuries of growth, built infrastructure,innovations—all physically embedded in today's energy demand.
The inertia is not in our hands. It's in our history.
And inertia is not a choice.
shorturl.at/Sss62
Collapse is not a single threshold but an ongoing balance between what we build and what erodes us.
When surplus vanishes,adaptation ends. Only maintenance lingers—and eventually that fails too.
The decline creeps,then cascades. Gradual,then sudden.That is the real dynamic.
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Replying to @jasonhickel
At some point we`ll have to realise that civilisation is a dissipative entity that functions as a heat engine. collapse is a mathematical certainty. an `organised collapse` aka `revolution` is our only hope to curtail the rate of decay .
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Global heating rate now at 0.4C a decade
1.5C to be permanently crossed in 2028
nature.com/articles/s41612-0…
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I am so sick of my workplace (a university if you can believe it!) force-feeding AI into everything we do - "so that you know how to apply AI responsibly". Given this technology is based on IP theft and is an environmental disaster - how about not using AI...period!!
It's not a question of if collapse will come, but who delivers the final blow. Will it be the climate, or will it be us—through our wars, our failing systems, and our leaders? The evidence suggests we are hell-bent on being the ones to pull the trigger.
xitter.cf/nephologue/status/1694…
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Quantifying Aerosol Contributions to Recent Trends in Earth's Energy Imbalance. Findings indicate that Southern Hemisphere aerosol forcing is sufficient to offset Northern Hemisphere radiative perturbations.
this contradicts @DrJamesEHansen paper.
science.org/doi/10.1126/scia…
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"We spent 19,960 centuries making better types of stone hand axes.
It isn’t surprising that it feels hard to keep up."
At some point it becomes impossible to keep up.
When managing tech requires human decisions faster than biology can supply them, tech will be in control.
Just a reminder that, by any reasonable measure, we have been going through a Long Singularity for a century and a half.
To put that in context, as species, we spent 19,960 centuries making better types of stone hand axes. It isn’t surprising that it feels hard to keep up. oneusefulthing.org/p/becomin…
Note: In a connected world, the only number that matters is total global fossil fuel consumption.Until the total flux of carbon from reservoirs to atmosphere drops,the planetary heat engine keeps running up, regardless of where the fuel happens to be burned.
Replying to @janrosenow
Note: electricity is <20% of UK’s final energy consumption,the other 80% is almost all fossil fuels. So in the 19yrs of your energy career we’ve cut the carbon intensity of one fifth of final energy use (electricity) by ~2/3, but the other 80% of energy remains largely unchanged.
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Replying to @KevinClimate
Those are noble objectives.I have always admired you for that.
fight we must.everywhere,local,regional & global...remaining unattached to the outcome.our collective predicament is polymathic in nature & entangled in the inescapable laws of thermodynamics.
Quantum improvisation at the micro scale does not prevent thermodynamic determinism at the macro scale.The "stone" is thermodynamics, not quantum odds.
You can’t quantum-tunnel your way out of thermodynamics.🙃
esd.copernicus.org/articles/…
@nephologue has an entirely different view:economic growth is thermodynamically coupled to energy consumption.civilisation not as a collection of policy choices but as a thermodynamic heat engine.













