Thanks the pings, all. Relaying our forum note, below: A number of art assets were recently datamined in the latest Beta build of WoW Forever. While we appreciate the feedback and discussion online, please be advised that these assets are not intended for this version of WoW.

WoW Forever is going to have higher active players than Midnight after launch. Gonna be pretty humbling for Blizzard to witness. We've come a long way from "you think you do, but you don't"

idk how i feel about the new pvp system. Was the old one healthy? Absolutely not. 16-hour AV weekends, honor decay eating your progress, rank 14 basically a full-time job. The system was a meat grinder. But that's WHY the title meant something. When a Grand Marshal walked into SW, everyone knew what it cost. Forever's version: weekly-capped ranks, titles without the leaderboard, Legacy Points for showing up. Accessible? Sure. Prestigious? It wont be. They didn't fix the grind. They just made the reward cheaper.

Thank you Blizz team for putting more ladies and more representation in the game. It was also lovely to see disabilities recognised, especially considering its a literal War. Keep normalising normal.

Here's a freebie: "I've heard... less than charitable things about paladins thus far in my travels. I can relate. Traveling through Horde territory, one would think they've never seen an elf before." Fewer characters too.

i have a real question @Blizzard_Ent and @AggrendWoW maybe you can answer it since i know you're doing a lot of the quests. what was that change for? the initial NPC is a guy, what is the point of going back to vanilla content to make it become a gay quest? i am not against this kind of content, but why not a new quest? why changing what existed to "wokenise" it? fine with the body type 1 & 2, that's stupid but fair enough. fine with the descriptions of trolls who went from tribe and savage to community leaders. but now even changing vanilla npcs gender to fit a narrative? come on. i want wow forever to be good. and while this quest and those changes isn't what makes it bad, it does shows this "fit the narrative" that clearly pushed retail to become the game it became and why wow forever is so expected by players. i don't want the NPCs of wow forever to slowly become what khadgar became - no one plays wow to see heroic characters end up a on a magical flying wheelchair. you're restarting from a clean slate, restart correctly, PLEASE.

When was the last time Blizzard won this hard? Not to say previous WoW expansions, patches or features were bad, but WoW Forever and the love for it is on a whole other level. Very exciting to see! November 4th can't get here fast enough.

WoW Forever flight paths still take some pretty bad detours. Will we get optimized flight path routes at launch? Would be a great QoL upgrade that also makes logistical sense so the bats and griffons conserve energy. 😂

This looks innocent, and its hard to explain, but this is exactly the type of thing that fucks up WoW Vanilla. WoW Vanilla is extremely good at forcing players to talk to eachother, help eachother, and make friends. Every single QOL you add that simplifies that process is against the core of the game. There is a reason that in Retail, you can go do 2 dungeons and 2 zones without having said a word to anyone- and when u dont need to, people simply dont. Its not about "the option", its about that ppl need to be forced into positions where they must communicate, this is what makes wow vanilla tick and why its such a hypersocial experience you cant leave without making friends.

This 100% HAS to be changed back. It's weird and off putting to new players and the overwhelming majority of people identify as male and female anyway whether they really are or not. I mean, really. WHO was this for? The 3 ze/zir retards at Blizzard? Why is this in WoW?

The most frustrating thing about Blizzard and their treatment of WoW Forever is that the game is very competently made on many fronts. The skill is there. But they can't help themselves but to undermine it all by serving as the last holdouts in peak-woke era arbitrary censorship.