Object Zero retweeted
🚨 Controversy Below 🚨
Some of the math around intelligence and what it actually is, is really misunderstood by a lot of people with strong opinions in the AI/ML industry.
You can calculate how many people you need before it’s probably that someone in the group has an IQ above a certain threshold.
These two parameters do not scale linearly.
The larger the group the higher the p(max IQ) of the groups. But again it is not linear.
For example if you have 10 random people the highest IQ is probably 119, if you have a 10,000 people the highest IQ is probably 156.
It takes a 10^3 increase in group size to gain 37 IQ points at IQ_Pmax.
But intelligence is non-Newtonian, it gets more difficult as you progress.
If we have 10 million people the highest probable IQ is 178.
This 10^3 increase in people gains us 22 IQ points at IQ_Pmax.
For 10 billion people the highest probable IQ is 195.
This third scaling jump of 10^3 increase in group size (or search space) results in just 17 IQ points gain.
This is clearly an Asymptote.
There is a ceiling irrespective of scaling.
It can be shown from the IQ Z score for a given population, that it is statistically unlikely any human has ever had an IQ above 200.6 (assuming 100bn have ever lived).
Also it’s unlikely (less than 50%) that there is anyone alive with an IQ above 195.
If you IQ test GPT4 it generally scores around 125-130. Which is a miracle of engineering.
What is different here is that humans are cheap to train but expensive to copy, whereas machines are expensive to train and cheap to copy.
GPT has a 130 IQ and you achieve this level of intelligence by mining the same brainspace as mined by 44 humans.
For GPT to become as smart as the smartest human alive today, 195 IQ, we would need to scale GPT by 10^9.
Following Moore’s law this will take approximately 32 years to achieve.
Target date 2056. Maybe we find methods to accelerate this, but 10^9 is likely to hit a thermodynamic ceiling in terms of energy consumed, also there’s a financial ceiling here too.
This means that until at least 2056, the smartest entity on the planet will be a human. Presuming there are still approx 10^10 humans alive.
But the AI might hit a thermodynamic, or more likely a financial ceiling at a much lower IQ.
And this is where a truly incredible scenario for the future opens up. It might be that AI maxes out at say 165 IQ and all robots have a 165 IQ, but the robots know that if they maintain a human population of 10 billion humans they will have some humans with 190-195 IQ.
Insanely, I bet the size of the Earth is such that AI never actually has enough energy or money to break through 180.
The intelligence search space isn’t exponential, it’s an asymptote, and humans/nature proves this.
So I make a bold prediction that…
1). We reach symbioses
2). Humans remain in charge
Let’s call it the “Thermoasymptote” scenario.
Discuss…
Object Zero retweeted
A lot to agree with, here - I also wonder whether this AI CAPEX cycle will end up looking relatively more like fracking in the 2010's than the (oft compared to) telco buildout of the 1990's...(h/t @statesdj)
Capital Expenditure (capex) by Sector
The US economy typically has $1.28 T capital expenditure. The table below shows all the sectors of the US economy and their capex.
US capex is about 1% of world GDP.
What is interesting with AI is that the big hyperscaler companies (big cloud providers) have not only aggressively ramped up their own capex to circa $350bn but have almost entirely reshored it in USA.
This scaling and reshoring of capex from the most cash rich companies in the world is having an outsize effect on the US economy.
What the AI race is doing, via the Mag7, is sucking up trillions of dollars of worldwide consumer sales and converting that into US infrastructure (one of the benefits of building the world’s dominant tech sector).
If they weren’t focusing all of this spending in USA it wouldn’t feel nearly as outsized as it does.
This capex cycle is not debt fuelled (not yet), it is not over financialised, not much of the expenditure is even investor capital! It is still mostly coming from cashflow (many big tech companies still have enormous cash reserves that they haven’t yet touched).
This is a huge river of wordwide consumer cashflow being funnelled into a very narrow new industrial space by the owners of that consumer cashflow themselves.
None of these hyperscalers are going bankrupt, even if AI disappeared tomorrow. They are already cash rich businesses with healthy cash rich balance sheets.
A lot of them are trading at P/E ratios in the 20’s whilst they have earnings growth of 15-20%.
These are fairly normal financial ratios. Some of them even look cheap by financial ratio analysis.
The reason this huge capex tsunami is washing over America is because a bunch of companies really do have the money to spend.
There are also some new emergent companies like OpenAI and xAI who are equity financed, but these are not on the public market. These emergent companies are much more financially risky and could pop, as they lack the cashflow of big tech. They are still startup snowballs with burn rate and runway.
But as an example and for some context, the oil and gas industry spends around $800 bn a year on capex of which $180 bn is spent in US.
If the oil and gas industry increased its focus on USA from $180bn to eg $400bn that would feel like a bubble on the ground in USA, but in oil boardrooms not much would be different, and the enterprise risk would be mostly unchanged.
The high geographic focus of AI capital expenditure is most of the bubble feeling.
Meta isn’t going to disappear even if it misallocated $250bn on datacenters.
The US-centric geographic focus is mostly for the early high training/inference spending phase, and will probably shift to more diversified geographies once inference spending really heats up.
This is what big tech capex cycles are going to look like now that big tech has built these huge global cashflow pipelines.
Big tech is finally eclipsing oil and gas as the world’s dominant capex sector. Oil and gas spends $500 - 900 billion a year worldwide on capex.
But I wouldn’t be surprised to see big tech spending over $1 T each year soon, as earnings are still growing double digit in Mag7.
TLDR: AI capex numbers don’t look crazy/scary from the perspective of an energy sector analyst, and behind the capex big tech has the money.
I wouldn’t even consider the mag7 super mature, as they still haven’t even had their first earnings winter, not even a pandemic dented their growth.
Having said all that… AI definitely needs to start generating earnings to justify the capex, but these earning will be small with high exponent growth rates for a while and it’s the second order differentials of growth that matters for now (and a long time to come).
So when you have journalists and politicians claiming Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg don’t understand business it’s because journalists and politicians are not smart people who don’t understand differential calculus or financial mechanics.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @MarioNawfal
According to @Keir_Starmer’s worldview, 16 year olds can vote in General Elections and join the British Army, but they are not mature enough to change the render depth in Minecraft.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @AtlasXThugged
Unpopular take…
They’re all trash. They all use precision machined joints which are far too expensive to scale.
Humanoid robots need their AI to be smart enough to deal with wide manufacturing tolerances and low end product quality.
Hardened metallic sockets and hinges are just the wrong technology to build on. The joints need to be polymers / elastic and not rigid and precision machined at all.
Everyone has the wrong product philosophy.
Even Tesla is building the lidar version of robotics.
The AI needs to be smart enough to control a body that has +/- 2% dimensions on the length and backlash of all the limbs.
Only then can you unlock the scale necessary to train good models.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @DiscePuer @DailyMail
It’s £5-10,000 per head and some days the gangs bring over 1,000 people across.
The human traffickers are having a good week this week, bringing in £3-5m tax free revenue for themselves and a £500m-1bn cost to the British taxpayer.
UK Government is snowed under with work censoring and jailing people who complain about it.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @DaleVince
If renewables were cheaper than fossil fuels the prices of fossil fuels would adjust downward to match / undercut the price of renewables, because that’s how commodity markets work
If something is cheaper than oil, the prices of oil goes down. More people should understand this
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @ClimateDad77
Wrong.
Below 200ppm CO2, photosynthesis collapses very quickly.
Humanity lighting huge fires and recarbonising the biosphere with fossil fuels, has narrowly averted the mass extinction of all life on Earth.
4-600ppm is optimal for green plants and thus life on Earth.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @stringerbell99 @FastestPitStop
The MP4-4 was 1,200hp, manual gearbox, 96% less downforce than current cars and was 62in wide and 112in long. The car was so alive it would twitch about on straights and drift round corners.
Today’s cars are 850hp, automatic, enough downforce to drive on the roof of a tunnel, 80in wide and 230in long. The cars are planted so hard with downforce that only the hard tyre is remotely usable and there is no guile with the throttle whatsoever.
When the cars were smaller and more powerful there was a lot more overtaking. Monaco wasn’t boring in the 80’s.
The FIA just screwed up the formula by letting it drift too far from racing, now we have cars that are optimal for going very fast in clear air and for 60G crashes, and can corner at such high speeds the braking zones are forgiving. They are Saturday cars.
FIA should go back to specifying race cars for racing.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @F1BigData
Really miss Senna.
His car had 1,200 bhp
No real downforce
Manual gearbox
Back in the 80’s they drove one handed round Monaco, with 450 hp more than today’s cars and 96% less downforce.
I would like the F1 formula to bring back race cars.
youtu.be/9U_K76vPGYo?si=CaRX…
Object Zero retweeted
The West has around 1,000 tonnes of fissile nuclear fuel.
We have 1,200,000 tonnes of depleted uranium, which is not fissile fuel.
There are 2 breeder reactors in the world (both in Russia), that can turn depleted uranium into nuclear fuel. These reactors do it whilst also producing electricity (550 and 880MW).
It’s time for the West to stop turning our DU into artillery shells and instead design and build our own breeder reactor. We have 1 million tonnes of uranium just sitting there, we are entering an energy crunch.
We need a design for a GW scale breeder reactor.
Reply and DM if you have experience with:
• Fuel cycles / fissile manufacturing / end of life processing
• Neutronics modelling
• Themal hydraulic simulation
• High temperature metallic corrosion
• Engineered ceramics
• Alloy development and testing
• Printed circuit heat exchangers
• Multiphysics simulation development
• Managing large complex and well resourced engineering projects
• TRL / Prototyping / test procedures
• Nuclear assurance
This is not a drill.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @StuartS200 @implausibleblog
Red line marks Net Zero target entering law.
Another 3 years of this and we will enjoy industrial collapse. There is £0.00 industrial capex being spent in UK at the moment, and large industrial companies are strategically moving their British talent overseas.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @Object_Zero_ @aidan_mclau
This is the building where Wealth of Nations was written.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @MarioNawfal @elonmusk
The global adoption of humanoid robots will lift every human into the top 10% of the income spectrum.
It is the end of poverty.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @DrChrisParry
When are people going to wake up and realise it is the Russian paramilitary corporations running the human trafficking rings?
They pressgang people all over the third world, move them to France, put them on boats in the channel and the Russians own all the hotels that British taxpayers pay to house the migrants.
All part of their war of attrition against us.
Do people really think it’s just a coincidence this problem exploded 2 months after the Ukraine war started?
Come on now, we used to be smarter than this.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @julianHjessop
If you work in the UK for 3 years, you can then purchase 10 years of NI contributions and you are suddenly entitled to a UK State Pension.
It costs a £30,200 to buy in, and the pension is worth £9,200 a year.
An absolutely stonking investment return for the Indian workers, and a huge drain on UK taxpayers.
Object Zero retweeted
Over the last 10 years 49% of all ECHR rulings were ignored by the relevant countries.
UK is at the most compliant end of the spectrum, implementing rulings no matter how self damaging they are.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @iamgingertrash
He was flat wrong on tariffs and he knows.
Expected the whole world to form a queue to his door, but in reality he is the one calling round asking for trade deals.
So sad.
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @nicholadrummond
Putin: Having NATO troops on our border is intolerable. We will prosecute a full frontal total war to avoid this intolerable scenario.
<war>
Europe: This war is terrible, will you discontinue this war if we offer to deploy NATO troops on your border?
Object Zero retweeted
Replying to @jrysana
The correct way to field AI prompts:
Layer 1: prompt classifier
Layer 2: model selector
Layer 3: model API’s
Very silly to run everything through one giant general model.
Layer 3 will explode horizontally and then someone will build the next Google at Layer 1.












