Over a trillion dollars worth of perps are traded every month, yet 99% people have never heard of them. This @LawofCodeFM episode is a multi-hour deep dive on perps, starting from the history of grain futures in Chicago to Friday's historic @CFTC announcements. It took me months to put this together. My goal: the internet's most comprehensive explainer on perps. You'll hear from the world's leading experts on the legal layer of perps; @jchervinsky and @BradBourque of @HyperliquidPC, @BrettHarrison of @Architect_Fi, @kkirkbos, @_Ryne_Miller, @mdf2000 and David Shafer of @coinbase. By the end of this episode, I promise you'll be in the top percentile for understanding perps, regardless of where you're starting from. (You just might need to listen twice. There's a lot here.) Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 4:04 What is a perp @BrettHarrison 7:18 Why futures contracts exist 8:15 Liquidity fragmentation 11:01 History of U.S. futures @_Ryne_Miller 17:08 Richard Nixon, the gold standard and financial futures 21:27 Birth of the CFTC 24:27 Robert Shiller's 1992 paper @kkirkbos 30:09 Price convergence 32:00 The funding rate 43:41 Oracles and manipulation risk 47:39 Are perps swaps or futures? 52:44 A @ChairmanSelig clip on perps 54:02 The DCM framework 59:16 DCMs, DCOs and FCMs explained 1:04:55 History of crypto perps (BitMEX) 1:13:00 How Hyperliquid works 1:25:41 CFTC's historic announcements on May 29, 2026 1:35:00 Fireside with @jchervinsky and @BradBourque of @HyperliquidPC Nothing in this podcast is legal or investment advice.