"We're creating alien intelligence" The moral, ethical, and legal destiny of robots and AI is in our hands and we should be thinking about these issues TODAY. That is the position of this week's guest, @David_Gunkel, who joined me to discuss his new book Person, Thing, Robot. In this wide-ranging conversation, we cover: - Defining people and things - Anthropomorphisaton - AI friends and girlfriends - Marc Andreesen & techno-optimism - Human treatment of animals - Cloud-based AI, LLMs, and AIs falling in love with each other - Chinese, European, and American approaches to regulating AI - AI risk and doomerism - Open source AI, regulatory capture, and ethics-washing - Artificial Superintelligence - The responsibilities of AIs - Instrumental goals & recommendation algorithms - Unwittingly heralding the downfall of civilization - Sam Altman and the technology's long exponential curve I honestly found this one of the most interesting and thought-provoking conversations I've ever had on the show. Hope you'll enjoy it as much as I did! Links to the full conversation below...