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Alice - mid-evil wizzer SaGa retweeted
Capcom reports 11,774,247 Capcom ID account email addresses have been leaked in a large scale data breach!
Users email and IP addresses were affected. No credit card information was compromised.
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Imagine thinking people haven't been pirating media since the dawn of the internet. Why are these arguments all so ignorant of actual, provable reality?
Replying to @shoes_god
その一瞬だけを切り取るのならそうでしょう。
しかし、5年後、10年後に目を向けた場合はどうでしょう。
海賊版で需要は満たされ、一部の熱心なファンは既に正規品を入手済み。
この状況で改めて正規品を販売したとして、海賊版に勝てるのでしょうか?
販売競争の観点から見て、0円の商品には勝てません
The problem with the whole piracy discourse is that all the Japanese twitter posters arguing against it *do not* see games, shows, books, whatever as art, they see it as a product.
We're arguing against insane hypercapitalists who don't even know what art is.
Alice - mid-evil wizzer SaGa retweeted
Replying to @ryorekuiemu
PLEASE pirate our media if it's unavailable or hard to get from where you live. Even some creators tell their fans to pirate their creation, for example Dana terrace, rhe Creator of Owl House rold people to pirate it. Americans pirate American made Media too
lmfao.
We just don't take your dumb asses seriously because you argue like twelve year olds. You can't even tell law from morality while living in a country run by a fascist.
You have no idea how outmatched you are.
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Alice - mid-evil wizzer SaGa retweeted
Who's gonna tell her that Germany didn't get the memo and actually flagged a breach of holocaust denial law... on a post denying the existence of a subset of holocaust victims?
Alice - mid-evil wizzer SaGa retweeted
海賊版ゲーム論争の件。
もし自分がバンナムだったら、
「そんな鉄拳6に需要があるなんて思わなかったよ。
ではPC版準備するから、それまではMODで遊んでてくれ。
公式版出たら買ってくれよな!あと喧嘩はやめてな!」
でササッと済ますかなと思うのだけど、そう簡単にはいかないのだろうな…
These people are just unbelievably fucking dumb. People don't pirate because something is free, they do it because there's no other way of engaging with the art. I own hundreds of films I had to pirate in the past on Blu-ray now.
Replying to @RavenMurcielago
何が「買ってもいいですか?」だ。
嬉々として海賊版プレイしてるような連中がちゃんと金を払うわけねえだろ。
口だけの「買ってやる」アピールまじでキモいんだよ。恥知らずの略奪者どもが。
Alice - mid-evil wizzer SaGa retweeted
This is what Japan thinks happens when you download a pirated copy of a video game:
Alice - mid-evil wizzer SaGa retweeted
Thinking more about this, and with the news of Jun Maeda, I thought back to my first time playing Clannad. There was no English release when I first played it at Uni, so I decided to pirate it and apply a work in progress English translation patch.
That game changed my life, it changed my outlook on friends and family and gave me the motivation to make something with a similar emotional impact in the future.
If I didn't pirate Clannad back then, I wouldn't have supported Key years later by buying the game on Steam, Switch, and the £100+ special edition on Kickstarter, as well as the DVD's, and every other Key work too! So, the Japanese reasoning that piracy hurts a company’s future profits is completely unfounded.
I've easily given Key over £1000 that they would have never seen otherwise, and became a big supporter of whatever they released in the future. Summer pockets was amazing! But I probably never would have considered reading it if I hadn't pirated Clannad nearly two decades earlier!
Really interesting discussion from both sides of the argument.
From what I’ve seen it basically boils down to differing cultural opinions on morals, ethics and legalities. From what I’ve seen, the Japanese are saying that piracy of out of print games can potentially harm the companies future sales so therefore it is illegal and should not be done.
The western side seems to think it’s ok because the company won’t be making any money from a game they don’t have on sale anyway…
I see merit in both sides of the argument and it’s quite frustrating to see the comments be so black and white.
I personally don’t pirate anything I don’t already own, (it’s 100% a moral thing on my end, I don’t have a problem with anyone else doing that. although owning in my case usually means buying from the second hand market, meaning the company will never see any of my money anyway..)
I would never pirate anything that is currently available to buy new.
I think it’s better for more people to enjoy the game (or any other media) than be forced not to ever engage in it because of a law that supposedly protects the companies’ future profits.
I also saw an argument that mods and fan translations are also illegal and should never be used. Mods I kind of get, as it’s changing the intended experience, but on PC, especially in the west, it’s usually seen as a good thing and can help prolong the games lifespan. But then there’s the thoughts that prolonging a games lifespan is actually bad because people’s attention will still be in the old game rather than whatever new the company has produced. But the counterpoint to that is people’s attention could always be on something else. If someone choose to play an old game by the same developer instead of buying the new one, there’s no difference.
Fan translations though I see no problem with at all, if a game is never going to be released outside of its own country. That shouldn’t stop others being able to engage with it. Some fan translations have even been used by companies as official translations in the future, e.g Falcom using fan translations for the Ys and Legend of Heroes games. Helping bring more awareness to a franchise is only a positive in my eyes and can only mean more potential sales in the future if the company decides to do international releases. I’ve played a lot of the Japanese games I picked up over the years by patching a fan translation. If they ever get an official English release, I’d buy them to support the company, but currently there’s no way to financially support the majority of companies. Maybe they should all have Kofi accounts for people who want to donate after enjoying a fan translation?
Ultimately, games should be more accessible and companies should put more effort into preserving their games and keeping them available on modern platforms.
It's not about morals, ethics, or the creators at all. It's always about paying money for something, no matter who profits off it.
Empty moralising.
That doesn't even begin to be true. People love creators of art, which is why they do everything to keep the art accessible, even if the company that owns the creators' art has decided to no longer sell it.
This has nothing to do with disrespect, the absolute opposite.

























