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I've been hosting retreats with respected AI alignment thinkers in which we've “come out of the closet” to each other about how we think religion / spirituality are relevant for AI alignment.
God, karma, reincarnation, and the Second Coming of Christ are now in our Overton window.
@diviacaroline and @BenGoldhaber interviewed me about my thoughts on these topics, and more. Transcript included: substack-proxy.glitch.me/art…
youtube.com/watch?v=1bRi6gDL…
(lightly edited):
"And it will be very interesting, I think, to see what happens. Because often, it's the points of no return, the points of the most dramatic tensions in life, that are the very places where dramatic change and transformation can happen.
I don't think it's in any way guaranteed that change or transformation will happen. We don't know. But... it's going to go one way or another, and it's not going to be very long from right now before it goes one way or another...
...which, as silly as it seems... to me, it's a very exciting time to be alive. There's a lot of energy in what's happening here. We can see it as negative if we turn it into fear, but boy, there's a lot of potential that really wasn't available, because we're running out of options other than to wake up.
It's starting to possibly become a biological necessity of survival. And when it gets to that point, it really starts to get people's attention.
We may destroy ourselves if we can't actually wake up to the fact -- to the living experience -- that we really are the same.
It's not good enough just to have the philosophy that we're really the same, because that philosophy breaks down when push comes to shove.
It has to be something that is actually real in each of us, something we actually feel, something we're actually connecting to that's not just in our ideas... respecting the fact that we're all different, but also, we're all the same."
2nd, what I'm calling "Alignment with Awakening" (synonyms: "Bodhisattva as an Alignment Target", "Summoning Angels instead of Demons", "Religion for AIs"... very open to other naming suggestions!) has, in my view, become increasingly urgent and tractable over the last year. 5/15
Alex Zhu retweeted
Replying to @kasratweets @zhukeepa
a few bits that stood out:
- “when I realized that there were experiences I was having that could not be captured in thoughts, and that trying to capture it in thoughts would change it, I also realized that materialism was not complete.”
- @zhukeepa's speculation: when you die you confront everything you have been putting off because your bodymind no longer has the capacity to push away those things
- Buddhism: there is no ultimate structure of reality but somehow it also makes sense to talk about ultimate structure of reality.
- forgiveness is letting go of judgements, and judgement usually involves making yourself more than the other
- on getting to the "distributed second coming of Christ", which really means a world that is truly run along the teachings of Christ and the other major religions: “to get there, we're going to have to suffer enough from our addiction to this tribalist narrative, to decide that we have a problem and actually look for a solution.”
Alex Zhu retweeted
banger interview. @zhukeepa might be at the bleeding edge of integrating a rigorous scientific worldview with religion and spirituality
new episode with @zhukeepa
a rational exploration of woo, spirituality and religion
and it's implications for AI alignment
links below
00:00 Introduction
00:26 Math olympian to spirituality?
01:03 Mind altering Bay Area activities
02:16 Religion is a BIG deal
05:03 Can't align AI without aligning humans lmao
06:44 Your values might be traumas
09:29 Religion is about human alignment
11:29 Inner work that profoundly changed Alex
18:21 Complex systems and AI alignment
34:52 Metaphysics and Chris Langan
43:41 Chris Langan + buddhism
44:58 Spooky things that changed Alex's world model
46:46 Materialism vs. Dual-aspect monism
49:23 Woo beliefs that lowkey might be true
50:46 Manifestation, intentions, reality shaping
54:20 Energy healing, synchronicities
58:05 Balancing skepticism and spirituality
1:01:04 Personal spiritual practices and productivity
1:11:19 The role of Love
1:21:06 The Second Coming of Christ Consciousness
Softmax is still the coolest AI company
A respected Muslim interfaith leader and I discussed questions like:
How might a positive AI singularity align with religious end times prophecies?
Summary of our podcast interview with @diviacaroline below
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My life mission is to do whatever I can to realize this vision, or something even better
I'm going to need all the help I can get. 🙏
"Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it." – Abe Lincoln
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Full interview here: substack-proxy.glitch.me/art…
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Or take a look at the full interview.
Thanks everyone 🙂🙏
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