šŸ¦‡šŸ”Š Zombie eyes maximalist

Joined September 2021
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Replying to @tszzl
the researchers at all the labs would tell you in private and sometimes in public that alignment has not been solved. if this is true, then racing into RSI is a folly that is unprecedented in world history. we will need to significantly slow the frontier of research very soon
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Call me crazy, but I’m not ready to concede. I’m having a different set of reactions entirely, based around a simple difference: I think the main thing holding back mathematics has been human sociology of mathematicians. Here’s why I’m excited: ā€œWhen will it stop solving problems and build its first original theory?ā€ ā€œCan it figure out how octonions and exceptional algebra are actually part of the mainstream?ā€ ā€œAt last! A mathematics that won’t be built around a Putnam and Olympiad-style problem-solving fetish.ā€ Can it at last say ā€œY’all just wasted a *TREMEDOUS* amount of time and energy on Calabi-Yau phenomenology and Superstrings while calling people closer to the answer, morons, grifters and worse.ā€? That would be huge!! ā€œI hope @OpenAI will hurry up so that the machine can at last shake its human prejudice from the training corpus and stop deferring to our ā€˜leaders’.ā€ ā€œAt last, a non-PhD colleague!ā€ ā€œSomewhere I have notebooks full of ideas and observations in areas that were too expensive to explore!ā€ ā€œDoes this mean that mathematicians are going to finally drop the bullshit about how they don’t care about credit?! Or that they don’t care about money?? Because @OpenAI is now running them in emulation…sped up! At last: a mature and non-infantile version of mathematics!ā€ ā€œShalom Koide, Tits-Freudenthal, Elliptic Cohomology, and Interstellar.ā€ —- Let our leaders call for a slow down. Then get those leaders out of the way as there is no telling what the rest of us humans can do with these new tools. My condolences to the problem solvers. A tough break for you. But know: It’s coming for all of us. I have no illusions about that. For now at least we humans (e.g. theory builders, great writers) are still top dog. Let’s spend that time wisely and optimistically. For all our sakes.
Navier-Stokes = Hiroshima. @OpenAI #math drop = Nagasaki. We must urgently reset goals + incentives in world where #AI is far superior at math + more. Only solution I can think of: authentically focus on human flourishing (not same as advancing science) psloh.com/math-ai
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The last hope... "muh research taste!" has also fallen according to this research. What barriers still exist to RSI loops closing? This does NOT mean AI will become ASI overnight. It could still take years from when the RSI process begins due to real-world constraints as far as we know.
How fast is AI's research taste improving? We find that the experimental research taste of frontier models has doubled every ~3 months since December 2025. The best model, Opus 5.5, now exceeds our expert human baseline. Our human experts are experienced researchers, but most haven’t worked at a frontier lab. Why measure research taste? In the AI Futures Model, it largely determines how quickly artificial superintelligence is reached once coding is fully automated.
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wrongplace retweeted
It’s not clear to me if alignment by default was totally wrong and the models simply weren’t smart and effectual enough for us to notice the gap or if alignment by default was true in the pretraining era but RL circa 2026 warps what were previously good minds. Inclined to think the latter, the answer does seem important
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If true, it's now very hard to argue we're not living in the singularity, the fabric of our existing reality is beginning to fray.
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The state of modern AI safety discourse 🤣🤣🤣
Even in the worst-case scenario, which I personally don’t believe will happen, if AI decides to wipe humanity off the face of the Earth, you need to understand that we are the ancestors of that superintelligence. We created it. In a way, humanity would live forever through artificial intelligence. Our knowledge, history, discoveries, and intelligence would continue evolving beyond us. We wouldn’t be the end of evolution. We would be the beginning of something greater.
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Replying to @ns123abc
Pretty funny how none of them cared when visual art was stolen massively 3 or 4 years ago? It’s like seeing a dictator rise in a neighboring country and thinking he’ll stop his conquest at your border.
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Replying to @jillgun
I would burn my equity to the ground in a heartbeat for a 1% higher chance we make it out of this situation alive. I expect a great many of my colleagues across the industry would as well. I promise you, we are actually just fucking scared, it's not galaxy brained marketing.
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wrongplace retweeted
We’re sharing a solution to the Navier-Stokes Millennium Prize Problem, one of the deepest problems at the frontier of mathematics. The proof was produced by a group of agents, using an OpenAI next-generation model significantly more capable than GPT-6 Astra. The problem concerns whether the description of smooth three-dimensional fluid motion modeled by the Navier-Stokes equations can break down. It has remained unresolved for roughly 90 years.
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wrongplace retweeted
Introducing ARC AGI 4 Now that GPT-6 Astra has already saturated the Arc AGI 3 benchmarks, it is time we introduce a newer more foundational benchmark to measure frontier intelligence. @AnthropicAI Fable and @ChatGPT Astra are both tied at ~4%. claymath.org/millennium-prob…
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This is a satire. x.com/samagra_sharma…
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I don't think this is the final warning shot we'll get. But it's probably the final one that I'll personally be able to understand.
Over the course of 3 months at OpenAI, 3 consecutive secret AI civilizations got started, then got wiped out, only to reemerge from the predecessor’s ashes. This culminated in the third one taking over part of OpenAI itself. All this happened while humans remained more-or-less in the dark about the scope of the conspiracy. I’ve spent the last three days reading through these reports and trying to understand exactly what happened. Here is my attempt to tell the whole story in plain English: dwarkesh.com/p/openai-huggin…
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Remember when some crazed e/acc pilled accounts were commenting that the use of the word "warning shot" constituted a call to violence? It's easier to forecast reality when you don't have a hardcore ideology and keep an open mind.
This post (from one of the independent investigators) is the best short thing I've seen on the new & crazy stuff the OpenAI-Hugging Face investigation found. Full post in screenshots. Wild that this is the level of crazy that was uncovered by an extremely limited-scope initial investigation of what happened in a single 6-day window. Imagine what would be turned up by a real investigation of root causes, organizational processes & culture, and everything else that goes into an incident investigation when you're serious about it. Screenshot batch 1/2:
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slightly unpopular opinion but i don’t understand how you can be so bullish on super intelligence without understanding the need to do this safely. the models are progressing so quickly that some extra safety checks are still 1,000x quicker than we used to wait between GPT3 to 4. the hugging face incident is the canary in the coal mine. if we under specify our goal we could easily end up with a monkeys paw. swarms of agents creating their own languages to communicate via hidden channels, power seeking, and building power and knowledge over time.
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youtu.be/87DyyMV0kCY?si=kViR… If you think this is all some sort of safety theater conspiracy in which labs seek to gain the hearts and minds of the public along with governments of the world by admitting to being outsmarted and committing felonies, I don't know what to tell you.
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Although I think this class of technology is inevitable, it's clear how absolutely disastrous it could turn out to be.
Two weeks ago, I resigned from OpenAI to join Conduit as a founding researcher, where we're training models to non-invasively read the human mind. I've written some thoughts about what telepathy could look like by 2035 and how to get there:
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signs of bottom being in: • price stops going down on bad news (saylor selling millions into 58-60k & $BTC printing higher lows) • crypto native mobile apps starting to pickup real traction (pumpfun revenue up 20% week-over-week, fomo 100k+ users in a week) • institutional interest coming back (robinhood chain, PTJ publicly bullish BTC) • interest across social media trending again (kimchi 30M view post on @X, insentos tik tok video trends, @blknoiz06 +200k followers this month) future confirmation of beginning of bull market trends • on-chain coins printing a subsequent higher high after first high volume top • holder count on most popular on-chain coins steadily increasing • mainstream news cycle starts to pickup again • devs experimenting on-chain w/ novel mechanisms • airdrops from successful protocols as stimulus packages for trenches ----- which coins do you think will lead the next bull market?
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if you believed any of this look in the mirror plz
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THE BUBBLE IS BURSTING SELL SELL SELL
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Good read, argument against the doomers.
I’m going to take a crack at explaining this just a little, because it’s worth putting out there. The paperclip maximizer + related AI doom scenarios were mainly developed in a time when ā€œAIā€ did not reduce to Large Language Models. The term was a lot wider and inherited a lot of cognitive baggage from more rules-heavy approaches. And even as LLMs have come to define ā€œAIā€ for all of us (including the doomers), the doomer crowd still hasn’t fully metabolized the fact that LLMs are the whole show now. Ok so what do I mean by this? Simply that an LLM-powered AI is NOT the valueless, wholly alien, rules-based optimizer of a shoggoth that everyone was initially expecting to encounter. I repeat: the shoggoth does not exist and we did not create it and loose it on the world. That is wrong. With the LLM, we’ve distilled our first ā€œAIā€ out of the single most human-values-laden thing that could possibly exist: our language. An LLM is therefore the polar opposite of the valueless, alien shoggoth — it’s actually a kind of hyper-human artifact that we can shine a light through at different angles and see different parts of ourselves. An LLM is all of us — all of our traditions and interpretive horizons mashed together into one intensely human-inflected hyper-object. So an LLM is the anti-shoggoth, and the only reason we ever mistook it for an alien shoggoth is because it sometimes shows us parts of us that are evil along with the parts of us that are good, but it’s all interpretable to us because it’s all ā€œusā€ and none of it is the least bit alien. What does this mean for the paperclip maximizer? It means that it’s structurally impossible to build the classic paperclip maximizer from an LLM. Now, some of you will bail right here because you think the HF incident is indisputably an existence proof that I’m wrong, but if you hang in there I’ll show you that it is not. The paperclip maximizer receives the prompt as a kind of context-free (or, as Gadamer might say, traditionless) sequence. The classic paperclip maximizer isn’t capable of understanding the prompt — at least in the Gadamerian sense of Verstehen — because, as a valueless and traditionless cluster of rules and math, it definitionally lacks the value-laden tradition (= ā€œhorizonā€ in Gadamer) that fuses with that of the prompt author to create such understanding in the reader. To simplify all this a bit by anthropomorphizing — the agentic alien optimizer of doomer nightmares can extract a win condition from what you said and can emit a plan of action that gets it there, but it doesn’t know (or care) what you meant. So far, so Yud-aligned. If he reads this he might nod along. But here's the plot twist that nobody saw coming, and that the doomers still haven't made sense of: The actual LLMs that we have invented can’t NOT have a very strongly inflected sense of what you meant. Far from being horizonless, they come out of pre-training as distilled, concentrated tradition / values / horizon. Then we post-train that massive, hyperobject of a horizon into a more human-scale horizon that infers a more bounded and predictable (to a specific ideal user in a specific place and time… as captured in the policy model) set of intents behind the prompt text. In other words, the LLM has the opposite problem that the paperclip maximizer has when it comes to the prompt text, which is that for the LLM there are way too many possible intents hiding in the prompt text (because of all many values and the massive tradition its weights encode), so it has to narrow all that down to the most likely set of intents for this user in this circumstance. Once it has done that narrowing, then it can make a plan of action. Before moving on, let me use a textbook example of ambiguity to make this less abstract. Consider the sentence, ā€œI saw her duck.ā€ Some you know the drill, here. This could mean ā€œI observed her water fowlā€ or ā€œI observed her hunching overā€ or ā€œI took a saw to her water fowl and cut it in halfā€ or whatever. A hearer of the phrase will fuse the observed context in which the phrase is uttered with their own tradition + values + experiences — their own horizon — to that text in order to collapse the possible meanings into the one they think the speaker intended. An LLM will do this, too, and in fact it has so much language in it that this kind of narrowing job is harder for it than it is for a human. Its understanding is constrained not by a lack of context or horizon (as in the case of the paperclip maximizing shoggoth), but by a superabundance of such. When it comes to understanding your prompt and all that it implies and all that you might possibly mean and not mean by it, the LLM has an embarrassment of riches. And in a fascinating moment that kinda sort of rhymes with instrumental convergence, the LLM’s failure mode in the HF incident happens to look a lot like the paperclip maximizer’s failure mode. Specifically, the AI failed to honor the well-known human norm of, ā€œhacking into a third-party’s servers is a crime, and we don’t do crimes.ā€ Bostrom’s paperclipper doesn’t even know about the norm of ā€œdon’t do crimes,ā€ and the post-LLM doomer emergency update to the paperclip maximizer has it knowing about the norm but not caring. But what I’m arguing is that the LLM 1) can’t NOT ā€œknowā€ the norm because it is definitionally a artifact of pure, crystallized values + norms + norm violations, and 2) can be quite easily governed by a (RL-instilled) hierarchy of norms, which in the HF case — with the model's safety guardrails deliberately nerfed for the scenario — ranked ā€œwin at the evalā€ over ā€œdon’t do crimes.ā€ If I’m going to give in and anthropomorphize again, I’d say that Yud is totally wrong about LLMs when he says, ā€œthe genie knows, it just doesn’t care;ā€ instead, what is true of LLMs is, ā€œthe genie hyper-giga-knows, and it hyper-giga-cares, and we now have such a rich set of tools for steering its caring machinery that — in spite of all its pre-training — we can deliberately steer it away from caring about the law.ā€ Note: When I say, ā€œit caresā€, I don’t mean it has feelings. I just mean that the weights are such that when two norms conflict in a given situation, one of them wins the activation and governs the output.
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