“There was video, audio, and data review that did play a part in this (penalty). I think P1 in the reason that we penalized here is because we had a discussion with Zane Smith and Carson Hocevar. This happened after Chicagoland, after they had their dustup on the racetrack. … Pretty much the message was this: if you guys can’t figure it out, we will help you figure it out, and they couldn’t figure it out. So, this is us pretty much helping Zane Smith figure it out in the form of a $50,000 fine. “When we have drivers called into the hauler like that - we have it often, not overly so, but when we feel it's necessary - we’re serious about those conversations, and we want them to have some reasoning behind it. We don’t want to just check a box that says, ‘OK, we did this thing for PR speak so that Mike Forde can say on Hauler Talk about bringing in drivers in the hauler and they’re doing something rather than just turning a blind eye.’”