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I am back in the Oakland/Berkeley area continuing the search for Amy Hillyard who has been missing 6 months. We are searching with some renewed hope after discovering information through a forensic extraction of her devices #AmyHillyard nbcbayarea.com/video/news/lo…
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There’s nothing on this planet that is so urgent and so necessary that 8 billion people should be working 40 hours per week for 5 decades.
For what? To build machines?
All I want is a garden.
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Replying to @FischerKing64
Everyone keeps acting like he’s performing some noble public duty by going on national television to “explain himself.” He doesn’t owe random people online an explanation, and he sure as shit doesn’t need 60 Minutes to clear his name.
He’s doing this to manage the narrative, and most people can see that. 60 Minutes has always been the prestige venue for laundering a questionable story into something that feels authoritative and settled. When they really need the public to swallow a dogshit narrative, this is exactly the kind of platform they use.
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Replying to @NateNewsNow @60Minutes
There is something with this whole case that just sits so wrong with me. I don't think he killed the children. But, I CANNOT imagine in a very short time, after losing all of my children at the hands of my spouse, that I could even think about dating, marrying, ever feeling happiness again. How do you process that amount of trauma in such a short time. Something is just so off about this whole situation. I also don't think she was in pychosis. It just so happened the night she didn't feel like cooking, needed medication for her child, (I would have picked up after the doctor visit, you know so she could get relief as soon as possible) that now she's hearing voices telling her it's her last chance?? Then returning a phone call in the midst of strangling her children. Lindsay has black, evil eyes. Sometimes people can make you think they are an angel when they are actually the devil incarnate.
Replying to @LethalLauren904 @60Minutes
Then you’d be mistaking the word ‘vibes’ for something else that it isn’t.
I didn’t attack, nor overanalyze him.
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The thing that’s most concerning to me right now is both sides know too much about what’s happening inside that deliberation room. #lindsayclancy
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I have never seen such nonsense and absolute mockery of a jury trial as we have seen today. It would seem one juror who thinks Lindsay Clancy is guilty is being pushed to change his mind and if he doesn’t, somehow, it is because he does not understand reasonable doubt.
Insane.
Replying to @Drivenbyvibes @ProsecutorsPod
No Reddington is the one not following the law. In this country you need 12 jurors to agree. When they don't we respect that we don't try to get use social media to bully them. Or that's what law used to be. Clearly not now
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Also just a note-- Reddington lied to all of you yesterday. He told the world the juror would be examined this morning, which was BS. He'd filed a motion to make that happen, and he hoped getting the NYT to report on it would force the issue. As we predicted last night, what would actually happen is this hearing.
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The foreperson is revealing the contents of deliberations in an effort to boot a juror who will not bow to her demands. This deliberation is fataly compromised, and a mistrial should be declared.
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Replying to @mama1bet @LawyerYouKnow
The note from the jurors doesn’t mean that they weren’t following the law. That’s just their perspective that doesn’t make it true
Replying to @LawyerYouKnow
So now we are allowed to take jurors whose opinion we don't like and either question until they fold or remove them. I thought our courts were against juror intimidation. I don't care which way the hold out is. That juror is supposed to have same right to their opinion as anyone
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It’s worth remembering that it could very well be 1 person is interpreting the law correctly and 11 aren’t. Just because a majority thinks they are correct doesn’t make it so.
The strongest part of the Commonwealth’s closing in the #LindsayClancy trial was that ADA Sprague never tried to convince the jury Lindsay wasn't mentally ill. She conceded that immediately. Lindsay was mentally ill, depressed, suicidal, and tried to kill herself. But that isn't the legal question the jury has to decide.
The question is whether, when Lindsay killed Cora, Dawson and Callan, did she understand the difference between right and wrong and have the ability to conform her conduct to the law. One of Sprague's strongest arguments was Lindsay's behavior before the murders. Lindsay had thoughts of harming her children and disclosed them to Patrick and her mother, yet repeatedly denied homicidal ideation when her providers specifically asked her about it. She was concerned that if she disclosed those thoughts to mandated reporters, her children could be taken away.
I this is significant because it means Lindsay understood those thoughts were dangerous and wrong, understood the consequences of revealing them, and was capable of controlling what information she chose to disclosed and not disclose to her doctors. It doesn't answer the insanity question by itself, but it is one piece of a much larger behavioral record the jury has to consider.
Sprague then also dismantled the narrative that Lindsay was taking cocktail of medications at once or was simply abandoned by the mental health system. But the evidence showed she was generally taking two or three medications at a time as doctors tried different treatments plans based on Lindsay's feedback and side effects. This is a normal process of trial.and error as provided adjustment medication until it's dialed in for the patient. There isn't a one size fits all approach to psychiatry. It important to remember Lindsay had access to several psychiatrists, therapists, emergency care, hospitalization, medication options, multiple treatment programs including outpatient and inpatient, childcare, a work from home husband, and substantial family support. At times she declined treatment options, didn't follow medication plans, or failed to give providers the complete picture.
And despite being evaluated repeatedly over several months and hospitalized at McLean, none of her providers documented psychosis. This doesn't mean Lindsay wasn't suffering. She clearly was. But mental illness and legal insanity are not synonymous.
The Commonwealth doesn't have to prove Lindsay Clancy was mentally healthy. It has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that despite her mental illness, she understood what she was doing was wrong and retained the ability to control her actions.
After listening to the evidence and both sides throughout this trial, I believe the Commonwealth has met that burden.
For me, it isn't any single fact that gets there. It is the totality of the evidence. Her concealment of the homicidal thoughts, the absence of documented psychosis before the killings, her ability to function and make rational decisions, and ultimately the planning and behavior surrounding the murders themselves all have to be considered together.
This is an extraordinarily tragic case involving a profoundly mentally ill mother, three murdered children and a suicide attempt. I understand why jurors could struggle with it, particularly after hearing experts reach very different conclusions about Lindsay's mental state.
But compassion for Lindsay's mental illness and a finding of criminal responsibility are not mutually exclusive. When I separate the enormous emotion of this case from the legal standard the jury was given, I believe the Commonwealth proved its case beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Brilliant finish from the Commonwealth. Clear, linear and all the relevant points were made. They gave that jury the path to conviction. But…it’s Massachusetts.
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Commonwealth Closing Argument — Choice, Control, and Criminal Responsibility
I thought the Commonwealth did a good job pulling together the argument it has been building throughout the trial.
The central theme was not that Lindsay Clancy was mentally well. She wasn’t. She was struggling with anxiety, depression, insomnia, medication issues, and suicidal thoughts. She was seeking help.
But the Commonwealth’s argument is that mental illness did not remove her ability to understand right from wrong or her ability to control her actions.
They started with her treatment.
Lindsay had options. She had insurance, psychiatrists, NPs, therapy, inpatient treatment at McLean, outpatient programs, family support, daycare, a nanny, and 18 weeks of maternity leave with the ability to extend it.
This was not someone without access to mental-health care or resources. She wanted help, but she wanted help in a certain way and a certain time frame.
And the Commonwealth directly pushed back on the idea that the mental-health system itself is on trial.
The DSM is not on trial. Psychiatry is not on trial. The question is whether Lindsay was criminally responsible on January 24th.
Their argument was that her providers did the best they could with the information Lindsay gave them and with her level of cooperation and compliance. Lindsay decided what help and programs she wanted to accept and turn down.
She told Patrick things she did not tell her providers.
She did not disclose the full extent of her thoughts about harming the children.
She was not completely forthcoming about suicidal ideation.
She did not consistently take medications as prescribed, something the Commonwealth argued could be seen in the medication bottles themselves. And as a nurse, Lindsay understood how important accurate information is when treating a patient.
The Commonwealth went further than saying she omitted information.
Their position is that she lied because she understood the consequences of telling the truth.
She knew her providers were mandated reporters. She knew disclosing thoughts of harming her children could result in intervention and possibly separation from them.
That itself, the Commonwealth argues, demonstrates an understanding of consequences, right and wrong, and an ability to regulate what she said and did.
Then there is the absence of observed psychosis.
From September through January, Lindsay interacted with psychiatrists, NPs, nurses, therapists, McLean staff, pediatricians, family, friends, and Patrick.
No one observed psychosis. So are all of those people wrong?
McLean could not simply hold her because we now know what happened weeks later. She didn't just conceal; she lied to them. Based on what she reported and how she presented, they did not have grounds to keep her involuntarily.
And throughout January, Lindsay remained functional.
She cared for the children. Went places with them. Ran errands. Communicated normally with friends and family. Made plans. Used her phone. Researched medications. Patrick thought she was improving. Her mother thought she was improving. The pediatrician saw her on January 24th and noticed nothing unusual.
Then Sprague moved into January 24th itself, and I thought this was the strongest part of the Commonwealth’s closing.
She walked through the deliberateness of Lindsay’s actions and the different versions Lindsay has given about what happened.
The phone evidence.
The timeline.
Patrick’s testimony.
The changing descriptions of when the voice began and what it said.
And the Commonwealth’s point was simple:
The voice allegedly told Lindsay to kill the children.
It did not tell her how.
It did not tell her where.
It did not tell her which child first.
It did not tell her what weapon to use.
Those were Lindsay’s decisions.
The defense describes her as a puppet. But a puppet does not call someone back and carry on a normal conversation.
A puppet does not separate three children and take them downstairs individually.
A puppet does not select a weapon suited to the task.
A puppet does not make sequential decisions.
And the Commonwealth attacked the timeline of the command hallucination itself.
The phone records showed Lindsay moving upstairs around the time of the call. The defense version requires movements and events that the Commonwealth argues simply do not fit into the available time.
Then there is what happened after the supposed voice stopped.
If the voice controlled her and then suddenly released her after Callan was strangled, where was the horror?
Why didn’t she immediately rush to the children?
Why didn’t she try to help them?
Why, when she called Patrick, didn’t she say, “Oh my God, what have I done?”
Why didn’t she tell him about the voice?
The Commonwealth’s explanation is darker.
Lindsay was exhausted.
She was depressed.
She was done.
Her children had previously been one of the protective factors keeping her from suicide. If she believed she could not leave them behind, then in order to die, she had to remove that protective factor.
And according to the Commonwealth, that was a choice.
She could have kept trying treatment.
She could have abandoned the suicide plan.
She could have killed herself and left the children alive.
Instead, she chose to include them.
Sprague also returned to the sequence.
Taking Dawson first, she argued, was rational.
He had been described as rambunctious and more difficult to control. If he witnessed or heard what happened to Cora or Callan, he could have made the rest more difficult. That is not random behavior. That is problem-solving.
The sequential nature of the killings and the suicide attempt, in the Commonwealth’s view, demonstrates that Lindsay could conform her behavior.
And Sprague made an interesting point about the suicide attempt itself.
The Commonwealth accepts that it was serious. But Lindsay could not complete parts of it. She could not follow through with the knife. If she truly had no ability to control her actions, why could the human instinct for self-preservation stop her from killing herself but not stop her from killing her children?
The end of ADA Jennifer Sprague’s argument was brutal.
It hurt to listen to, and I understand why she did it.
For much of this trial, the focus has been Lindsay: her illness, her medications, her doctors, her suffering, her suicide attempt, her injuries, and what she has lost.
Sprague brought the jury back to Cora, Dawson, and Callan.
The defense has emphasized testimony that unconsciousness could occur quickly.
Sprague’s response was essentially: how many seconds of pain, panic, fear, or confusion is acceptable for a child?
Their mother was hurting them.
Their mother was killing them.
That, the Commonwealth argued, is atrocity and cruelty.
Then she talked about them as individual human beings.
Cora had dreams of becoming a mom and a doctor.
Dawson wanted to be a firefighter.
Callan was too young to even have the chance to tell anyone what he dreamed of becoming.
And then came the line that probably landed hardest.
Lindsay did not carry them upstairs afterward, place them gently in their beds with their favorite stuffed animals, cover them up, and leave them peacefully. She left them discarded on the basement floor.
Like broken toys because she was done playing the game.
It was a devastating way to end.
The defense asked the jury to focus on Lindsay’s suffering.
The Commonwealth ended by reminding them that there were three little children in that basement whose suffering matters too.






















