“Ana Kasparian Challenges Bill Maher Over Israel’s Expansionist Policy” Bill Maher: If Hamas had a nuclear weapon, how many seconds would it take before they used it on Israel? Ana Kasparian: I have no idea. Bill Maher: Three. Three seconds. Because it's in their charter. Ana Kasparian: If they used a nuclear weapon against Israel, I'm pretty sure the very land that Hamas cares about would be done for. They'd be done for. Bill Maher: They would be martyrs, and that would be a good thing, because that's their death-cult view of the world. The fact that you can't see the moral difference between these two sides always amazes me. Ana Kasparian: I can't. I don't. I actually don't see the moral difference when you have Bezalel Smotrich and Ben-Gvir literally talking about exterminating the entire population of Gaza. The West Bank had nothing to do with what happened on October 7th, but they're annexing that land anyway. They're raining terror on innocent people and driving them out of their homes. Listen, I am willing to admit that what Hamas did on October 7th was a fucking atrocity. Killing innocent people Bill Maher: Oh, well, who couldn't admit that? Ana Kasparian: But you have a difficult time at least acknowledging the atrocities that have been committed against innocent civilians in Gaza. Bill Maher: Well, it depends on what you call an atrocity. All wars are going to have atrocities. Ana Kasparian: A double tap on a hospital? A double tap on a hospital, so when the first responders show up? Bill Maher: I don't know exactly what you're talking about. That's an old terrorist trick. That's what they do all the time. Ana Kasparian: Are you at least going to acknowledge that the IDF doing that was wrong? Bill Maher: Yeah, I'm sure they have committed what we would call war crimes, as every army does in every war. Ana Kasparian: Right, including our own? Bill Maher: In every war. But would you also then say, “We don't know who the good guys were in that war?” No. I think the North were still the good guys. They were fighting against slavery, as Israel is fighting to survive. Ana Kasparian: I totally disagree with you on this, entirely. I think much of the problems we have in the Middle East is due to the enabling of this expansionist policy. If Israel wasn't trying to continue expanding in the Middle East, I don't think they would be dealing with the enemies that they're dealing with. Bill Maher: They've never been trying to expand. Ana Kasparian: They're trying to annex the West Bank right now, and Lebanon, Southern Lebanon, and Syria, which they've succeeded in. Bill Maher: These are all places that they were attacked from. When they became a country in 1947, they said, “Okay, we will accept half a loaf.” They had as much right to that land as anybody. There was a continual presence there since 1000 BC when King David had a kingdom Ana Kasparian: I don't care about that at all. You can't wipe out innocent people because you used to live there centuries ago. Bill Maher: But you're calling them colonizers. They're not colonizers. Ana Kasparian: They're expanding.