There is a conflict in the statements. In one “Why Ram looks shaanth”, in another “why he rejects the Bhagya and chooses to finish Ravana, that’s avatar the character”?!
Confused souls!
Crispest review of #Ramayana by a GenZ lady.
Ok, Ravana is glorified. But where is Ram? #RanbirKapoor is a big disappointment. To act sober, gentle & "shaant" he has simply turned wooden, dialogue delivery is poor. His slouching shoulders make him look so weak. Why couldn't director ask him to straighten up? His dialogue that I reject "bhagya" I will finish Ravana is against the very grain of character as we understand, of Prabhu Ram.
She also doesn't understand why Sita remains passive when she is abducted! The Warrior doesn't fight back. She is not moved by Jatayu sacrifice. She is just an onlooker on a flight aboard a fancy aircraft!!
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Raghu retweeted
Take your children and watch #RamayanaMovie #RamayanaPartOne
We abused Bollywood, calling it Urduwood, Brothelwood, etc. BUT with Ramayana, they are finally trying to shed that image, and we have to support them.
Just because someone ate beef or drank alcohol in his personal life and is now portraying the role of Prabhu Shri Ram, we are calling for a boycott?
This is no different from how our own people once boycotted those whose wells or ponds had beef thrown into them by Evangelists and Islamists, and who were then declared Adharmi.
What was the result? We lost our own people. And we are repeating the same mistake AGAIN?
Good VFX. Good acting. Good Fight Sequence. Ravana stole the first 30 minutes, BUT Ranbir delivers a powerful, restrained performance. The music is excellent too. Grand, sweeping, large canvas music.
I felt it wasn't ARR but Dilip crying out "Ram" as Prabhu Shri Ram departed for His Vanvas and Dasharatha collapsed.
I see a lot of posts declaring, "Our XX is the Perfect Human Being."
XX - I love my head.
BUT WE HINDUS HAVE OUR OWN EXAMPLE OF THE PERFECT HUMAN BEING, "MARYADA PURUSHOTTAM SHRI RAM".
GO!! WATCH IT.
THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. WITH OUR SUPPORT, WE WILL SEE MORE SUCH MAGNUM OPUSES!!
Raghu retweeted
Half of the people commenting are mad at Rajiv because he didn't take a stand against the movie. Rajiv is probably one of the first persons who took it head on against the breaking India forces when most of these guys didn't realise something like that exists. Infact I bet many of these actually read the books of Rajiv to behave the way the are behaving today.
One can safely say they didn't understand what Rajiv was saying in his book. I mean they focused more on the enemy Rajiv was pointing to in the book but not the other part where he suggested how to counter, what is the bigger goal and broader Hindu philosophy.
Ramayana is a wonderful movie. Enjoyed it thoroughly. Meant for mainstream audiences, making a good impact. Sets a new standard for Hindu films. I can find issues with it, as with anything else, but this is a solid professional job on a complex topic.
This will become a classic that people will watch during Diwali season for many years to come.
Raghu retweeted
This is just part 1
The movie starts with Ravana becoming Lord of 3 worlds and ends with Ravana killing Jatayu and taking seetha and Rama left alone in the forest
So it is off course more Ravana than Rama
Wait for part 2 when Hanuman will burn Lanka and Rama will destroy Ravana
That is how Ramayana ended
You dunderhead don’t even have patience to watch the complete story
Didn’t Bahubali 1 end with Katappa killing Bahubali and his son still stranded and Devasena still imprisoned
Raghu retweeted
Replying to @raghuspeaking
//now coming to Ram’s divinity//
Each scene involving Ram was elevated and was a high point. I teared up when the forests start turning green upon Rama's touch. This is the highest form of respect and reverence
Raghu retweeted
I take my words back and have no shame in offering an apology to @GabbbarSingh and everyone whom I had cast aspersions regarding the @WorldOfRamayana movie. The movie is nowhere close to being a Ravanayana even though some plots (Surpanakha's part) could have been better.
Two of my closest friends have watched the movie and have found nothing as problematic as it was made out to be. It is my mistake that I feel prey to a social media campaign instead of watching the movie first. I will certainly take the time to watch the movie in the next few days.
Replying to @GabbbarSingh
This rant to defend current Ramayana does not stand much chance to convince people.
Right from casting to Music to the researcher behind the story, everything has been circumspect about this movie.
As for you, you are bound to have issues with following scriptures or having any adherence to them as you were discussing b*ef eating not so long ago on this portal.
Your takes on things in general are welcome but please spare us a lecture on religion.
That Wendy Doniger’s student, Devdutt Pattanaik, doesn’t recognise mythology as history.
Whereas Namit Malhotra’s Ramayana, even in the title card, says “Our History, Our Truth”.
How stupid, blinded by hatred one must be to ignore some very basic detail like this.
Then what were those YT videos where you were criticizing Goldman's translations, Pattnaik's works & even keeping sessions of vidwans like Dr. K Maheswaran to refute Pollock? It was to point out the distortions or something else?
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There are many RW saying Ramayana is glorifying Ravana, has not showed Ram’s divinity.
I really want to ask them, whether they have brains or outsourced their thinking?!
Ravana’s character is clearly shown with all the 10 character in the 10 heads sequence. His arrogance is shown in the killing of Vidhyutjiva scene. He causally asks his sister ti find another husband. A movie will show the character. Not give a voice over and explain every scene. Some RW have sold their brains it seems. Cant think.
Now coming to Ram’s divinity. It’s very clearly shown in the birth of Ram, that’s it’s Vishnu taking birth as human. What else do they want to see in every scene?! Someone doing bajan in every scene?! Hyping a character like mass movies?! Idiots.
The interval scene made the theatre go silent, many in tears! A righteous prince, his sacrifice and still asking the one lady who asked his exile to feed him when he is back. Shows he is not angry, he knows and understands more without saying anything. And still people say Ram is not shown as Ram. What exactly do you guys think should be portrayed?!
Ram Vs Ravan is not a simple all good vs all bad. It’s all talent on both sides. The differentiator being the Gunas. And that’s what the movie has clearly shown. You can’t call this glorification of Ravana. He is talented, rich, powerful, a great devotee, has done Tapasya, got boons. It’s not a normal person. How do you show this in movie?! You don’t want to show this?!
Namit Malhotra has given their efforts to make people inquire more about Ramayana. That’s the victory I was looking for. This movie has done it.
Raghu retweeted
The Man who almost dedicated decades for the cause of correct narrative of indology in academia has endorsed the movie but somehow dehati right wing and sadakhaggu tradiyas will convince you that this movie is so problematic.
Ramayana is a wonderful movie. Enjoyed it thoroughly. Meant for mainstream audiences, making a good impact. Sets a new standard for Hindu films. I can find issues with it, as with anything else, but this is a solid professional job on a complex topic.
This will become a classic that people will watch during Diwali season for many years to come.
Now RW Tsunami is coming!
Just saw #Ramayana movie.
Better than Adipurush by a clear margin.
More respect for the material, stronger craft, and no cheap slang. It aims for Hollywood-scale spectacle while trying to stay rooted in dharma. Results are mixed but respectable. Makers have chance to do much better in the next part. I have seen them learning from the audience feedback
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Raghu retweeted
Thanks for the fact check and telling everyone that TN's industries minister keerthana bought firecrackers from Udayagiri, Sri Potti Sriramulu Nellore district, Andhra Pradesh. Not surprising bruh!
The Vajra Hand Shot used by #TVKVijay minister @Keerthana4VNR is not a Chinese firecracker. It is an Indian product. The product packaging clearly displays the manufacturer's name and Udayagiri identification, along with the Make in India logo. The same firecracker is also available through fireworks outlets in Sivakasi.
Just because a particular variety is not manufactured in Sivakasi does not mean it is imported from China. Fireworks are manufactured in other parts of India as well. An Indian product carrying an Indian business identity and sold through Sivakasi outlets should not be branded Chinese without first verifying its actual origin. @CMOTamilnadu @TVKVijayHQ
Raghu retweeted
Replying to @TrulyMonica @Utpal_Kumar1
Disagree. There is no indication of that. You are projecting your own Marxist demon onto the film.
Raghu retweeted
What a tragedy our over opinionated folks are so shallow, thinking in terms like RW and LW, unable to think fresh for themselves.
Something strange is happening in RW X-verse. People who are usually kattar online "activists" are trying to monkey balance their half-baked opinions of the Ramayana movie. They are admitting that they will watch it and/or asking others to watch it, and giving the excuse of "splendor", "visual effects", "pull of Ramayana", etc. When questioned or countered, they are reacting quickly & viciously, in a classic display of "the lady doth protest too much". Normally, I'd have expected all of these people to not watch the movie, if not call for outright boycott. May be it's all just organic and I'm reading too much into it. Or, may be, something else is going on.
Raghu retweeted
Because I have a mind capable of thinking for myself and not dependent on news channels.
Replying to @RajivMessage
All these people are praising ramayana are stupid when news channels are itself saying
Avoid the movie
Raghu retweeted
A good review of + and - points. Independent thinker. Provocative. I agree with many of his points applicable to the Hindi version.
Watched #RamayanaMovie - the #Kannada version.
Detailed Review of the movie.
-- OVERALL --
-- Heart is in the right place, details in the wrong place. Despite several shortcomings movie is a net positive. An element of Shraddhaa permeates through the movie and makes you feel it all times.
-- The strength is not in the brilliance of individual elements but the coming together all diverse elements.
-- Movie makes it clear that it is not entirely based on Valmeeki, draws inspirations from other standard versions, and is a reimagination. There is no scope for expecting fidelity to Valmeeki. There are issues here we will come to that later.
-- VFX is the main character of the movie. Well, all characters are VFX. Human beings are a mere property.
-- CHARACTER ETCHING --
-- All characters are not well etched. The negative ones stand out. The positive ones dont. It's the story itself that elevates those positive ones not the cinematic imagination. This shortcoming is on Nitesh Tiwari. This is a vision failure.
-- My personal opinion is that BWood has lost its ability to imagine traditional Indian positive characters through years of urbanization, secularization, and westernization. This needs some deep immersion into Indian literature - Kavya, Purana, Adhunika all inclusive. It has to learn from regional Indian cinema.
-- Sita's character is a least well etched whereas Ravana is the most well etched. Kaikasi is surprisingly well etched. Maricha, Manthara, Kaikeyi, Shoorphanakha all standout. Wonder why Malyavan, Sumali, Mali are left out having gone into the Rakshasa past of Ravana.
-- One won't even remember Kausalya. Unnecessary time waste around Vidyujjihva. A slight tinge of playfulness has been thrust onto Lakshmana's role which does not add much value.
-- ACTING --
-- Acting overall is very average to above average. There is no bad performance neither is there any excellence. But certainly, leaves one expecting more. No performance absolutely stands out.
-- Best Actor award goes to Jatayu. The imagination, VFX, voice everything is exceptional. Yash shines as Ravana - as is well known now. Knowing the past masters of the Rakshasa craft I still feel Yash has fallen short, but it is still outstanding.
-- Shobhana as Kaikasi comes next best. Kaikasi is the surprise package of the movie. They chose the best person to essay it. Even when she appears on the screen without a word to speak, she steals the show. Seasoned actress.
-- Only Shobhana and Yash live the enormity of their respective roles. Ravi Dubey as Lakshmana does full justice to the role that is given to him. Gorakhpur will proud of another illustrious son.
-- Ranbir Kapoor has tried his best. The effort shows (which it should not have). The movie adds a new shade into his role where keeps a strong intrigue about why all this is happening to him. That makes the character interesting. Interestingly, his performance as Parashurama is better than his as Rama.
-- Ranbir needed some more insight into Indian life and epics to have essayed this role with more depth. Arun Govil, as Rama, lived that enormity amazingly in the past. He does it Dasharatha again. Yet, I must say I had not expected even this much from Ranbir Kapoor. In the last few minutes, Ranbir Kapoor shows signs of wearing the enormity.
-- Sai Pallavi as Sita is very underwhelming bordering on disappointing but that's the consequence of a very bad character etching. For all the talk of agency her character has the least of it in the movie. Lost opportunity. The Director has put out his confusion for full public view. Injustice for a good actress.
-- Creative Liberty --
-- The movie is creative liberty galore. I am all for it. But they must serve something valuable/significant. But none of those Liberties standout. Wasted liberties. Except 1-2 they don't add anything significant. Will deal with them in a separate post.
-- Taken in isolation some of them were potentially dangerous. But they get well positioned and woven in the overall composition and lose their otherwise damage potential. Only a discerning eye can even recognize. Most people won't.
-- One of them certainly causes a damage we will see if that will get compensated in Part-2.
-- The whole creative liberty thing is intriguing. What is their trouble to stick to one text and show it in its full perspective I have failed to understand. What is the difficulty in sticking to Valmeeki? Sita's agency is far better depicted through Valmeeki than any other ill-thought-through reimagination as the one in this movie.
-- MOMENTS IN THE MOVIE --
-- All Moments in the movie belong to the wonderful deployment of VFX. This is not a small achievement. This is a modern technology put to a creative use to represent civilizational sensibilities. We already a round of success in Yugo Sako's Ramayana. Of course, characterisation too was better in the latter.
-- Representation and Depiction of all surrounding/ecosystem/environment (City, Palace, Living Spaces, Wall Art, Forest, River, Sea, Mountain) everything adds value to the context, story, narrative and civilizational ethos. It does not fail a single moment.
-- Wonderful reimagination of Pushpaka Vimaana. Even in its mechanization its mystic wonder is not lost. Extraordinarily well-done Fights. Depiction of Dandakaranya worth a special mention.
-- Two scenes stood out for me. A) Rama immersing Dasharatha's ashes in the river B) Devendra going deep into the Ksheera-Sagara to meet Mahavishnu.
-- There is an element of Shraddha/Bhakti within the environment itself which you feel so strongly that you end up almost missing several deviations/mistakes etc., What you miss in characters you end up forgetting because you almost didnt notice - thanks to the way the VFX brings the Ramayana world to you.
Will come to controversy-elements tomorrow.
Raghu retweeted
The low iq critics should reflect on this review below. What will be its effect? This kind of reaction will trigger the buzz in Gen Z types who would otherwise never bother to probe into Ramayana. If the movie can inspire interest OUTSIDE the circles of these low iq folks, it served its purpose.
What a great movie week.
First my ass is blown away by a giant lizard who can spit blue nuclear-laser bombs. Then, tonight, a piece of Hindu mythology makes 3 hours fly by like the Diwali fireworks shooting past my window.
1. Like LOTR, Ramayana embodies the word Epic. It's a glorious culmination of all those movies where you get breath-taking aerial shots (of, say, millions of soldiers about to kick ass) and you feel like watching some huge amazing thing happen at a super-scale.
It's just grand as balls.
2. I'm betting Director Nitesh Tiwari would be frickin' insulted if any airline ever included this into its in-flight entertainment.
No, this movie is 100% NOT for watching inside a flying plastic tube whilst chewing on chicken pasta or a cheap fruit-salad cup. This movie, not unlike Godzilla, demands that audiences sit down in front of the biggest theater their city has to offer, turn off their goddamn phones, STFU, and bask in all its glory.
3. And glory is what it serves up.
The action is unreal and grabs you from the get-go. In fact about 80% of the first 30 minutes is swords clashing and bodies flying. Whilst I suspect I've seen better CGI, no one will be complaining too much.
I also swear I've not seen a flying battle elephant until this movie (Jumbo obviously doesn't count).
4. Even the non-action scenes are shot like it's meant to be nominated for Best Visuals.
A straight-forward Hello or Farewell sequence can be stretched 10-minutes replete with orchestral accompaniment (and this is probably my only quibble i.e. some portions took unnecessarily long and felt like Tiwari taking the self-indulgent piss).
5. The actors. As far as I'm concerned, a young Sly Stallone was Ram, Gerald Butler was Ravana, Eric Bana was Lakshman and I don't know who the actresses are but they were smokin' 🔥.
6. It helped that I'm glib about Hindu mythology so I really have no idea what's about to happen.
7. Did I prefer this movie or Ne Zha 2?
If you put a Glock to my head I"ll say NZ (its visual audacity remain unmatched) but I can't deny I'm salivating for Ramayana Part 2.
8. Ram and his bow brought back Odyssey vibes.
Here comes the most important persons review! The author of several books including “Being Different” which talks about how Sanatana Dharma is different from other religions.
Ramayana is a wonderful movie. Enjoyed it thoroughly. Meant for mainstream audiences, making a good impact. Sets a new standard for Hindu films. I can find issues with it, as with anything else, but this is a solid professional job on a complex topic.
This will become a classic that people will watch during Diwali season for many years to come.
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An Indian would say “seek yourselves”. Only an Indian would understand the meaning of this.
We don’t have to say anything bad about any religion. We Indians are seekers. Seekers of the self, which is the supreme Brahman. We have seers to guide us in that path.
Please try to know more about Indians before suggesting us what to believe.
To all my fellow South Asians who are celebrating Diwali….
Seek Christ as he is The Way, The Truth and The Light
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The beginning of the Song has 5 notes in Guitar I think. Sounds familiar. From Roja, that “Niram Maaralaam, Inam ondrudhaan”. But that’s all.
The strings section starts to make you feel like surfing in an ocean! Or flying! Just experience. Then the humming starts, bringing you back to normalcy.
It’s amazing. ARR has done well in this song.
Replying to @ViduraUvacha
Sita’s Aspiration is by Kumar Viswas. It’s in Sanskrit and so poetic when I understood the meaning. Wait for the song to grow on you.
I too did not like the songs initially. Now playing continuously!
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