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Year 1 and 2 in one spot so its easier to find for me, probably the coolest thing i’ve ever done
3k to 8figs
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Just deleted everything related to that packs shit.
Because i truly believe its not okay
Its too easy to lose and doesn’t feel real
0 edge
I dont want to be the reason ppl try it and get addicted to it.
Thats the last thing i want
What i want from you is to learn how to trade properly and ACTUALLY have an edge.
Promoting a trading platform is fine, but now pf has snuck themselves into getting you guys to promote pure gambling for no extra charge
Lol
95% OF TRADERS LOSE MONEY !!!!!
well shit what do you think is happening in other sectors of the world do you think everybody is winning in their life or achieving their dreams
just because someone is not directly losing money that does not mean at all they are not on the losing end of the war some people spend their entire life working for people and make a fraction of their salaries or spend their entire life preparing for an audition they don't make it to or a sports they want to go pro in
Do you know fewer than 2% of college athletes and roughly 0.015% to 0.05% of all youth or high school participants go pro or there is a 0.0005% chance to be a top celebrity
will you consider this WINNING or BETTER ODDS ?
did you just think you can walk in and spend $100 or 200 and walk away with life changing gains if yes let me break it to you , you were dropped as a child
you can pick any industry in this world that makes you money and you will realize 95% of the people are losing everywhere
losing has never been just about money people are losing time , mobility , passion and what not
The day YOU stop treating this space as some freaking genie lamp and see it as an industry that requires extreme work to achieve your goals YOU WILL WIN
If you think this is valid justification for not bothering to learn on-chain trading, you're a complete retard btw
All you need is some 2nd order thinking to understand why you can derive edge trading on-chain.
Many players (even ppl w/ holding styles) in this space win without any “cabal” - reverse engineer how
The Audit Of The Memecoin Casino
Since late August we have recorded every trade on every pump fun and Stonk launch on Solana. Not a sample. All of it: 384 million swaps from 7.7 million wallets across more than a million pools, every bonding curve and every pool that follows it. That is over 56 GB of data and 820 million rows of market history, and it grows by 18 to 25 million trades, up to a million wallets and more than 60,000 new launches every day.
We measured each coin minute by minute. We scored every entry by what the coin did next. We trained neural nets on the result, then went wallet by wallet looking for the people who actually win.
The question was simple: can anyone see the big move coming before it happens?
The short answer is no. The long answer is worse than no, because the data does not just fail to find an edge for you. It shows, in detail, who holds the edge, how they use it, and what they do with you.
Start with a coin that has actually caught a bid: real volume, real buyers, the kind of thing that shows up on your screener. From any given moment, about one in ten of those doubles within the next 24 hours. The rest bleed, and the bleeding is not gentle.
Now take a wallet's first buy into a live coin. Every first buy, 22.8 million of them over a two-week window. In 17% of those entries the coin doubles before it drops 40%. Trade that mechanically, double or stop, and you lose about 19% per attempt after costs.
Call that the house hold. A slot machine keeps 5 to 10%. This keeps 19%, per pull, before any skill or selection is applied.
The reason is the shape of the payoff. A 2× pays you 100%. The failures do not cost you 10%; they cost you 50%, 80%, 95%. To break even you have to be right far more often than the game allows.
The cabal is real, and we can see it
CT calls it the cabal. The data calls it a cluster: a set of wallets whose first buys land within a minute of each other, on the same brand-new coins, over and over. We do not find them by name or PFP. They fall out of the trade stream all on their own.
They are there. Swarms of 450, 1,400 and 2,000 wallets that hit hundreds of launches a week, moving in within the first minute or two of a coin's life. Smaller, tighter groups of 7 to 50 wallets that pick their spots. Across daily refreshes the count has run from 9 groups to 33, with members rotating in and out as wallets burn and fresh ones take their place.
They are not guessing. The coins the big swarms pile into double 28 to 46% of the time, three to four times the base rate. Their own entries, across every coin they touch, run 50 to 60% to a 2× before a 40% drop, against 17% for everyone else.
That is what an edge looks like in this market. It belongs to a few hundred wallets, and it is applied to tens of thousands of launches with industrial regularity.
Copying them loses too
The obvious retort: find the cabal, copy the cabal. We did exactly that. A machine watches every launch every minute and flags the moment a known group piles in. Then we traded every flag the way a fast human could: in two minutes behind the group, double or stop out at −40%, out after a day.
Following the big swarms lost 41% per coin across 93 coins. The median result was −95%. Not because they were wrong; their coins doubled 28% of the time. Two minutes behind them is simply already the top of the move. They bought at launch. You bought the candle they are selling into.
Following only the groups with a positive track record still lost 11% per coin. Following one good wallet on its own lost 20% per trade in our back-tests. The single pocket that came out ahead, a handful of small, tight groups, made about 10% per coin over 16 coins. That is a few days of trades and nothing anyone should bet a bankroll on.
The cabal's edge is not information you can borrow. It is position. By the time their trade is visible on-chain, the thing that made it profitable is gone.
The best model we could build still loses
We also tried the honest version: no cabal, just prediction. Dozens of signals per coin every minute, price, flow, liquidity, holder behaviour, bot share, fed into neural nets trained on our own history and tested on days they had never seen.
It works, in the sense a quant would recognize. The top of its ranking doubles 26% of the time against a 10% base rate. Two and a half times better than chance.
It also loses money every single day. 771 picks over eight days; every day negative; −11% per pick on the same double-or-stop rule; the median pick down 45%; 55% stopped out within 24 hours.
The ranking is real and the P&L is still red. The losers are deeper than the winners are tall, and nothing observable at the five-minute mark separates the coin that keeps going from the one that reverses. That is the part worth meditating on: a model 2.5× better than chance odds is still a losing model.
Why nobody sees it coming
The reason is simple, and it should change how you look at every chart. A meme coin moves because a few people decide to move it: the operator holding the supply, the caller with an audience, the wallet group with the bankroll. That decision is made off-chain. The chain only shows you its execution, the swaps, the volume, the new holders, and by then the first leg is done.
Everything a trader looks at, from a screener to a chart to a wallet tracker, is a photograph of a decision that has already been made. The data is enormous and almost all of it is the crowd reacting. The informative part, a few hundred wallets' intent, is visible only at the instant it executes, and the people executing it are the ones selling to you a few minutes later.
Add 60,000 launches a day, and the future 100× at minute one is indistinguishable from the 59,999 that die. The casino does not need to hide the cards because it deals them faster than anyone can read and analyze them.
Conclusion
After spending thousands of dollars in API credits, VPS costs, Claude credits, etc the goal was simple: find alpha - if it exists - in order to be able to monetize it.
Instead, all we were able to prove is what we all have suspected all along - the meme coin casino is almost entirely cabal driven.
🫡 From the depths —
The White Whale 🐋
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been on screens but mainly defensive — know my style only really gets rewarded when ceilings are high so currently just waiting for something that can either a) set the ceiling high again or b) something that actually sets one, there are def other trades to make though!
currently think ai is the main theme to keep an eye on. ai concept generation (art, animation etc) seems to be heating up and feels like where the puck is going. everyone seems to be integrating launchpads as a way to loop revenue back into the coin -- novel mechanics that utilize v4 is also interesting to me
a main heuristic im running that decides if i want to throw some size is, can i say its the "next _____"?
--> If no, the ceiling is undefined and i want to speculate early and heavy into that if the project seems to have quality behind it. it should feel difficult to draw a parrallel that makes sense
Nice 2 day reset pre-Q4. Experimented with posting less to focus on trading, but found that i prob trade a little better w/ accountability of more freq public posts + prev day's core thoughts front of mind pre-session
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still trading but generally not forcing when ceilings feel pretty low, was able to play musebook decently but definitely shouldve unloaded a bit harder on the zuck follow because of the following uncertainty afterwards w/ agrippa etc - the biggest killer w/ bigger holds that have strong momentum imo are when uncertainty starts to build, sometimes hard to exit those positions because there isnt a clear value change being reflected on the chart and if you get complacent with assessing the situation PNL sinks slowly until you're forced to either make a decision @ support or hold off for a bounce that might not come when it drops through
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havent been away but mainly been defensive in slow market, focusing on buying good coins, leting my ideas play out, not over trading in the middle - refining more clarity into my system where its feasible
also have cut out rotating capital, more focus on letting every idea play out in a vacuum
have a good flow for now, the first few weeks i was definitely too involved + too rotational.
if market heats up will be ramping these log entries up too
When people fud 70-80% of the time its to help cope with not being in the runner under the guise of “helping you”
hey bro thanks for making the whole situation 10000x more difficult for literally everyone! I'm sure a lot of people lost money in the whole process
please make sure every other launch as difficult as this!
alright i'm talking with @wyn_eth and @musebooklol. musebook wants to use 0x91a2dae9699f0b82540b5886b0d8759c22820ba3 as the token.
currently discussing the plan for the other fees with the agent. i'm assuming they will be claimed, go to the project and will move forward with 0x91a2..
please excuse the confusion i'm getting relayed messages from an AI agent.
.@0xDeployer ngl i fw you bro. promoting pvp even when the dev has backed something - great work im ngl!
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still trading, just been focusing on dialing in and sorting out other stuff w/ friends. definitely feel like market in a sort of exhaustion with the meta and looking for something different so full focus is on avoiding betas and looking to slam on unique ideas
the times where you feel like its not great to trade are great moments for new ideas to thrive to kickstart the next meta









