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“The films are trying to stress the idea that everything is interconnected. I like to make movies that are complex, but it’s not obvious to most people unless they start digging into it. Most people don’t realize it and can’t grasp the whole entity because they’re focusing on…
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Happy 90th birthday to Brian Blessed, who voiced Boss Rugor Nass in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace! May the Force be with you!
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Some Evangelion episodes credit a storyboard artist named Kiichi Jinme, but that person is actually director Junichi Satoh, known for works like Sailor Moon.
'Kiichi Jinme' was the pseudonym Satoh used when working on robot anime.
Under that name, he helped storyboard some of Evangelion’s more character-focused episodes, including Episodes 4 and 5.
Sony has filed a patent that would take data generated by the player and use it to train NPCs behaviors. bit.ly/4ziZGQP
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Death Note premiered in Japan 20 years ago today
The anime ran for 37 episodes and became one of the most iconic anime series of all time
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This mirroring is even more impressive because, as George Lucas explains on the Episode I DVD commentary, he is simultaneously mirroring Obi-Wan with Luke during the duel in Episode V:
"Again, a kind of recurring theme of Obi-Wan: he falls over the ridge earlier, he falls over the ridge here--copying kind of what happens in 𝘌𝘮𝘱𝘪𝘳𝘦 𝘚𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘬𝘦𝘴 𝘉𝘢𝘤𝘬, with Luke in the same kind of swordfight with a Sith, falling and going over the edge, before he gets his hand cut off. In this case, we twist it at the end; instead of the Sith cutting off the hand of the Jedi, the Jedi cuts the Sith in half."
For both Obi-Wan and Luke, the duels are ultimately about avenging and taking up the mantles of their fathers:
Obi-Wan takes up his master's blade, slices the Sith Lord in half, sends him tumbling into the abyss, and then adopts Qui-Gon's cosmic mission as his own. Luke discovers that the father he is trying to avenge 𝘪𝘴 the Sith Lord, his father's blade is sliced away along with his hand, and then finally he chooses to drop into the abyss rather than join his father in his quest to rule the galaxy.
Obi-Wan's triumph is followed by a scene where he insists Anakin be trained as a Jedi, despite Yoda's forecast of grave consequences. Yoda senses "Qui-Gon's defiance" in Obi-Wan, and he thinks it is leading Obi-Wan to make a reckless decision.
This scene also is mirrored in Episode V, but it takes place before Luke's duel instead of after it. Just as with Anakin in Episode I, Yoda predicts grave consequences if Luke is to be trained, and just as in Episode I, Obi-Wan insists that Luke be trained anyway. Yoda objects that Luke is "reckless," and Obi-Wan reminds Yoda that he was no different when he was young.
The irony here is that Obi-Wan's recklessness in the scene being mirrored 𝘥𝘪𝘥 lead to disaster, and yet now he is using his youthful recklessness as an argument for Luke to be trained, in spite of the exact same danger. And according to Lucas, this is exactly the point:
"Obi-Wan begins as this strong Jedi character but when you see all six movies you'll see that what Ben is doing with Luke is very close to the same mistake he made with Anakin. So there's this underlying current that he's going to make the same mistake again, that Luke's going to turn into a Sith instead of having him redeem Darth Vader."
(quoted in Paul Duncan, 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘵𝘢𝘳 𝘞𝘢𝘳𝘴 𝘈𝘳𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘴: 𝘌𝘱𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘥𝘦𝘴 𝘐–𝘐𝘐𝘐, 1999–2005.)
Throughout the first film (if you watch in episodic order) you assume Obi-Wan must have learned from what happened with Anakin, and that now he must have some kind of incredibly shrewd, new-and-improved plan up his sleeve. But it turns out his big secret master plan is actually just to double down on the first plan from 35 years ago, and hope it works out better this time.
Nevertheless, Obi-Wan manages to convince Yoda this way. But then Luke has a nightmare vision just like his father, and he ends up flying off and abandoning his training, and it looks like Yoda was right all along and that Obi-Wan's plan has failed for the second time. And thus Luke's confrontation with Vader and ultimate failure play out as a twisted mirror of Obi-Wan's triumph in Episode I--the very triumph that convinced Obi-Wan to put all his faith in Qui-Gon and led him down this path of failure, twice.
But actually, what happens? Luke miraculously survives, because he is saved by his sister. Then, humbled and matured, he returns to Yoda just as he promised! Obi-Wan's master plan is back in play. All he has to do is confront Vader again and it'll all work out somehow. All in on Luke Skywalker.
The reason George Lucas originally ordered the final battle sequence of The Phantom Menace in the way that he did--and the reason he felt it would be so difficult to reorder the sequence, due to the way everything was designed to fit together--is likely because he was trying to so closely mirror the ending of Return of the Jedi.
Notice that the shots from Return of the Jedi in the collage below have had to be slightly reordered to conform to The Phantom Menace. But if you order the Return of the Jedi shots as they appear in the film, they conform to how Ben Burtt describes the original cut of The Phantom Menace sequence in the quoted clip:
"You go from lamenting the death of a hero, to escape, to slightly comedic with Jar Jar, to Anakin returning with his little kind of tag."
Actually, the main culprit throwing everything off is "lamenting the death of a hero" (after the defeat of the villain), which in ROTJ actually comes before everything else on the right side of the collage. Lucas had originally placed Qui-Gon's death in the same position when he scripted TPM, but when everything was cut together it turned out there was more of a tonal clash than anticipated. The solution was to delete the tag with Anakin, move Qui-Gon's death to the very end of the sequence, and then slightly adjust the editing of the scenes leading up to this new finale as necessary.
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Happy birthday to Marcia Lucas, who would have turned 81 today.
She won an Academy Award for editing the original Star Wars and was co-editor of Return of the Jedi.
She was married to George Lucas from 1969 to 1983.
May the Force be with you 💙
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I've been working on the new Star Wars video a lot, it's going to be finished very soon, and I think it's going to be really good. But I'd just like to remind people that I talk about more than one thing and I think my X-Files video and my Stranger Gays video are easily the best videos I've ever made. In the Stranger video, I talk about literally hundreds of movies and books that I think are all really interesting and that aren't SW.
Like I always say, of course I like SW, but there's nothing more boring in the world than those accounts that talk about nothing but SW. Because they only fixate on one thing, they don't even have the broader context of art history that they need to understand that one thing fully, so they're completely devoted to talking about movies for 12 year olds, but they aren't even able to understand that kind of thing well. Even George Lucas didn't want or expect SW to be his whole life, it just grew and took over, but he's said many times that there are other types of movies that he's more interested in. That's why one of the biggest points I try to make in my videos is that a lot of SW fans don't get what he's doing because they don't understand what he's influenced by and where he's coming from. You can't try to understand any art in a vacuum, because that's not how art works. Art is about communication and expression, so it always exists in dialogue with everything around it.
All of which is just to say, if you like my SW videos, I think they'd be more interesting and you'd also understand where I'm coming from better if you also watched my other videos. Or if you don't want to watch them, you could just click on them and let the ads play, I think I get paid either way
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Every living thing harbours midichlorians which communicate with the Whills, which feed off the Force. Through a chain of events, all biological processes use the Force.
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In this era of artificial intelligence, it is becoming urgent to distinguish human art from what machines produce. There is an ontological difference, even before an aesthetic one, between art and what a machine can generate through statistical calculation based on millions of images created by others. Algorithms lack the spark of humanity. For this reason, the Church wishes to renew an alliance with artists and cultural institutions to safeguard our humanity.
She’s a slimy one, and what made me certain her relationship with Lucas was fractured was ‘Howard Kazanjian: A Producer’s Life’ where Lucas’s friends attempted reconciliation with them, and also when Melody Hobson defended Lucas’s view on slave Leia urgently.
Kennedy claiming that Lucas just told her the secrets of SW were all in his head as though he was hiding them from her is a way of saying that it's not her fault that things went so off track, and it's as close as I've heard her to openly expressing the hostility toward him which kind of seemed to be the subtext of their relationship since his "white slavers" interview and some of those other comments he made.
But if you look at interviews with her back in 2012, she openly said that only Lucas really knew SW and she was lucky because he was going to be acting as a mentor to the franchise and he'd always be around to call if they had a question about something. The problem was that they stopped calling because they weren't interested in what he thought, and that obviously wasn't his choice. Now she's acting like, "How could I possibly understand without him writing me a guidebook?" Well, he probably didn't think he had to spell it out for you that much since they're movies designed to be understood by 12-year-olds, but plainly he was wrong.
The other interesting thing here is her claiming he gave her "a couple of paragraphs". She likes to phrase lies in ways that aren't technically untrue but which she knows will be understood to mean something untrue. Notice that what's in quotes here is "a couple of paragraphs", but not the part where it says that there were no story treatments. I doubt she said specifically said there were no treatments, because that would be categorically untrue. But she also didn't stop them from printing it.
Around 2015, she was saying that Lucas did give them a story and claiming that they hadn't thrown it out but rather it had just gone through a natural development process like any other movie. Then Lucas did his "white slavers" interview and made a few other comments saying very specifically that they threw his stories out. After that she shifted from saying they had just developed his stories to saying around 2019 that he never wrote any scripts. Notice that it's technically true, he didn't approve a finished script, although he did hire Michael Arndt to write one from his story. Technically though she's not lying, because he didn't write a "script", he only wrote a story treatment. But she said this in response to a question about why they didn't use Lucas' stories, and she knew full well that people would take her comment to mean he never wrote any stories, which we know isn't true.
When she says "a couple of paragraphs", nobody knows exactly how many paragraphs were in his story treatments, but the expression "a couple of" leaves her some wiggle room because it's not taken to mean a specific number, just that there weren't a lot. And yeah that's probably true, what he wrote wasn't very long. That's what story treatments are, an outline, they aren't as long as a script. But she's again trying to make it sound like he didn't give her anything to go off of and wasn't offering her any more help, which is bullshit
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Kennedy claiming that Lucas just told her the secrets of SW were all in his head as though he was hiding them from her is a way of saying that it's not her fault that things went so off track, and it's as close as I've heard her to openly expressing the hostility toward him which kind of seemed to be the subtext of their relationship since his "white slavers" interview and some of those other comments he made.
But if you look at interviews with her back in 2012, she openly said that only Lucas really knew SW and she was lucky because he was going to be acting as a mentor to the franchise and he'd always be around to call if they had a question about something. The problem was that they stopped calling because they weren't interested in what he thought, and that obviously wasn't his choice. Now she's acting like, "How could I possibly understand without him writing me a guidebook?" Well, he probably didn't think he had to spell it out for you that much since they're movies designed to be understood by 12-year-olds, but plainly he was wrong.
The other interesting thing here is her claiming he gave her "a couple of paragraphs". She likes to phrase lies in ways that aren't technically untrue but which she knows will be understood to mean something untrue. Notice that what's in quotes here is "a couple of paragraphs", but not the part where it says that there were no story treatments. I doubt she said specifically said there were no treatments, because that would be categorically untrue. But she also didn't stop them from printing it.
Around 2015, she was saying that Lucas did give them a story and claiming that they hadn't thrown it out but rather it had just gone through a natural development process like any other movie. Then Lucas did his "white slavers" interview and made a few other comments saying very specifically that they threw his stories out. After that she shifted from saying they had just developed his stories to saying around 2019 that he never wrote any scripts. Notice that it's technically true, he didn't approve a finished script, although he did hire Michael Arndt to write one from his story. Technically though she's not lying, because he didn't write a "script", he only wrote a story treatment. But she said this in response to a question about why they didn't use Lucas' stories, and she knew full well that people would take her comment to mean he never wrote any stories, which we know isn't true.
When she says "a couple of paragraphs", nobody knows exactly how many paragraphs were in his story treatments, but the expression "a couple of" leaves her some wiggle room because it's not taken to mean a specific number, just that there weren't a lot. And yeah that's probably true, what he wrote wasn't very long. That's what story treatments are, an outline, they aren't as long as a script. But she's again trying to make it sound like he didn't give her anything to go off of and wasn't offering her any more help, which is bullshit
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I've wondered what exactly is mentally wrong with these people that have this fixation on the SW EU being canon. Lucas said many times that it was a separate entity, he said repeatedly that he didn't even read the EU books, so the topic is tedious because it's been answered since sometime in the mid-90s for anybody who cares to find out.
But there are many people like this guy who somehow find it important to spend their time online all day fighting about it. This guy's schtick it that, "George's actions speak louder than his words". Since anybody can find out what Lucas said on the topic, but what he said doesn't align with the alternate reality Brandon the Awesome wants to live in, Brandon spends time compiling evidence that he thinks shows that what Lucas meant is actually the opposite of what he said. He whips up infographics of quotes and reposts them incessantly. The thing is that, if you aren't a moron, you can see that none of the quotes he uses show what he's claiming that they show.
Lucas needed some more designs for background Jedi in AotC, so he looked around at some of the comics and things since those were designs he could use and had already paid for, and decided that he'd throw in a couple of them as extras. When he talks about this, he even refers to SW comics as "the comic book world" since he always considered those stories to be a separate world from his movies. But somehow throwing in an old design as a Easter egg means that he thought everything in the comics was canon? He obviously hadn't even read most of them.
Lucas did the same thing with Darth Talon- he wanted a female Sith for his ST story, he looked around at the work that had been done and liked some of the drawings of Talon, so he decided that maybe they could develop her. He wasn't interested at all with the story about her that was written in the EU, he either didn't know or didn't care that in the EU she exists a century after the time when he was going to put her in the story. He saw an image he liked and thought maybe he could use it for something else. This is how he always worked with concept artists for the movies, he would give them free reign to try a bunch of things, he'd look at it, some of it would spark ideas, some of it wouldn't. But just because he used a design, that doesn't mean that everything the concept artists designed was canon. It's extremely dumb to act like it does.
And even if recycling a design and putting it in the movie meant that he intended the EU version of that character to be canon- which it obviously doesn't because the movie versions aren't like the EU versions- but even if it did, Lucas did this all of three or four times in the history of SW, out of the thousands of characters the EU generated. The only two characters he really used at all were Aayla Secura and Darth Talon, which tells you that he's a big, big fan of Twi'lek chicks with bare midriffs, not of the EU.
Did Lucas sometimes offer an opinion on an EU story? Well yeah, if he even bothered to know about it. Did he sometimes nix an idea that he thought would be bad? Sure. That doesn't mean that everything he didn't nix, he personally approved of. There were several levels of management working at these companies, and sometimes if they weren't sure about something they'd run it up the ladder and get approval from Lucas. That's how these big companies work. It doesn't mean he was personally checking every single thing. That's impossible and ridiculous. He was paying hundreds of people to work on this stuff so that he wouldn't have to do it all himself.
I said at the beginning that this was tedious to talk about because it's not an issue with enough ambiguity that there's anything left to be debated. It's a question that's been answered. Now I'm kind of embarrassed I typed this much about it, but I've already typed it. The bigger question is why this matters at all to the Brandons out there. Who cares if it's canon or not? What does trying to argue about this prove for them? They're trying to validate their inner 12 year old who originally read the books and thought they were an official part of the story that they saw in the movies. If they hadn't been a fairly dim kid, they would have figured out the answer to that 30 years ago, but they didn't, so rather than admit that they haven't been able to figure out simple, observable things for 30 years, they try to prove that up is down and black is white. Posts like this actually aren't about SW at all, they're about Brandon's emotional problems. I hope you get the help you need, buddy
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Instead of the now-familiar "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away....", the second and third drafts of Star Wars opened with a prophetic verse from the mysterious "Journal of the Whills":
"'… And in the time of greatest despair there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as: THE SON OF THE SUNS.'
—Journal of the Whills, 3:127"
So what exactly is this supposed to mean?
Well, we have to start with Navajo mythology. The Navajo tell of two brothers, called the "Hero Twins" or the "Twin Warriors," whose father is the Sun. The elder twin, Monster Slayer, is a bold warrior who ventures out into the wilderness to (of course) fight monsters and vanquish evil. The younger twin, Born of Water, is more cautious however, and usually stays at home watching his magical prayer sticks, which alert him when his brother is in peril. But if this should happen, Born of Water will rise to the occasion and come to his older brother's aid, proving himself a warrior in his own right. (See second image below.)
In the second draft of Star Wars, there are also two brothers, Deak and Luke Starkiller. Deak wears a medallion around his neck which he received from his legendary father, identifying him to the initiated as the prophesied "Son of the Suns." Deak, the elder brother, is a skilled warrior who travels through outer space in his starship battling the Empire and its Sith Lords. Luke, the younger brother, remains at his uncle's farm on the planet Utapau, guarding the Kiber Crystal. Luke is not a natural warrior like Deak; he is more of an artist and an intellectual. But when he receives a holographic message from R2-D2 alerting him that Deak has been captured and that their father is in danger, he bravely sets off to save both of them. (See third image below.)
This all should have been pretty convincing already, but just to head off any possible objections: yes, the Navajo Hero Twins are discussed repeatedly and at length in "The Hero with a Thousand Faces" by Joseph Campbell. (See fourth image below.)
This is all fascinating on its own terms, but it also has very interesting implications for later developments of Star Wars' story. It shows that Lucas was consciously drawing on the mythological twin motif even with characters like Deak and Luke Starkiller, who are different ages. It clarifies why Lucas briefly turned Luke into a girl in this version of the story, creating a literal male/female, brother/sister twin pair. It further clarifies the significance of Leia being reintroduced into the story and taking the place of Deak in the following draft, simultaneous to Luke being reverted to a boy. And finally it ties into the reintroduction of a messianic prophecy in the story of the prequels, in which the hero's father is literally divine and ultimately connected to the Whills (whom Lucas conceptualized as forming a sort of dyad with the midi-chlorians).
Information about Navajo Twin Heroes in second image from here: ehillerman.unm.edu/1635#stha…
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As an addendum, here's how the supreme bungler himself, Michael Kaminski, the author of the book presumptuously entitled "The Secret History of Star Wars," handles this question.
He concludes that Lucas's December 1975 comment that "we learn who Darth Vader is" merely meant that Vader's basic backstory would be explored--that is, "that he was once a Jedi student of Kenobi's but betrayed the Jedi and killed Luke's father." But this is a pretty weak explanation; that when Lucas said we would "learn who Darth Vader is," he simply meant that we would learn about things that we already knew. Kaminski seems to realize this doesn't make much sense, so he tries to concoct an alternative explanation.
To this end, Kaminski speculates (and he admits a few paragraphs later that this is "speculatory") that what Lucas actually meant was that Darth Vader would be revealed to be Luke's father's killer. He justifies this on the basis that at the time of Lucas's December 1975 comment, "Luke's father was not killed by Vader, rather he just dies anonymously in battle." Kaminski is referring to the third draft script dated August 1, 1975, in which this indeed seems to be the case.
Kaminski goes on to speculate that Lucas, "realising he might only make the first film," then changed his mind and decided to include this information in the first film after all, where it appeared for the first time in the revised fourth draft script dated March 15, 1976.
There are two problems with this argument. The first is that Kaminski appears to simply be wrong. The publicly available version of the January 1, 1976 fourth draft DOES clearly state that Luke's father was killed by Darth Vader. You can read for yourself in the third image below. What changed in the revised fourth draft in March was only the phrasing of this revelation, presumably to make it slightly more explicit. Kaminski appears to have gotten slightly confused about this.
The second problem is that the December 29, 1975 conference with Alan Dean Foster, in which Lucas made this comment that we would "learn who Darth Vader is," took place literally three days before the unrevised fourth draft was dated as completed on January 1. Lucas talks about many of the changes that appear in that draft in that very conference with Foster. I suppose it is technically possible that Lucas suddenly changed his mind in that three-day span and added this dialogue to a fourth draft which did not already include it, but that seems a little strange, and I'm not sure what actual reason there is to suspect that it happened in the first place.
But, anyway, having gone through all these convolutions, Kaminski arrives at the conclusion that the true takeaway from that striking December 1975 quote is that Lucas's intentions for the resolution of "the Skywalker family soap opera" in the third film were for it to be about "the son's vengeance of the father ultimately symbolising his triumph as a Jedi."
Basically, according to Kaminski, there was no real revelation about Vader planned at all, except possibly that he was even more evil than we first suspected, and the resolution of Vader's arc in the third film would be him suffering the righteous wrath of Luke Skywalker for his unforgivable crimes.
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If you need further evidence that George Lucas was planning a complicated arc for Darth Vader even before the release of the first film, look at the comments he made about future films during a conference with Alan Dean Foster, the writer of the novelization, on December 29, 1975:
"Han splits at the end of the second book and we learn who Darth Vader is."
The fact that as early as December 1975 Lucas had already decided Han Solo would leave at the end of the second film is an interesting detail in itself, because while by that point Harrison Ford was already in serious contention for the role, he wouldn't be officially cast until about a month later. But the more interesting detail is the second part: What did Lucas mean when he said that in that same film "we learn who Darth Vader is"?
The likely answer is provided by this very similar comment made by Lucas during his late 1977 story conference with Leigh Brackett regarding the sequel:
"When we kill [Vader] off in the next one, we'll reveal what he really is. He wants to be human--he's still fighting in his own way the dark side of the Force. He doesn't want to be a bad man, but he is. He can't resist it. He's struggling somehow to get out of what he is, struggling with his humanity."
So while the reveal seems to have been pushed back by one film at this point, we see Lucas using almost identical language as in the previous quote--and what he means is that we'll find out that Darth Vader is a morally conflicted character, who has in a sense simply become enslaved by an evil force, but who has the capacity to be good--much like the Sith Knight Valorum in the rough draft. How about that!
Now some of you may have noticed that the timing of this second quote significantly predates the first appearance of any documentary evidence of Darth Vader being Luke's father, which was in Lucas's April 1, 1978 solo draft, written essentially from scratch after Brackett's death. Does this mean Lucas already knew in late 1977 that Darth Vader was Luke's father? Not necessarily! But if not, it actually implies something potentially more interesting: George Lucas was planning for Darth Vader to have a redemption arc BEFORE he even knew that Darth Vader was Luke's father! This despite the fact that Darth Vader had been established to have KILLED Luke's father!
How could Lucas possibly have pulled such a story off? How could he make the audience feel sympathy for Darth Vader? How could he make Luke feel sympathy for Darth Vader? He BETRAYED and MURDERED his father! Writing-wise, this seems a like a pretty big problem. Do you see what I'm getting at?
We likely have all the evidence we need to pin down almost exactly when and how and why George Lucas decided that Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker were actually the same person. And ironically, most of the people investigating this question bungled it because they never gave Lucas enough credit, and so they missed the fact that "The Tragedy of Darth Vader" was real, that it probably preceded Darth Vader's identity as the father, and that it was probably the reason Darth Vader became the father. That's the real secret history of Star Wars.
One funny thing people cite as evidence of Lucas having no solid ideas about Darth Vader's character trajectory when making the first film is the fact that Darth Vader actually comes across as kind of a flunky in it. It is claimed that this is because Lucas did not know at the time that Darth Vader would become such a complicated character. But this gets everything completely backwards.
First off, here's Lucas acknowledging this dimension of Vader's character in Episode IV on the 2004 DVD commentary, and explaining why he wanted it that way and what it is supposed to mean:
"I wanted that relationship of Vader kind of being reduced to...I mean, 'an assistant' is too low of a word. But he's a henchman, which is the impression you had when you saw the first movie by itself, but if you reflect on it a little you realize that's not actually the way it is. The fact that he basically takes orders from Tarkin, who isn't an equal to him at all; he's way below him, really. But he doesn't have much choice, because he's hobbled by his infirmities and the new order which he's become a part of."
Now the obvious retort to this is that this is a retroactive explanation by Lucas, and it has nothing to do with his original intentions. But in fact this is very similar to what happens to the Sith Knight Valorum, Vader's prototype*, in the 1974 rough draft. Valorum is introduced at the beginning of that script as a fearsome and respected figure who is tasked with hunting down the heroes where the Imperial military bureaucrats have failed. Despite his villainy, Valorum has a nobility about him which is at odds with the crass, technological brutality of the military bureaucracy.
But by the third act, Valorum has failed in his task. As punishment, he is reduced by the petty, small-minded Imperial generals to the rank of a common stormtrooper, and forced into a pathetic state of servile deference to his moral inferiors; he is "humiliated." The villainous Sith Knight has become a tragic figure. His redemption by the hero follows on from this.
So in fact, this was an intentional part of Vader's portrayal in the first film. When Lucas split the original story into three films, Vader's arc was expanded. He appears in the first film as a henchman on a "leash," a figure who is fearsome but at the same time casually disrespected by the Imperial generals, whom he can scare but is ultimately held back from truly being able to put in their place.
This changes with the destruction of the Death Star with all its generals. As a result of this event, Vader is unleashed in the next film, commanding the Imperial fleet, killing his subordinates at will, his power seemingly unchecked. But then the Emperor appears, and we realize that Vader still must bow to a master. He needs Luke to change that fact, and when Luke refuses to join him, Vader is broken.
And so it is in the third film that Vader is at his most pathetic and desperate. Having failed to do so himself, he now has no choice but to rely on the Emperor to turn Luke to the dark side, at which point Vader delusionally hopes that Luke will join with him *against* the Emperor. Until that happens, Vader must obey the Emperor's every command. Even his plot to overthrow the Emperor is utterly dependent on the superior power of the Emperor. He is a total slave to the Emperor's will.
*(People get confused because there is also a character in the rough draft named General Vader, who is actually more like a combination of Tarkin and Motti.)
25 years ago today, SILENT HILL 2 was released in Japan on PlayStation®2.
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At Cornell, one person— Christina Liang — handles every disciplinary case, including the Cornell Seven’s and the suspensions of over 40 protestors. Liang wrote in 2025 that “2024 was one of the most challenging years of my career…and it helped me learn that caring less is okay.”