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We published this today. Phenomenal analytical work to understand how things could play out. give us 1,000 retweets and 5,000 likes, and we make it publicly available and do a space to discuss findings first week of Jan.
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Keep pushing, this feels like the space do early Jan is going to happen!!
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In 2015, I marched for Bernie and donated to his campaign.
In 2019, after years of being a miserable democratic socialist who blamed everyone else for my sadness, I decided that I couldn’t stand being a miserable fuck anymore, and needed to start taking risks and aggressively started doing stuff to change my life.
I started working multiple jobs. I had 3 I was juggling at one point. I funded my life with one of them, and with the additional jobs, I invested all of my dollars in Palantir. It was honestly fun. Yeah, I worked 70 hours a week usually and sometimes would go 60 days without a day off, but it was exhilarating. I was making changes and doing things. It was way better than being miserable and angry and making my entire identity about politics and my disdain for “the rich.” Those were hopeless times and I was glad to be doing something for myself.
I was able to grow a portfolio of 4,000 Palantir shares at an 8 dollar cost basis between 2021-2023. 32,000 dollars from hardcore grinding. Between 2023-2025, that 32 grand grew to over 400 grand. In May 2024 I started rotating some of the profits into TSLA, along with purchasing with new income.
I’ve learned so much about capitalism since 2019, how wealth is created, and the difference between makers and takers. I’ve been inspired by so many amazing builders and entrepreneurs on this platform. I’ve even interacted with many of them. Totally surreal.
Today, I cheered in my car as it drove me home when I heard that Elon’s pay package was approved. I voted my 750 shares on it with a huge grin on my face. If Elon gets paid 1 trillion dollars, I will be a multimillionaire.
After all I’ve been through and after everything I’ve done for myself over the last 10 years, I look at this post by Bernie and know I would’ve cheered it on in 2015, but today, I see it for what it actually is. Manipulative, depressing rhetoric intended to depress a base of voters and make them feel hopelessly dependent on him and his colleagues. None of them build anything or create value or give working class people like me the opportunity to peg my labor against their genius. They did nothing but make me miserable.
I hope even one person can read this get pumped to start doing shit. There are ups and downs, but it’s yours. Nobody can take your grind away from you. Kick ass and build over years of time and watch what happens along the way. Don’t listen to sad miserable people like Bernie.
So here is a Reuters article from three finance journalists regarding Elon Musk's proposed pay package.
Reuters is seemingly a reputable media source. And surely the three journalists would know what they are talking about. Surely.
Sadly this is a hit piece, cleverly disguised as a piece of investigative, financial journalism.
Let me quote from the article:
Yet Musk could reap tens of billions of dollars without meeting most of those targets, according to a Reuters analysis of his performance goals and more than a dozen experts in executive pay, company valuations, robotics and automotive trends including autonomous driving.
He could collect more than $50 billion by hitting a handful of the board’s easier goals that won’t necessarily revolutionize Tesla’s products or business, the Reuters review found.
Even hitting just two of the easiest targets, along with modest stock growth, would net Musk $26 billion, more than the lifetime pay of the next eight best-paid CEOs combined, a group that includes Meta Platforms' Mark Zuckerberg, Oracle co-founder Larry Ellison, Apple's Tim Cook, and Nvidia's Jensen Huang, according to an analysis for Reuters by research firm Equilar.
The article goes on to say:
Musk’s vehicle sales goals are exceptionally easy to achieve, according to four automotive experts. If Musk sells 1.2 million cars a year over the next decade, on average, he earns $8.2 billion in stock if Tesla’s market value grows from $1.4 trillion today to $2 trillion in 2035, well under long-term market-average growth. That’s a half-million fewer cars per year than Tesla sold in 2024.
Three other product-development goals are written in vague language that could provide Musk hefty payouts without significantly boosting profit, according to six robotics or autonomous-driving industry experts who reviewed Musk’s goals for Reuters.
MODEST TARGETS WORTH BILLIONS
Hitting any two product goals in a decade, along with a $2.5 trillion valuation, pays Musk $26.4 billion in stock. Hitting three targets and a $3 trillion valuation pays him $54.6 billion.
That means Musk could earn these amounts without delivering driverless Teslas, the signature product he’s promised for a decade.
Well that seems pretty cut and dried. A soft pay package that potentially delivers Elon Musk tens of billions of dollars without achieving much.
As a Tesla shareholder I should be outraged. Unfortunately for these three dim witted finance journalists, us Tesla shareholders are not quite so stupid.
Here are some inconvenient facts:
The market expects Tesla to have Earnings per share (EPS) of somewhere in the vicinity of $1.70 per share in 2025 (and not much growth into 2026), this represents a P/E of 260 times.
Comparable motor vehicle manufacturers are on P/Es of between 5-15 times.
Comparable MAG7 technology companies are on P/Es of between 25-40 times.
So if Tesla really only produces a few million cars each year for the next decade, what do you think its profits will be in 2026, 2027 or 2028. Well I can tell you that EPS is unlikely to be above $5 in any of those years. And if that is the case, what P/E should Tesla be at if profits don’t dramatically improve? Well if one is an optimist, maybe you could convince yourself that a P/E of 40 would be acceptable, certainly not a P/E of 260 times. So, if Tesla’s EPS is $5 in 2028 and you apply a P/E of 40, you get a share price of $200 – a market cap of $630 million. Elon Musk earns nothing for three years of toil.
What if the Reuters other thesis plays out – Tesla achieves (through clever manipulation) its FSD target of 10 million Active FSD Subscriptions by dramatically dropping the price of FSD. So now Tesla achieves some vehicle sales growth but dramatically reduces its earnings from FSD, what do you think its profits will be in 2026, 2027 or 2028. Well I can tell you that EPS is still unlikely to be above $5 in any of those years. So again, Tesla won’t be earning anything above $5 in 2028, won’t deserve a P/E above 40 and its market cap won’t exceed $630 million. Still nothing for Elon Musk for three years of toil.
The only realistic way Elon Musk can reach just the first of the twelve hurdles (increase the market cap of Tesla from $1.38 billion to $2 billion), is by dramatically increasing it profits (EPS) and showing a path towards further dramatic profit growth. Tesla’s profits in the next few years cannot be dramatically increased without the successful rollout of Robotaxis or a dramatic increase in the profitable adoption of FSD or making a solid start in the production of Optimus.
So, I say to Chris Kirkham, Rachael Levy and Abhirup Roy, you should know that when you put pen to paper and you demonstrate either your willingness to distort reality to spread misinformation or your lack of financial awareness, you are undermining your credibility. Now maybe you don’t care or you believe there won’t be enough people that really understand the numbers to matter, but you should at least have good look in the mirror tomorrow morning and ask yourself, “am I proud of the depths into which I have allowed myself to fall?”
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Nils is indeed a prat. The point is not that advertisers can and should choose where to advertise, but that if advertisers collude to exclude particular platforms, this is a form of anti-competitive behaviour and is illegal. Nils is obviously an ill-informed Guardian financial editor, with an axe to grind. Pathetic.
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$NVDA et al. We have published awesome research this week about what a world buying $400bn of AI accelerator chips in 2027 (as AMD anticipates) would look like. I'll share some of it on twitter if I get over 100 retweet & 1,000 likes on this tweet.
Absolutely correct Simon. Well spoken.
I didn't know people loved @elonmusk this much. This post has received almost 6 million views, liked by over 75,000 people, and brought me 20 new paid subscribers and 5,000 new followers. It clearly shows that Americans deeply care about free speech!
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After his second year at Michigan, Tom Brady wanted to transfer.
He wasn't playing in games, and he was so low on the depth chart that he only got 2 reps in practice.
Brady met with his coach to express his frustration, “The other quarterbacks get all the reps.”
Coach replied,
“Brady, I want you to stop worrying about what all the other players on our team are doing. All you do is worry about what the starter is doing, what the second guy is doing, what everyone else is doing. You don't worry about what you're doing.”
Coach reminded him, “You came here to be the best. If you're going to be the best, you have to beat out the best.”
And then he recommended that Brady start meeting with Greg Harden, a sports psychologist who worked in Michigan's athletic department.
Brady went to Harden's office and whined, “I'm never going to get my chance. They're only giving me 2 reps.”
Harden simply replied, “Just go out there and focus on doing the best you can with those 2 reps. Make them as perfect as you possibly can.”
“So that's what I did,” Brady said. “They'd put me in for those 2 reps, man, I'd sprint out there like it was Super Bowl 39. 'Let's go boys! Here we go! What play we got?'”
“And I started to do really well with those 2 reps. Because I brought enthusiasm, I brought energy.”
Soon, it went from getting 2 reps to getting 4 reps. Then from 4 to 10, “and before you knew it,” Brady said, with this new mindset that Greg instilled in me—to focus on what you can control, to focus on what you're getting, not what anyone else is getting, to treat every rep like it's the Super Bowl—eventually, I became the starter.”
Takeaway 1:
Greg Harden telling Brady to just focus on being great during his 2 reps reminded me of a piece of advice from the entrepreneur Mark Cuban.
“People come to me all the time and tell me they're stuck,” Cuban explained. “They're stuck in a job they don't like. They're stuck working for a boss they don't like. They're stuck on a team they don't like.”
“I just tell them, 'Be great.'”
“The reality of life is that you can't just always quit your job. You can't just always go to your boss and say, 'Give me the promotion, or I'm out of here.'” You can't just always go to your coach and say, 'Give me more reps, or I'm transferring.'
“So when you're stuck, you've gotta find it within yourself to say, 'Ok, this is where I am. And if I'm going to be here, I'm going to be great.'
Because if you're great at your job, typically other people and companies find out, so it creates opportunities.”
Takeaway 2:
I've written before about “lead measures”—the actions and behaviors that predictably drive success.
The core characteristic of a lead measure, the authors of The 4 Disciplines of Execution (4DX) write, is that “a lead measure is influenceable; it can be directly influenced by you.”
To achieve your goals, they recommend (echoing what the Michigan Coach told Brady), apply a disproportionate energy to the things that are in your control.
Starting at Michigan and for the rest of his career, that’s what Brady did, that’s what drove his success.
In his first media call after he was selected by the New England Patriots with the 199th pick in the 2000 draft, Brady was asked: “Are you aware that [along with starting quarterback, Drew Bledsoe] there’s another quarterback here that they drafted last year?”
Brady said he was aware of that. “And I know he’s a heck of a player,” Brady said. “But I’ve always really concerned myself just with the things I can control. I don’t put a lot of thinking into the other guys because I know I’m not at my best when I’m not just thinking about playing as well as I possibly can.”
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“I never once in my life ever said I wanted to be the best of all time. Ever. I wanted to be the best I could be, period. I learned that in college. It didn’t matter what the other guys were doing. It mattered what I was doing.” — Tom Brady
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