"The UFO phenomenon connects us beyond ourselves with all beings." ~Mack "Greg is a physician in his 50s, and he has had a lifelong battle with his Reptilian beings. They seem to struggle with him for his soul." ~Mack (@ralphblu said that John Mack died before he and Barbara Lamb could finish their paper on Reptilians. But we DO have this lecture that I believe is from 2003.) "I was just walking through the living room in my house, and suddenly...to my enormous surprise, was a Reptilian being." ~Lamb "One of my people I've worked with who studies shamanism...her encounters with the Reptilians was much more of a kind of spiritual connection." ~Mack 🦎 👽 John Mack and The Case of the Reptilians 👽 🦎 The Long Version (I didn't include this in the clip, but Mack seemed to be referring to the work of David Icke here: Mack: "The literal approach would also include the conspiratorial, paranoid approach to the Reptilians which you've probably heard about. That they're here to takeover...they're taking us over. And I don't wanna attribute that, but you know who the people are that are really into the Reptilian-takeover way of going about this." ~~~ (Note: Each Edit is Denoted by ~) Mack: "You're familiar with the Reptilian beings that experiencers encounter. They're described as tall, powerful, muscular lizard-like, often with scales. A brow here and sort of a carapace on the chest. And sometimes they're said to not smell good." (A carapace is a bony or chitinous case or shield covering the back or part of the back of an animal (such as a turtle or crab). ~Merriam-Webster) Mack: "Writer David Chase referred to them as an ancient warrior race, proud, willful, domineering, territorial, physically aggressive, deceptive, emotionally manipulative, sexually intrusive and, potentially, cruel. Their craft are spartan (extreme simplicity, lack of comfort, and rigid discipline), functional environments. In spite of their bad side, they also show a strong sense of duty and technical ability, and one Reptilian was described as compassionate." A Few of Mack's Reptilian Cases Mack: "Greg is a physician in his 50s, and he has had a lifelong battle with his Reptilian beings. They seem to struggle with him for his soul. He felt that certain Reptilian beings were out to destroy him, seemingly out of a motive of revenge. They would do this by invading his soul and sucking the life energy out of me, out of my soul. It was unbelievably terrifying. "He resisted these beings, intensely, for he felt certain that his life had a purpose and that he must deal with this darkness and not suffer at the expense of it. But through this struggle, he discovered that the light is much stronger, and the battle was actually empowering and even enlightening. "He felt a compassion for their pain and didn't want to lose a total connection with them. I think I think I want in some way to participate in their getting in touch with their souls. He said of them, 'I don't love what they do to me. I do care for them.' "And Karin, who I wrote about in 'Passport [to the Cosmos],' came upon, in one of our sessions - we had many, many sessions - but she, for the first time, encountered what she described as encounters with ugly, scaly lizard-like beings that seemed in some way, to represent her struggle with some Reptilian energies of her own. "But then I spoke with a native woman, a Peruvian shaman, about her encounters. And she said, in contrast to our kind of Judeo-Christian relationship to the Reptilian beings, she said that the serpent energy was an energy that she could enter into fully because she felt one with it. "One of my people I've worked with who studies shamanism described an encounter with an anaconda-like snake, and it twirled and it twirled and it twirled. And then it became like she was inside of a spaceship. So it was like, her encounters with the reptilians was much more of a kind of spiritual connection." ~ Barbara Lamb - My Face-to-Face Encounter with a Reptilian Lamb: "And then there's another thing I'd like to share, too. And that is an experience that happened to me, personally, in this lifetime, just a very few years ago, I had already been doing a few years of regression work with experiencers of extraterrestrial contact, including experience with some Reptilian contacts. "And one day, having done some appointments or whatever, I was just walking through the living room in my house, and suddenly, pfft - POP - right in front of me, to my enormous surprise, was a Reptilian being. He was a little bit taller than I. "Now, normally in this life, if I'd seen a reptile of any kind, even a little one, you know, in my living room (laughs), I would have been really freaked out and not very comfortable with Reptilian beings. But anyway, with this experience - conscious-awake experience - I saw this Reptilian being standing in my living room. I went right over to him, extended my hand, held his hand, looked into these beautiful - I thought they were beautiful - golden-colored eyes with a little vertical eyeball, little pupil, kind of a lightning strike. And that's all that I remember, consciously. "But a few weeks later, I had a past-life-therapy colleague of mine do a regression on me to see if there was anything more to that experience. And to make a long story short, in the few minutes that that Reptilian being was there, he said to me, telepathically, as we continued to hold hands... And I can still remember the feeling, the physical feeling of that hand. Thick and strong, and not creepy. I was surprised it wasn't creepy. "And he reassured me that he is an ambassador from somewhere else. An ambassador representing many, many different extraterrestrial beings who come and interact with human beings. And he was here to tell me, as somebody who regresses people to these experiences... And sometimes, because of my growing up in my conditioned mind, I wonder, could this really, really, really be true? It certainly seems as if it is. But he wanted to reassure me, for the sake of all those different species who come here that, yes, indeed, they do really exist. They do come here." (I'm skeptical of what Lamb said in those last two paragraphs and the paragraph below, especially since it was information acquired through hypnotic regression. Plus, I don't trust what these beings say. However, the claim of a fully-conscious encounter with a Reptilian is something I take seriously.) Lamb: "They come here very quickly into our awareness, and they pop out, they disappear from our awareness very quickly. And that it is a very meaningful phenomenon, and that we have no idea how important we are, that's you and me, all of us, are, to them. So, for me, that was a very positive experience." (Are we important to them because they use us for something? Or is it something else?) Lamb: "And then, just suddenly, pffft, he was gone, and I went on with my rest of my day (audience laughs)." ~ Mack: "All right, how do we put all this together? Now this... Well, I really can't put it all together (audience laughs)." (That's funny. The whole topic is so damned complicated.) Mack: "But the experiences are real, they're also mythic. They reflect something deep in our own unconscious, our own instinctual natures. They have a powerful mythic dimension, which does not contradict the fact that they're real. "I think - this is a hypothesis - that this tremendous interest now that's happening in the Reptilians represents a return of the repressed dimension of ourselves, which does not mean that there aren't real Reptilian beings. You see that either/or-ness that we've gotten into. It can be both: The internal and external, present and past. Real, physical and mythic." (I really like that he said that. These encounters may be part of a repressed dimension of ourselves but that does NOT negate the possibility that there are also physical, Reptilian beings interacting with us. It can be BOTH. Or several things could be going on at once.) Mack: "And perhaps some meaning for our culture, in terms of what we've been hearing in this conference about the need to come to terms with everything about ourselves, including the darkest, most powerful, instinctual, sexual, aggressive forces. And that may have something to do with why this is such a contemporary subject." ~ Mack: "The UFO phenomenon connects us beyond ourselves with all beings, terrestrial and extraterrestrial. It opens us to a connection with nature, all of nature. It is the ultimate, along with many other anomalies, but it is the most powerful one I know, to transcend the dualism, the polarity of the way we generally have come to think. It's not exclusive to the West. Polarized thinking is part of the human way of thinking. "But to transcend that thinking, to experience our connectedness to all beings, to nature, I think this enables us to do that, if we use it that way. It's a possibility that is there. I'm not saying that's what it IS. I don't know what it IS, but I think it offers us that possibility." (It may transcend our thinking about what humans are and our place in the Universe. But that doesn't mea that's why it's taking place. It could be a unnetdned consequence of contact with a non-human intelligence. It does NOT explain why these, apparent, beings are interacting with us and it does NOT tell us what they want with/from us or their intent.)