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Caring waaaay too much about ads since '08 Monitor the changes that actually impact your ads & business: https://nitter.cf/t.co/5OLof3bFrJ Ad creative: https://nitter.cf/t.co/U6aZyaTxl5
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I've spent almost $1 billion advertising on FB since '08 and this is something I see advertisers getting wrong all the time:
🛑 Stop focusing on FB CPMs (and CPCs)! They don't matter that much.
❌ Turning off ads due to high CPCs or CPMs can be turning off top performers.
🧵👇
Myth: Incremental attribution means Meta stops targeting your existing customers or warm audiences.
Reality: Meta still targets them, it just stops wasting your budget on the ones who were already going to buy anyway.
I'm not back-testing this currently and don't plan to any time soon.
I haven't seen any data or compelling arguments against Incremental Attribution other than misunderstandings, vibes, echo chambers, or trying to dunk on people.
I've seen enough tests of my own, as well as from @andrewjfaris and @oliviaakory to continue confidently widely using and recommending IA.
You can't simply run these two campaign types against each other and look at the data. Any overlap across them will be biased and improperly favor one over the other. The only way to really know how this works better is via incremental lift testing, with holdouts preventing overlap.
If anyone has:
A. Proper unbiased testing (without overlap and preferably using external incremental measurement)...
Orrrrr
B. Really compelling logical arguments...
...against IA that they can share publicly or privately for me to audit, I'd love to see/hear it.
I'm happy to be wrong about this (or anything). I'm strong opinions loosely held.
We don't need to be divisive about this, it's not about anyone being right/wrong.
Let's work together to find the truth and best ways to run ads.
You all zigged too hard on incremental attribution and nuked your audience.
Just come back. @PhilKiel and I are waiting to welcome you back.
You're advertising right, it's not your fault somebody changed the website and nobody told you.
URL Love It monitors your site so you never miss site changes again.
Turns out that even at 7pm on a Saturday night in NYC, you can just rock up to a 3-Michelin-star restaurant, get a seat at the bar, and not only get a drink, but an entire 5-course tasting menu without a reservation.
Free will is an incredible thing.
Knowledge is being dropped @heyitsalexP @andrewfoxwell
Barry Hott ☄️ retweeted
Few can get me out of the house…
Foxwell founders meetup in NYC with the great @andrewfoxwell
@binghott bringing the heat. He’s CBO test maxxing now. 😮
DO NOT LOOK AT THIS
🚨EXPOSED🚨
The king of ugly ads is rocking two lights + softboxes + a 70-200mm camera lens.
@binghott needs to EXPLAIN HIMSELF
Barry Hott ☄️ retweeted
If you're gonna set 50 Meta ads live, what's the difference between a CBO with:
1 ad set with all 50 ads in it
vs
5 ad sets with 10 ads in each
vs
10 ad sets with 5 ads in each
vs
25 ad sets each with 2 ads in each
Assuming all else remains identical across ad sets.
Logically/theoretically, they should perform the same...
But Meta says ad sets need about 50 conversions in a week to complete a learning phase, soooo, technically, with less conversion data across more ad sets, you might struggle more...
Buuuuuuut what if you have enough conversion volume that hitting 50 per week per ad set isn't an issue at all...
With plenty of conversions (1250+ per week), I'd pretty confidently assume there'd be minimal difference between any of these setups.
With limited conversions, I'd potentially expect fewer ad sets to perform better.
I've tested this stuff a little, but I'm wondering if anyone else has tested this more thoroughly.
What's been your experience? What do you think?
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199 votes • Final resultsIf you're gonna set 50 Meta ads live, what's the difference between a CBO with:
1 ad set with all 50 ads in it
vs
5 ad sets with 10 ads in each
vs
10 ad sets with 5 ads in each
vs
25 ad sets each with 2 ads in each
Assuming all else remains identical across ad sets.
Logically/theoretically, they should perform the same...
But Meta says ad sets need about 50 conversions in a week to complete a learning phase, soooo, technically, with less conversion data across more ad sets, you might struggle more...
Buuuuuuut what if you have enough conversion volume that hitting 50 per week per ad set isn't an issue at all...
With plenty of conversions (1250+ per week), I'd pretty confidently assume there'd be minimal difference between any of these setups.
With limited conversions, I'd potentially expect fewer ad sets to perform better.
I've tested this stuff a little, but I'm wondering if anyone else has tested this more thoroughly.
What's been your experience? What do you think?
Why are so many Meta advertisers still using frequency as an indicator of funnel segment when we can view actual breakdowns of those segments?
I know many marketers believe frequency indicates ad audience warmth / relevance (higher = warmer, lower = colder), but has anyone really tested/proven that?
Has anyone who doesn't already believe that tested it?
I mean, I would agree generally, that they tend to correlate at scale, but it's not a rule or causation.
The real deeper cause is that frequency is caused by placement budget allocation and placement allocation is caused by the asset and asset type.
Warmer users are more susceptible to converting from cheaper, significantly higher frequency placements.
Image ads are shown more frequently than video ads. Warmer users are more likely to convert from image ads than video ads. Warmer users are shown more image ads.
The same applies for other types of ads, not just images.
Therefore, warmer users tend to have higher frequency.
So, yeah, higher frequency should indicate warmer audience, but it also moreso indicates placement allocation...
So someone, anyone, help me: why look at frequency as this indicator when we actually have audience segment breakdowns?
My work view yesterday/today.
I love being a dad, but this is a new challenge:
My 4 year-old daughter is home from school with a fever and my wife is out of the country visiting family.
The worst/hardest part of all of this isn't having to do everything by myself and being overwhelmed...
It's how the fever completely shut down her sense of humor.
Nobody told me how hard it would be to parent when your kid stops laughing at all your dad jokes.
I don't want "fun" ad ideas anymore.
I only want evidence-backed ad ideas based on at least 2 examples of already-scaled ads or organic content for the relevant audience.
Barry Hott ☄️ retweeted
Replying to @HireFireTeam
There is so much perfectly great scalable organic content out there to replicate or take inspiration from (and that's being ignored by most marketers).
Waaaaay too many marketers think they can simply make winners from "fun" ideas without any signal that it could work.
If you're going to have a "fun" idea, you have to at least steal a way to shoot/edit it from a successful ad or organic post.