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After listening to Jeff's DAS interview, my $DRV bull thesis is unchanged, and possibly strengthened.
No, this isn't cope. Strap in for a long one.
First off, it was framed in a terribly misleading way by CoinTelegraph for clickbait (shocking).
Jeff was asked if we he wasn't forced to be focused on perps infra, their core business, and was instead a 3rd party builder, what would he find interesting to build.
His answer was that he'd look for whatever hadn't really been built yet, and mentioned options as a good example. He then added that they're tremendously important as an instrument in TradFi, so figuring out why that hasn't translated over to crypto would be an interesting problem to solve.
He then added that HIP4 is already their attempt at building the infrastructure to allow teams to build options on @HyperliquidX. There are dozens of teams building binary options already using HIP4 infrastructure. There are several teams building vanilla options on top of Hyperliquid already. None of these products have taken a meaningful bite out of @DeriveXYZ market dominance yet, and they are live right now.
He didn't say that they were building options in house, he just said that someone should build options on chain because there's a massive gap between the success and traction they've had on chain vs in TradFi. This is extremely validating of the $DRV thesis.
People need to realize and remember that @DeriveXYZ wasn't specifically written off for all these years, the entire sector of on chain options was deemed as impossible and uninvestable. We've heard, "Options can't exist on chain, options are obsoleted by perps, no retail crypto traders will learn to trade options, etc etc". Jeff negated all of the FUD that on chain options have received over the years and basically said it was the place to be right now.
Jeff did specifically say that no on chain options protocol has reached "escape velocity" yet. So if you read between the lines, he's basically saying that on chain options are interesting and necessary as a tool, that they're nascent in their growth as compared to TradFi TAM, and that it's one of the most interesting spots of the market to be focused on building right now. $DRV pumping 10x and having insane hockey stick volume growth YTD isn't "escape velocity" in his eyes, and he's right. $DRV is still cheap and early relative to the market it's expanding into. Job's not finished by any means.
It's important to highlight that unlike Vlad from @Lighter_xyz who explicitly says they are building options in house, Jeff said nothing of the sort. Hyperliquid sees themselves as building the neutral infrastructure layers of liquidity for builders to come and build on top of. Look at TradeXYZ and HIP3. He didn't say that they hired a team of 20 ex-Optiver and ex-SIG guys to be their internal options trading desk, he didn't insinuate a launch date, he didn't say HIP-5 is vanilla options. He basically said, "On-chain options are cool and underexplored, I hope teams come and build them on top of our existing infra".
Sidenote, I actually think his description of priority fees was actually way more signal and very bullish $HYPE. Way more bullish priority fee growth and obviously AQAv2 fees than anything HIP4 related.
At the end of the day, none of what he said is new information. I always have stated in my $DRV bullposts that they will not maintain their current 90%+ market share in 2027. This is an entire primitive that does quadrillions of dollars in volume in TradFi. The on chain pie will grow massively. There will inevitably be more competition for that pie. $DRV could lose half their market share to @Lighter_xyz and @HyperliquidX and still be cheap here at these prices when on chain options volume 10x's or more.
I'd also like to point out the irony that I'm long $HYPE and $LIT calls on @DeriveXYZ right now, and I still can't long $DRV perps on Lighter or Hyperliquid.
I just refuse to subscribe to this notion that I should sell a phenomenal asset today because maybe there will be competition tomorrow, or next month, or next year. When they have live products, I'll reaccess the situation. Until then, competing against non-existent products that are just presumed to be superior is an unfair standard that seemingly only $DRV gets held to, and irrational selloffs like today, especially based off misleading headlines, are just better entries for me in the long run.
@koolkrypto223, curious if this changes your thesis on base:0x9d0e8f5b25384c7310cb8c6ae32c8fbeb645d083 in the longterm.
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I've had 100+ people dm me asking for trading tips, what indicators I use, what "system" I use etc
I wish so badly that there was some secret system or tool I could tell (or sell 😏) you, but the real answer is extremely disappointing.
On my @HyperliquidX account, I don't use special custom indicators. I don't set stop losses or have predefined R:R, I don't use automation or algos, I don't know what ICT stands for, I don't look at order flow, I don't have a 16 screen setup I spend all day looking at, I don't draw trendlines or do TA.
This is pure discretionary click trading. I have the stock 2 moving averages and volume as my indicators. I trade off a laptop for probably an hour a day. I'm not long only but mostly longs and hedges for spot. I have a relatively low ratio of volume traded to PNL.
My "system" is only trading less than a dozen coins I fundamentally and deeply understand. I research obsessively and only take trade setups where I think there's clear edge or informational asymmetry. I've staked 100,000 $HYPE since TGE for fee discounts.
I only long coins that I think are fundamentally underpriced and would be happy to become a "community member" on. I set limit bids where I think loser 🏳️🌈🐻 will panic sell them, and I set limit asks where I think suckers will fomo buy them.
My "system" is probably less intricate or sophisticated than most of yours.
My only advice is that you should probably be trading way less, and reading way more. DefiLlama pages, governance proposals, macro news, interviews with founders, community TG/Discords.
You can't trade your way out of bad idea generation, but you can make up for poor execution with good ideas.
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papertrade launch details
papertrade is a fair launched smart contract exchange built on the hyperevm blockchain. as a fully onchain protocol, papertrade has significant advantages - decentralization, reliability, composability, transparency. it also has the usual onchain constraint - throughput. trades on papertrade are atomic opens/closes with no orderbook, so during normal trading sessions congestion will not be an issue. however, during launch we expect extreme chain congestion.
10.08.2026 - phase zero: predeposit only
two days before live trading begins, papertrade.xyz will open for user deposits. trading will be paused during this period. this allows separation of the deposit and account creation transactions from live trading. if a user does not complete these steps, they are likely to face long delays during launch, as active trading will be heavily prioritized over deposit processing. there is no further advantage to depositing earlier during this phase.
10.10.2026 - phase one: frontend only live trading
in order to prevent an onchain race and remove the incentive skew that mev creates, all transactions during the launch must go through the papertrade.xyz frontend, using the whitelisted relayers. the contract itself will not be open for direct interaction during this phase. this ensures that real frontend users are the first participants, flattening the technical skill curve as far as is appropriate.
during this phase, all trader activity on papertrade lives in an intent system, and carries a priority weighting. in almost all cases this ordering is done by transaction type and notional value, and is always indiscriminate of user/account. for instance, liquidations are more important than position opens and this is reflected in both activity types' respective weightings. that said the exact mechanics and weightings of the relayer intent system are adaptive, and will change over time as trader activity is processed. trades can be cancelled while still pending within the relayer intent system.
the paper token will begin minting on user losses at the start of live trading, from an initial supply of 0. it will not be transferable at the start beyond staking and unstaking, in order to encourage trading adoption and mitigate onchain congestion.
after launch - phase 2: open contract
once the launch congestion has passed and there is no longer any risk of mev wars, the papertrade smart contract will open up to everyone, allowing any human, contract or agent to write and receive an onchain atomic position. at this point papertrade becomes a fully decentralized, composable onchain liquidity primitive.
after launch - phase 3: builder codes
builder codes allow any frontend or router to receive the 1% frontend fee by sending trades to the papertrade smart contract, further decentralizing the protocol and incentivizing integration.
after launch - phase 4: token transferrability
at launch, paper will not be transferable. this is to encourage accumulation through trading participation and reduce onchain congestion load. transfers will be enabled after a sufficient period of time has passed.
even with this staged rollout, the launch congestion will be significant. expect lengthy confirmation delays during launch especially for smaller notional trades. predeposit if you want to trade at launch for the best chance at a smooth experience.
learn more about how papertrade works at: docs.papertrade.xyz/
many false dichotomies around this
you can't reap the benefits of being "early" if you're not willing to stomach the path it requires
many new folks don't get how this works, so a rough explanation is in order, as cross-chain stuff often comes up in crypto
an imperfect but useful analogy: near intents is to near what hyperunit is to hyperliquid
that is, it is not the chain itself, but a cross-chain protocol that augments the chain -- you can think of it as a collection of bridges + some other shit. but it is not part of consensus
a cross-chain protocol, for all chains, will always have more trust assumptions than the underlying chain -- unit for example also has OFAC screening as does pretty much anything of this nature
(your favorite defi or trading app on any chain also almost certainly fits this and even some validators, with few exceptions)
this is almost always true for anything that's not the main chain itself, as most cross-chain protocols are generally secured by MPC networks (or multisigs) and MPC clusters are by definition smaller than core validator clusters
and this remains true of all connective tissue, e.g., recall how Arbitrum multisig froze the funds of NK hacker a few months ago
that of course did not affect the "moneyness" of Ethereum as that is Arbitrum and not ETH on Ethereum itself
same thing here
I am not aware of any system that can function much differently on risk parameters today (though I can think of a few who lie about it who get called out by zach every few months)
the aspiration of course is that over time MPC networks (or multisig governance in the case of rollups) get decentralized enough to reduce the concentration of influence and minimize it to only provable bug patches and asymptotically zero human judgement
that is fundamentally what you are underwriting
this is a big reason why Solana seeks to concentrate everything internally on a giant chain so that bridge trust risk is minimized (though in practice, this is only half the picture since for example RWAs fundamentally have control authority with the issuer itself, that's why USDT can be frozen on any chain)
so, there are three paths here:
i) you transact on the main chain itself with only the native asset of the chain, i.e ZEC on Zcash, BTC on Bitcoin, SOL on Solana
this is maximal risk reduction, but obviously limiting for anything beyond SoV or payments
ii) you do your bridging via CEXes
fine, but very large tradeoffs for asset selection, withdrawal/deposit limits, KYC, accessibility, privacy and you get way worse freezing/trust problems
iii) you do your bridging via crypto-native protocols that are relatively less decentralized than an entire blockchain itself but are improving security and decentralization constantly, especially against CEXes
for crypto to become a truly planetary economy, iii) must work. this is not a choice, it's just a matter of who wins that segment
but the only way iii) can work is if such protocols survive long enough to not get shut down by the feds because then the exchanges will default win and that aspirational future for crypto will be entirely lost
a valid criticism here is that this should have already been maximally decentralized already, but ofc that comes with its own tradeoffs like being too slow to patch bugs or add features in a relatively nascent stage
again, your job is underwriting the execution risk. and you must do so while understanding the parts at play
Crypto space really has a choice - grow the f up or get sidelined with random regulations.
Saying we can not do anything when we are programming decentralized system is just untrue.
Banks run AI for fraud detection but are inherently centralized and require KYC. At the same time KYC doesn't solve any of real problems as we know.
We have better data and talent to create systems that don't require KYC and actually deter criminals while giving full freedom to real users.
By working together we can totally weed out crypto of criminal activity. Criminal TAM is way smaller than all of economy moving onchain we are targeting.
Decentralization != disorganization
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Derive just had its biggest notional week ever. And onchain options are just getting started.
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Interesting discourse around the remaining $HYPE earmarked as rewards/community and a S3 airdrop. My take:
1. Jeff owes us nothing. Full stop, I'd feel zero betrayal if I never earned another free $HYPE. I understand that I'm biased as a large holder who already received a large airdrop, but airdrops are meant to be discretionary onboarding/bootstraping mechanisms, not charities. Anything above 0% is more than we'd get in TradFi.
2. Continuing from above, more distributions should only be done if they can reasonably be considered to be accretive to current tokenholders/revenue/token price. @hyunsujung_ made a very good point recently that it's entirely reasonable to think even just a 1% supply airdrop, which is already larger than most other tokens, could absolutely generate more revenue than it costs if done properly.
3. That said, @HyperliquidX is dominating RWA and crypto perps right now. They don't seem interested in vanilla options yet, HIP4 seems a bit shelved at the moment, and the HyperEVM has gotten absolutely zero love. Using incentives for something that people are already choosing to use for free seems sub-optimal. Generating new revenue lines, attracting new consumer bases, and cementing valuable partnerships could be accretive; subsidizing wash trading under the guise of "decentralization" or keeping promises is pointless.
4. Current $HYPE holders are WAY more important than "decentralization" theatre. Like any equity, they have a responsibility to maximize tokenholder value. That doesn't mean they can't choose to sacrifice some short term supply for longer term gains, but decentralization for the sake of decentralization means nothing if it means current $HYPE holders lose confidence. This has been at least part of the reason $ETH has suffered. The $ETH foundation has generally seemed to disregard token price in favour of a longer term vision towards decentralization. For better or worse, strong token price is the best onboarding mechanism.
TLDR: I would be shocked if the rewards are used for just 40 years of staking emissions, I would be shocked if more than a percent or two was ever emitted in a single year. Probably ends up being somewhere in between, and we should all trust Jeff and team to use the rewards to strengthen the protocol and not expect charity. I highly doubt intentionally trying to farm S3 is profitable right now, just use the platform organically and be pleasantly surprised if you get something. If you really do want to maximize your potential but unlikely future airdrop, think of what business lines they'd want to subsidize, so possibly HIP4/HyperEVM, though still very unlikely.
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1/ Huge respect for Dragonfly continuing to invest in the bear market.
But I'm morally obliged to call out sketchy projects gaining momentum.
As a community we must preempt large scale implosions like #FTX or #LUNA that set the industry back years
Bitget may be the next FTX 🧵
I'm thrilled to announce @dragonflyvc's investment in @BitgetGlobal.
Bitget is making crypto more accessible with its innovative derivatives products and a user-centric approach, and we're proud to support their mission and growth.
theblock.co/post/224702/drag…
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with less capital raised than many of these teams and competitive numbers, i can still say we’ve barely scratched the surface with legend.
some great companies on this list. awesome to already be in the same arena less than 6 months from launch.
Very proud of our team for executing on @legendtrade 's growth the past few months.
They're killing it across multiple channels with a small but deadly team of only 6, with a fraction of capital of basically everyone else on this list (we've raised $5M total, vs the tens of hundreds of millions raised by others here.)
Onwards, onwards.
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Lengthy update to my $DRV bull thesis incoming, but
TLDR:
Price has doubled to $0.08 since my first post and I'm still looking to accumulate more at this price level.
That's virtually never the case in crypto. Candidly, as bullish as I am on $HYPE, I'm absolutely looking to trim some of my position if it were to quickly run up to $70 because the bull case just wouldn't be the same at that valuation. It's fees/mcap ratio would go from fair value territory to highly speculative.
The valuation framework I apply to most coins can be succinctly summed up by four questions:
1. The classic "Can I see this doubling, and can the guy buying it from me also justify it doubling?".
$DRV currently sits ~$100m FDV. My base case is $250-500m FDV, and I think there's a reasonable path to $1bn+ FDV over a 1-2 year time horizon. Buying here is still deep value territory by every metric. It's annualizing about $2.5m in fee revenue YTD, which puts it in the same ballpark as @Hyperliquid on a fee/FDV ratio (so significantly better than 99% of other coins). The key difference get's to my next question...
2. What's it's valuation relative to it's total addressable market (TAM)?
While the TAM for on chain perps is massive, $HYPE valuation already reflects that. @DeriveXYZ occupies a similar, arguably even stronger, monopoly status in the on chain options market. $HYPE now trades at 300x the valuation of $DRV, and I do not think on chain perps have 300x the TAM of on chain options.
Deribit does about 2x the options volume of OKX and is valued at ~10% ($2.9bn valuation when Deribit was acquired by Coinbase vs $25bn valuation for OKX on the recent ICE investment). Acknowledging different market conditions for those valuations, I still think it's conservative to say crypto perps only have a 25-50x larger TAM than options. If the on chain perp dex market is currently worth ~$40bn, I feel very comfortable saying on the on chain options protocols market can be worth ~$1bn. And @DeriveXYZ is 80-90% of it.
3. If my thesis is correct, does the token actually stand to benefit?
Surprisingly important question in an industry full of useless governance coins with no value accrual. 🤡
The $DRV token is the only form of equity for @DeriveXYZ. No dual equity structure here. Currently doing 25% buybacks, which I actually think is the correct percentage at this stage of development. The market is not properly pricing in the current level of fee growth, and it is especially not pricing in the potential of that buyback % increasing over time.
The team tokens don't even vest until certain metrics are hit, a practice I'd like to see the rest of the industry adopt.
I feel comfortable in saying that $DRV token price will increase commensurate with Derive's metrics.
4. What's the catch? Why am I right and the market is wrong? What do I know that other's don't?
Here are the other points of my thesis that I think are being mispriced by the market:
The nature of the opportunity here is timing and attention. All crypto valuations are highly depressed (or simply finding fair value justifiably much lower). This is not the only 5-10x candidate out there right now. There's just no eyes on it and not enough money looking to invest in liquid tokens.
On chain options used to have a terrible UI/UX. Not enough people know how to use RFQ (request for quote) and they think there is no liquidity because they're only setting limit orders in the order book. @DeriveXYZ is accomodating massive size via their RFQ system. You can see massive positions getting filled. As more people understand this, adoption is likely to skyrocket.
In the same way that @HyperliquidX at it's core is part regulatory arbitrage (giving US traders access to perps when they couldn't get Binance/OKX/Bybit accounts), @DeriveXYZ is connecting you directly with top OTC desks that would never deal with you directly. There is a huge moat in doing all the BD work to provide users this access.
Perps volume and OI on @DeriveXYZ HAVE to scale with increased options volume and OI. Market makers need to hedge their positions on app to benefit from cross margining and netting of risk. If I buy 100 $BTC calls, the maker that sold them to me needs to hedge that delta via an offsetting perps position. It is massively advantageous, if not necessary, for them to do this on @DeriveXYZ. This is why there's $1bn $BTC OI on Deribit perps. @HyperliquidX is obviously the premier and superior perps dex, but don't underestimate @DeriveXYZ perps volume on $BTC, $ETH, $SOL, and $HYPE going forward. In a world of useless perp dexes getting wash trade volume, they are positioned to get meaningful and durable perps flow. Market is absolutely not pricing any perps adoption growth for them.
On chain forms of yield and carry are drying up. @ethena Funding rate arb, @pendle_fi PT token looping, perps dex point farming, it's all barely above the risk free rate. All of these forms of excess yield were always destined to dry up. The only meaningful way to generate excess yield will be taking the risk and selling volatility. This is why $IBIT options do so much volume. Institutions love harvesting vol premium. Whether they know it or not, all @Uniswap or @aeroxyz LP's are just selling volatility for yield. I'd argue most of them are being wildly undercompensated for the volatility they are selling. Options are the correct and only way to express these views, and more and more teams will try to productionize options into a more pleasant UI/UX for users looking to generate income against their crypto at the expense of taking on that volatility.
Obviously I'm biased and I own some $DRV. But it's objectively shaping up to be one of the best growth stories of 2026. Don't look a gift fire horse in the mouth; $DRV is still a steal at this level.
Bought $DRV at $0.04
Had poked around with the platform since the Lyra days, but now with $HYPE options live, it's been great to use. I think this environment for $HYPE is particularly well suited to options, and you can get filled competitively in size with their RFQ platform.
I'm a big believer in trying everything early and owning what I like find actually useful, which has led me to a lot of gems early in the past ( $GMX, $PENDLE, $HYPE).
@DeriveXYZ has a very close UI/UX to Deribit, a wide variety of yield bearing collateral and interest on USDC collateral, portfolio margin. Key to getting filled in size is to just ping their team and use the RFQ.
I definitely don't think on chain options have the same potential TAM as on chain perps (Deribit acquired for only $2.9bn), but the clear industry leader in on chain options is trading mostly liquid at $60-70m FDV with 25% buybacks enabled and a 2x better annualized fee/FDV ratio than @Hyperliquid (16.4x FDV/fee vs 34.6 FDV/fee for $HYPE).
Kinda feels like a hidden gem to me. Happy with a 5x to a measly 1% of $HYPE FDV.
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Pump fun, Stonk fun, the war between them, and why I think STONK is a better investment going forward.
If you're one of the ten people active in crypto right now, you've probably seen a lot of hullabaloo on the timeline about these platforms
A critical mass of people are coming out to denounce pump, and I want to explain what's going on, and I want to do so purely from an investment perspective, as someone that recently sold the last of his PUMP tokens for solana:6GmAFSYs4gk3FDao5FzzySQpPZaWsa4rUJHacpMpUNgx
I'm going to talk about:
- Why PUMP feels like ETH during ETH's 2024 underperformance
- The token model
- Cultural issues (strictly related to price premium)
- Solana's incentives for which platform succeeds
(None of this is financial advice, this is purely my own views, which may be in parts inaccurate or flawed, but represent my best understanding of things)
(Warning: Long post)
The comparison to ETH:
PUMP, the token, this past bear market reminds me a lot of Ethereum during the 2022-2023 bear market:
ETH had a massive mcap, and that was based on:
The assumption that it was, and *would remain* the only show in town, having defeated too many "ETH killer" alternative L1s to count (EOS, Tezos, etc). "This time isn't different" heavily favored ETH continuing its dominance, and after two cycles (nearly a decade) of trivially swatting away competitors, it justified its valuation.
The air was thick with assumption-based complacency around this. "Eth 2k -> 20k" became a meme, which was eventually replaced by "10k", then "frontrun 10k at 8k", followed by "6k is ok", followed by Eth, very disappointingly, barely sweeping its previous cycle highs.
Then Solana persisted its development, refinement, and app ecosystem, and exploded. It looked and felt amazing to use, and began the cycle new, cheap, and in public, and *CRITICALLY*, enabling people who believed early to enjoy all of its token's upside. Not only was it "this feels good to use, and makes sense to me", but also had organic community-based reinforcement via "I was allowed to get a big piece of the pie early, and will do well alongside the platform".
It seemed impossible, and its resurgence seemed fleeting, until it absolutely ate eth's lunch, moving up something like nearly 40x from the bottom.
PUMP is similar - it was early to the bonding curve (a novel and revolutionary product), it built a massive war chest, and it defended its moat aggressively, defeating numerous "alt token launch platforms" (Bonk, Moonshot, Jup, Bags, etc).
I think there's a similar sense of complacency around PUMP continuing to dominate the space, and that's slowly being shattered by RH chain + Pons, and Stonk Fun on Solana; both platforms finding runaway PMF, and *CRITICALLY*, bringing its users along for the ride with fair, public launches, for as cheap as you wanted it, as early as you found it. (I think both platforms do well, respectively, alongside each other, but that's another story).
The Token Model:
PUMP was so dominant and unrivaled that it could afford to, despite absolutely CRUSHING it on industry-leading fees and building a massive war chest (that persisted for many, many quarters in a row) do a public sale of tokens at a 4 billion dollar valuation to raise nearly a billion additional dollars. Many people argued "hey this isn't necessary", or "hey, you guys are sitting on a mountain of capital, why not do an airdrop? this is the opposite of that. do you really need to squeeze more money?
But because they had crushed all competition, there really was no alternative or "protest vote" platform to move to. And also because of that, the sale was a huge success.
The problem with this:
There are over a billion dollars locked up in a non-egalitarian, "previous-era" VC model, which creates pressure on supply. They do buy-back and burn with a substantial amount of fees in a way that's compelling, but these two forces are at odds. I believe the buybacks+burns are happening (it would be a massive scandal if they weren't), but PUMP's cultural issues and trust deficit (more on that later) had a lot of people believing even the stated buybacks were fugazi.
For solana:6GmAFSYs4gk3FDao5FzzySQpPZaWsa4rUJHacpMpUNgx and Stonk fun, they launched in the post-Hyperliquid era of Egalitarianism, where the idea is "our platform will do better if we let the public come along for the ride as early as possible. If we win, they win, and vice versa. Let's win together, and use the good will generated and success people feel to create a PR + adoption-adherence flywheel".
Stonk fun followed this, and said "Let's make 100% of supply available on day 1, for virtually free. And then rather than hoarding fees, let's use those fees to buy back and burn our token, and also buy the top ecosystem tokens, so holders of Stonk Fun launches also win."
This creates a recursive loop of "Buy something on Stonk Fun, fees go to buying back + burning the STONK token, and also the project you just bought goes up too. Other people see this happening, and they rush to (very happily) take part, and enjoy the sense of community that builds when there's a mechanistic PVE setup the rewards holding a few tokens, rather than rotating endlessly.
I, for example, kicked tires on STONK and bought some in late August for 18 million mcap, which is a comically deep value for a major platform. This is how egalitarian launches work, though - all tokens are circulating, rather than a company or group of VCs putting 5% of the float out (driving up the FDV to insane levels), and then slamming sells on your head with the 95% they reserved in a scrooge mcduck-style vault, for months-years. The token price oftentimes goes sideways, while mcap balloons -- basically a public ledger of how fucked over you got. This same phenomenon is what lead to memecoin populism in late 2023 - a rebellion again this sort of token launch, but that's another story.
Additionally, Stonk Fun not only offers virtually unrivaled access to RWA (stock) pairs, but reflection, or "yield" tokens as they're coming to be known, allow setups that, rather than seeing fees go straight to a company, reward long term holders with the right-side of a pair (like KNOTS/STONK, a memecoin that pays out stonk to holders). This further incentivizes PVE holding, and brings us back to a calmer, happier, more community-oriented era of memecoin trading.
Pump's launch today is a reactionary version of this, where they re-route the modest amount of "creator fees" that accrue to holders, which feels like a cynical bolt-on to try to claw back much of the attention and foothold it's lost, but mechansitically, doesn't come nearly close to what's happening (and the excitement around it) on Stonk Fun, or PONS for that matter.
Cultural Issues:
Pump fun has allegations of deceit/double-promises ("airdrop soon!"), dropping its buyback/burn fees without feedback or warning, bankrolling antisocial behavior (remember the bagworking 'disrupt sporting events' meta? the 'poor/desperate third worlders forehead tattoo' bounty product?), undisclosed paid partnerships and deals, and probably worst of all:
(allegedly) Directing large groups of insiders/associates to bully, intimidate, harass, and humiliate anyone that show dissent or disagreement with them on the timeline. To the point where people even I talk to directly have silently disagreed with Pump, or wanted to support another network, but have voiced a real and genuine fear of speaking out, pointing to examples of multi-month harassment campaigns directed at them. I don't have smoking gun proof that this is true, but these allegations are everywhere, and have persisted for a long time. This sort of fear-based information space tactic is straight out of the playbook of totalitarian societies, and is just awful. Even under a recent post of mine, a pump fun payrolee quietely told me that they were directed to delete their comment on my post.
Yikes.
I've looked past that, because I, as an investor (read: hypocritical pig) am in crypto to make money, and Pump generates massive fees, but *as an investor*, it's a concern because the above is a big part of the fact that their *token* has a price appreciation drag in the form of a *trust deficit*, rather than a *trust premium*, where a token trades at above what it'd normally be valued, based on the org behind it being proactive and egalitarian (see: hyperliquid/jeff)
I think we've reached a point lately, where enough people have seen Stonk Fun get to stock/memefi/yield token pairs early enough, and have enough fees/growth, and let people get as much of the pie as early as possible to enjoy the success,
That people aren't afraid to speak out anymore. And once there's a critical mass, the fear of reprisal diminishes, because Pump simply doesn't have the breadth or resources to target and attack that many people concurrently. Stonk fun vs Pump fun feels like onchain arab spring/star wars/berlin wall falling, metaphorically, in terms of what I'm seeing on the timeline.
Which leads me to the next point --
Solana's incentive for which platform succeeds:
Solana has done a lot over the past few years in terms of creating industry-best UX, speed, and scale. It's, in my mind (as a former Eth maxi), the best blank canvas we have for general purpose activity in crypto. But it has two principle complaints, both of which were/are valid:
1) Tokenomics (Inflation is bad)
This has been largely addressed + ameliorated with recent SIMDs, where disinflation was doubled, and more Sol gets burned
2) Culture Rot
Pump Fun's RUNAWAY past success as Sol's #1 fee-generating app put Solana in a position where they had no other choice but to hitch their wagon to PUMP. I empathize with that.
However, Sol's nascent success in RWAs and a half dozen other verticals has given them a hopeful path increasing optionality for fee diversification,
and now, Stonk Fun has come along and found real PMF in the form of a new/exciting set of primitives (and a massive userbase that gets to enjoy the upside of Stonk Fun's success as if they were all day-1 investors or employees at the company!), and a massive social moat via community/goodwill.
The mechanisms of the platform incentivize "buy and hold" PVE, rather than adrenaline-soaked PVP rotational jungle war. It's a fee-generating MONSTER, and those fees look sustainable. It provides SOL with AMM diversity, rather than the vertical integration at Pump.
And critically - stonk fun doing well directly addresses the "Trust Deficit" valuation drag on SOL (the token) that has spilled over from the cultural dominance/fee dominance of Pump Fun.
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I've said enough here, but do need to say this - I don't "hate" pump fun. As a token holder, I've simply been disappointed and frustrated. The hope was always (and still is) that they'd just clean up their act a little bit, and they (and token holders) *and* solana could all win. But it just doesn't seem to be happening. If anything, the culture of cynical reactionary product/PR/comms seems to be getting slightly worse as they feel cornered. I'd like to see them do better, and go on to succeed, and compete on the merit of excellent product UX + liquidity, and genuinely wish them the best.
So no, I don't "hate" them, I don't really think about them, or anyone in crypto at all. Crypto to me is simply a lever to generate wealth. And because of all of the above, though this may change down the road, I'm shifting my investment over to to Stonk Fun for the foreseeable future.
Because Doug Funnie Said So,
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I spent the past few weeks digging into everything that goes wrong with Stripe webhook delivery. I tried a lot of existing solutions, and while each one covers a piece of the problem, none of them cover every place it can go wrong.
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1/ Controversial take: hard work is more important than smart work.
It's a myth that we only have a few hours of good creative work per day. Train yourself to grind long hours first. You will surprise yourself. The work naturally become higher quality, less distracted.
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so should we stop trying? i guess your answer would be “no”. which brings us back to where it all started and this will explain “the levels” you’ve just mentioned.
the idea that because you can build with AI as a idea guy/girl doesn’t really equate to building a successful product that people would pay for in the market.
this is where the levels comes in. if you already do the technicalities yourself, you need more than just building a website for solution to people’s problems, or an app, or a automation bot or whatever’s you may think of.
it’s one thing to build, it’s another thing to be able to sell a solution. market research, demand e.t.c because an idea is cool doesn’t mean people are willing to pay to use it. there’s culture, there’s everything else. some people would rather do something the traditional way than pay to go use some fancy new website.
also why should someone use your shit when there’s every other things. what makes you the better one?
you need a team (which is the levels). people who have a team beyond the building usually are able to win and sell. or if you have the ability to do both. build and sell (still above a mid levels)
which means, the more you try, the more you get closer to building a unique solution people eventually use.
again, everyone can’t build. endless possibilities with AI. choose where you can come in and stay laser focused.
again, everyone can’t understand how to use/build with AI.
again, the reason why you feel like it’s hard is because you’re playing the game with people who are already in the know. they will take your idea and execute better.
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TradeXYZ is buying HYPE. Some thoughts and an updated bull case on HYPE:
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A quick recap of my prior concerns:
- Hyperliquid hasn't actually made much progress toward being a credibly neutral exchange. Almost all volume runs through their own app, and the only two deployers with significant volume are Hyperliquid and TradeXYZ.
- Hyperliquid owning the brokerage and exchange layer comes with obvious conflicts of interest. Great for crime, bad for scaling a credibly neutral business. Don’t think that one requires more elaboration
- If the economic value of Hyperliquid flows entirely to two parties, one of which might control 95%+ volume very soon, that creates a concentrated risk that needs to be acknowledged. Same as any other business.
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My bull case for HYPE:
The bull case has always been that Hyperliquid would become a credibly neutral exchange layer for other incredible teams to build on top of. It would also make sense that we value HYPE like other blockchains - based on the economic value it produces, which Hyperliquid has a much take rate on than any other blockchain.
TradeXYZ has obviously done a fantastic job here building around this, and RWA perps have a massive potential, probably 10-100x greater than what we’ve seen on Hyperliquid in just the next few years. I’m incredibly excited about the work @sershokunin and @tradexyz team are doing and grateful that we have builders like them in crypto.
To be clear, it is NOT greedy or corrupt for TradeXYZ to want to maximize profit. Hyperliquid is not a communist society, every builder should feel entitled to a business outcome where they generate as much value as they can.
But if the economic value is so concentrated by a single company, or by Hyperliquid acting as a broker on their own exchange, that does not produce the credibly neutral outcome I am so excited about.
Was TradeXYZ unfairly advantaged to win HIP3? Maybe. Does it matter? Not really. None of the other HIP3 operators had the chops or creativity to win, they were too busy paying $50k for the 5th TSLA ticker. But the outcome where we have 5-10 unicorns building on top of Hyperliquid will require moving in a more credibly neutral direction, and that takes work to get to from where we are at today. And I have conviction in the Hyperliquid team to get us there.
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What does TradeXYZ buying HYPE mean:
My read on this (and HL lifting growth-mode for single name tickers) is both teams are uber-focused on growing Hyperliquid's RWA perps multiples from where we are today. In tandem with this goal, I will be monitoring progress on Hyperliquid becoming more credibly neutral across all their present and future products.
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