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Apeksha Kothari retweeted
The future for learning is bright
What happens when you put together interactive diagrams + conversational AI tutor? I had to give it a try with Ello.
So cool to see all the ways in which kids be learning about the world. Huge props to @Aprilzz423 for making this beautiful skill. :)
Apeksha Kothari retweeted
Assorted things I've been mulling over regarding agents in the economy:
⢠Companies are in some sense the original superintelligence. It's often the case that they can use their amortized cognitive surplus to advance their interests against those of certain consumers: relative to the optimization capacity of companies, consumers can be inattentive, underinformed, irrational, etc. (Think, say, of some of the classic insurance upsells at the end of a booking process, which is typically priced substantially above what a regular policy would cost.) Herbert Simon introduced the idea of bounded rationality, and firms often end up benefiting from it. Thanks to personal agents, we will probably get somewhat more rational in how we engage with companies.
⢠How exactly will outcomes change? Well, certain kinds of price discrimination will work less well (how do coupons work if every agent hunts fastidiously for them?), and certain kinds of customer cross-subsidy will change (today, people who forget to cancel subscriptions subsidize those who don't). Taken across the economy as a whole, I'm not sure what the incidence of all of this will be.
⢠In corporate strategy, people have long debated the relative importance of distribution and product quality. Perhaps you've made something better, but does anyone know about it? Won't people just continue to buy the ACME Corp Mousetraps? Personal agents will, I think, act as a kind of structural subsidy for product quality. How would markets look different if individuals always spent at least 10 hours researching their purchases? On the margin, focusing on making a product better is, I think, going to become a more effective strategy for companies. This is good!
⢠It true, a corollary is that information about product quality will become more important and impactful. Today, most people have very limited ability to aggregate and integrate such data, but agents will have insatiable thirst for such signals. (It's often said that data is becoming more valuable because it helps in the training of models. That's obviously true, but I think there's a secondary way in which it's more valuable simply as a complement to cheaper intelligence.)
⢠A big question is whether agents will increase superstar effects (rational agents all settle on the same product) or increase dispersion (because everyone has slightly different tastes and preferences, which agents are good at eliciting, finally overcoming the artificial clustering we've been subjected to).
⢠Many internet companies have monetized demand routing, which is in turn often predicated on short attention spans. "I'll click on the first thing I see." This has led to some amount of inefficiency, as companies try to propitiate capricious ranking algorithms and incur various placement fees. It's not all deadweight loss (willingness to pay is itself a kind of signal, which is valuable to buyers), but it's not great. How will the nature and value of this routing change in a world of personal agents? I don't know the answer, but I think that the effects might be pretty big.
⢠Much of what I'm writing hinges on the assumption that personal agents will be on the consumer's side. I suspect that that will be the winning strategy, but whether it's true, and what it means to be true, involves a lot of other questions.
Taken as a whole, the market is a massively parallelized, decentralized, and highly imperfect value attribution machine, and, taking stock of all of the effects, it seems to me that the quality point may well be the biggest: that agents will change the nature of the backpropagation such that the rewards for better products increase. Maybe this is too optimistic, but I suspect (and hope) that companies that make things that they're proud of will feel that the universe is a little more partisan in their favor.
Apeksha Kothari retweeted
Starting today, there's a free version of Ello for every kid, and there's no more waitlist.
Ello is an AI teacher that listens to your child and teaches reading and math in real time. K-2, in the US and Kenya.
Sooo excited with whatâs cooking at @LearnWithEllo this week
Got inspired by 5.5 graphics this weekend and built a prototype of on-the-fly interactive explainers for kids in Ello.
This is my 7 year old self's dream come true!
Ask Ello a question: chat for 30 seconds while it makes you a diagram to zoom in on the exact thing you're curious about.
Your Ello can control the animation steps and walk through it interactively. Then, she suggests we make a book about the topic you're curious about and turn this into a reading lesson, why not.
Managed to get generation time down to about 30-40s and cost to roughly 10¢ per generation at list price, which makes it actually viable to bring this to millions of curious minds at scale.
And ofc you can figure out the most common topics kids ask about and cache-and-personalize to have more impressive graphics for lower time and cost.
Diamond age is here. The future for curious kids is bright!
My current indicator of AI supremacy is pitting my Indian dadâs negotiation skills vs Instinct.
So far heâs winningâŚ
Just called and got significant discounts on published rates đ
Apeksha Kothari retweeted
When I went through YC, I was 6 months pregnant with my second kid.
I didnât have the option of ânot mentioning it.â
I walked in as a 40-year-old child psychologist in a sea of young engineers. A mom with a 5-year-old at home, flying DC to SF every week.
I looked (and initially felt) exactly as out of place as I was.
My clearest memory of interview day isnât the YC partners. Itâs the Halloween makeup instructions I left my husband.
For a long time I introduced myself like an apology: the Silicon Valley outsider, the clinician, the mom.
I donât anymore. I wasnât there in spite of being a mom and a psychologist. I was there because of it.
I had just spent twenty years with the actual user while everyone else was still trying to figure theirs out.
My daughterâs struggle learning to read is the reason Ello exists.
We didnât start by asking what AI could do. We started by asking what kids actually needed.
Yes, the time math is brutal. But kids also answered the only question that matters: what is the time for?
Six years in, being parents is a win for the company. A lot of us at Ello have kids. We also work insanely hard.
It brings a purpose you canât fake.
I wanted to share this for anyone reading from an unconventional background who looks at the norm, and quietly decides startups arenât for them.
They are exactly for you.
Apeksha Kothari retweeted
Everyone's asking what AI can do for their job.
We asked if it could teach a 6-year-old.
Introducing Ello 2.0: reading, math & more for ages 4-9. Free tier for all.
If we want AI to force-multiply humanity, let's start with teaching our youngest.
Apeksha Kothari retweeted
Most delightful 404 page on the internet?
ello.com/404
Currently getting served ads on meta from folks wanting to make meta ads for me.
Itâs all very meta.
Apeksha Kothari retweeted
We got a lot of people asking about how we built Elloâs tutor to achieve sub second latency. The architecture behind this was a real technical challenge.
Our tutor steers the UX in real time and makes complex decisions on the fly, so it operates more like a coding agent. However, the standard tool-use loop doesnât work here.
"Generate a call, execute it, feed the result back, generate again" stacks up to 3-4 seconds of dead air between turns. Fine for a coding agent. Fatal for a conversation with a first grader.
Here's a deeper look at how we actually built it. â at San Francisco, CA
Apeksha Kothari retweeted
Your child is one of a kind. Their learning should be too.
Say hello to @LearnWithEllo , the world's most advanced AI reading & math teacher for children aged 4â9 đ Team @newgenre_studio partnered with Ello on their latest brand identity & website đŤś
Apeksha Kothari retweeted
I've seen this team's heart and rigor up close, and Ello 2.0 is exactly what that combination produces. Reading, math, and more... and a free tier for all. This is what AI for good actually looks like! Let's go, Ello 2.0!!!
Funny you say that.
Launched today ⨠:
xitter.cf/CatalinVoss/status/207âŚ
Apeksha Kothari retweeted
Ello has been the best learn-to-read software for years
It's now significantly better and expanded for more subjects
Apeksha Kothari retweeted
So excited to see this out! As an advisor to @LearnWithEllo (and friend to human gems @CatalinVoss @t_sayer for years), I've had the privilege of watching Ello carefully orchestrate thoughtful design, learning sciences, and AI engineering. Psyched to see where Ello 2.0 goes.
Apeksha Kothari retweeted
Finally live!
AI teaching built around your child â¤ď¸
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