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Saturday night, keeping the fire burning. – at Washington, USA
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I thought I had it bad... A Washington couple says they’ve spent nearly $300,000 on regulatory requirements and still can’t build their home. Now the demand includes permanently restricting 44 acres of their own land, according to AgWeb (link in the first comment). Tyler and Wendy Chambers bought 66 acres of residentially zoned land near Wenatchee in 2021. They wanted a house, a barn and a small orchard, with the possibility of their children or grandchildren building there someday. They say they consulted county planners, hired professionals and initially received the go-ahead. Then came a stop-work order and repeated studies covering everything from stormwater and soil to spotted owls. The article reports that the requirements eventually included a permanent deed restriction on 44.2 acres, roughly two-thirds of their property. That means restricting the land’s use, not handing over ownership. Chambers says they’re still paying $3,000 a month while unable to proceed. The county official named in the article did not respond to the reporter’s interview request. There are questions she should answer, starting with why this much land must be restricted for this project. People should be able to find out what building on their property will require before spending their savings trying to get permission. How much would you spend before giving up on land you already own?
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In 2021, 59-year-old Tyler Chambers bought 66 acres outside Wenatchee in Chelan County, Washington. It was zoned residential, had paved road access, and had power and water connected. He simply wanted to build a home, a barn, and an orchard for his family. ​When he started moving dirt to prep the homesite, a neighbor who was an active county commissioner and former land trust director filed a complaint. Even though code enforcement originally cleared the work, county planning leadership changed, and a stop-work order was slapped on the property. ​What followed was a five-year bureaucratic nightmare: ​The SEPA Trap: The county subjected his single-family home to a State Environmental Policy Act review a grueling process normally reserved for major subdivisions and commercial developments. ​The $300,000 Bleed: Chambers was forced to pay for endless expert reports: geotechnical core drilling across his hillsides, stormwater studies, and wildlife assessments for spotted owls, golden eagles, deer, and shrubsteppe. ​The Ultimatum: Regulators demanded he surrender 44.2 acres (66% of his entire property) into a permanent conservation deed restriction before pouring a single foot of concrete. ​The double standard: Just 10 miles away, Microsoft was permitted to move roughly 500,000 cubic yards of earth for a massive data center with a fraction of that mitigation burden. ​When you have billions, the state rolls out the red carpet. When you’re an everyday citizen building on your own private property, they bleed your bank account and demand your deed.
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Microsoft was allowed to move mountains of dirt, but Tyler Chambers was blocked and forced to surrender 44 acres to the state. ​A small-business owner spent $300K jumping through five years of environmental hoops just to build a single family home on his own land. The state’s answer? Hand over two-thirds of your property or walk. ​Details below.
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Unbelievable! WA couple spent $300,000 for home plans, then told to surrender 44 acres for conservation. Tyler Chambers fights back against crushing demands. #Washington #PropertyRights #LandGrab #Regulations
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@agent509 knows the Chambers situation, in fact, it was a pivot point for us here at AGENT509 to get more involved and understanding what and how Chelan County handles their tax payers and land use code . Special thanks to Chris Bennett of @AgWebEditor for his editorial story on the Chamber's family. Does a family really need to give up 66% of their land to the state? Any help would be greatly appreciated. @johnrich @USDA @POTUS Read the story here.... agweb.com/news/business/farm… – at Wenatchee, WA
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What if we completely reimagined the concept of a “starter home” into something more like this? Start with a small living space on an oversized foundation. Expand later as you can afford it with no digging. Couple-sized now, family-sized later.
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A photo on the way to #BoeingAppleCup 🏈 #GoCougs
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Washington, when running through Vantage do yourself a favor and grab a burger and fries here. It will not disappoint. Insanely good. – at Mattawa, WA
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Washington state is 3rd highest in the USA for combined state and local sales taxes. This is in addition to the 4th highest corporate tax rate, middle of the pack property taxes, and a capital gains income tax that puts us closer to the bottom of the rankings. Overall, our tax competitiveness score is a dismal 45th place. And this is all before the results of the August election, where numerous municipalities had sales and property tax increases on the ballot. Abir Mandal | @TaxFoundation 'State and Local Sales Tax Rates, Midyear 2026' Link: taxfoundation.org/data/all/s…
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Replying to @TimSheehyMT
Fire management starts with stewardship of the land. My grandparents owned property next to wilderness in Montana. The difference in why their land thrived and survived while the wilderness side did not was simple, practical stewardship. They selectively removed trees that had pine beetle or were dying. At the first snow they burned the slash piles. From spring through early October they ran cattle. The result was abundant grass, healthy wildlife, and a managed forest that could withstand fire. Senator, you were not old enough (born in Minnesota) to remember the Yellowstone fires of 1988. One major reason so many acres burned was decades of halted forest management that left more than 50 years of beetle-killed pine as fuel. After the fires, timber companies were prepared to go in and clean up the burned timber. That work was stopped by people who understood little about real stewardship of the land. We now have years of mismanagement to clean up. As my grandfather used to tell me: the old ways are the best ways. Whether fires start by arson or by nature, the answer is the same active stewardship. Selective thinning, controlled burns of slash, grazing where appropriate, and allowing responsible cleanup after fires. That is how we protect communities, wildlife, and the forests themselves.
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As someone with over 25 years in the wholesale lumber industry..this is the best summary I’ve read and pretty straight forward, accurate to why we are here today. 2/3 of the USFS budget is for fire. This before any FEMA/Emergency funds let alone State and local (DNR)
The Dirty Little Secret of Wildfire How America Traded Logging Jobs for a Perpetual Firefighting Economy For much of the 20th century, the forests of the Pacific Northwest were managed as working landscapes. Private timber companies and federal land managers cut, planted, thinned, and tended the land with the understanding that the trees were an asset to be sustained across generations. Clearcuts functioned as firebreaks. Small crews routinely extinguished ignitions before they became news. The result was a regional economy built on living-wage jobs, steady tax revenue for schools and public safety, and forests that, for the most part, stayed green. Occasional fires occurred. What did not occur were the annual, multi-hundred-thousand-acre, smoke-choked seasons that have become the new normal. That changed in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The northern spotted owl was elevated into the most consequential bird in modern American policy. Scientists and environmental organizations argued that the species required large tracts of old-growth habitat. Petitions, lawsuits, and court orders followed. In June 1990 the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service listed the owl as threatened. Federal Judge William Dwyer’s rulings and the 1994 Northwest Forest Plan locked up roughly 24 million acres of federal forest across Oregon, Washington, and northern California. Federal timber harvests collapsed—often by 80 to 90 percent from 1980s levels in the key regions. Mills closed by the dozens. Supporting businesses disappeared. Unemployment surged. Some communities never fully recovered. Private industrial landowners continued managing their own ground because they still had direct financial skin in the game. Federal and state lands largely stopped being managed for timber production or for systematic fuel reduction at anything approaching the previous scale. The forests kept growing. Fuels kept accumulating. An ignition that once would have been contained by a small crew with shovels and a radio now found denser, more continuous fuel beds. Large fires (5,000 acres and up) went from relatively rare events in the 1970s to routine occurrences in the 2000s and 2010s. In multiple recent seasons, more timber has burned than the industry harvested in its heyday. The irony is difficult to miss: forests “saved” from chainsaws have been delivered to ash in far greater volume. Meanwhile, the northern spotted owl’s population has continued to decline across much of its range. Logging was never the primary driver. Competition from the invasive barred owl has proven far more significant, and habitat loss from high-severity fire now ranks high among the threats. The original crisis was urgent enough to trigger listing and sweeping land-use restrictions. The promised recovery under the Northwest Forest Plan has been, at best, incomplete. The economic and ecological bill arrived in the form of unmanaged fuels and repeated megafires. And that is where the dirty little secret begins. Once the timber economy on public land was kneecapped, a new industry rose to replace it. Wildland firefighting—suppression, logistics, aviation, camps, contracts, and the supporting apparatus—became a multi-billion-dollar annual enterprise. Agencies and contractors employ thousands. Budgets are large and sticky. In government, “use it or lose it” is not a slogan; it is an operating principle. A quiet fire season is a budgeting risk. Early, aggressive attack on every ignition that could still be handled by a small crew is expensive in the short term and reduces the later need for the full apparatus. Allowing fires to grow until they justify emergency declarations, large incident management teams, and federal cost-share arrangements is, from a certain bureaucratic perspective, rational and financially advantageous. Local structural firefighters and many ground-level wildland crews do not share this incentive structure. They want the fire out. Once a fire reaches a certain size or complexity, however, control shifts upward to state and federal incident management teams whose metrics, funding streams, and political realities are different. Neither major political party has shown a strong appetite for fixing the underlying problem. One side treats any expansion of active management or commercial thinning as an assault on old growth and the owl. The other side speaks frequently about forest health but rarely forces the structural changes in litigation risk, planning timelines, and budget incentives that would actually move the needle at scale. Campaign contributions and jobs flow from the existing system. Admitting that the original policy overcorrected and produced a more dangerous landscape remains politically costly. Climate change and longer fire seasons are real factors. Drier fuels and hotter summers make everything worse. But denser, less-managed forests on the public estate are the accelerant that policy deliberately chose. Private industrial lands are managed more intensively and still burn, yet the severity is generally lower. Young plantations and certain silvicultural choices create their own risks, but private owners retain a direct financial reason to keep fuels in check and respond quickly. Public lands under the post-owl regime largely do not. Oregon and the broader region now hold more trees than they did in the 1920s, largely because private landowners continued to replant. They also experience more catastrophic fire. The government did not “save” the forest. It changed who controlled the management decisions and, in the process, swapped a productive industry for a perpetual emergency-response industry. The owl was the symbol. The lasting result is a landscape that burns bigger, rural economies that never fully healed, and a political class with limited incentive to alter the arrangement. Instead of market-driven capital allocation, the new system runs on taxpayer subsidies. Households and businesses understand that money spent inefficiently is money gone. Government tends to treat the same dollars as an everlasting well. Until the incentives change—until early detection, aggressive initial attack, mechanical thinning where appropriate, and genuine long-term forest management are rewarded more than the sheer size of the suppression effort—the same pattern will continue every summer: more smoke, more lost timber, more money spent, and the same speeches about how hard everyone is fighting the fires that policy helped create.
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The Dirty Little Secret of Wildfire How America Traded Logging Jobs for a Perpetual Firefighting Economy For much of the 20th century, the forests of the Pacific Northwest were managed as working landscapes. Private timber companies and federal land managers cut, planted, thinned, and tended the land with the understanding that the trees were an asset to be sustained across generations. Clearcuts functioned as firebreaks. Small crews routinely extinguished ignitions before they became news. The result was a regional economy built on living-wage jobs, steady tax revenue for schools and public safety, and forests that, for the most part, stayed green. Occasional fires occurred. What did not occur were the annual, multi-hundred-thousand-acre, smoke-choked seasons that have become the new normal. That changed in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The northern spotted owl was elevated into the most consequential bird in modern American policy. Scientists and environmental organizations argued that the species required large tracts of old-growth habitat. Petitions, lawsuits, and court orders followed. In June 1990 the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service listed the owl as threatened. Federal Judge William Dwyer’s rulings and the 1994 Northwest Forest Plan locked up roughly 24 million acres of federal forest across Oregon, Washington, and northern California. Federal timber harvests collapsed—often by 80 to 90 percent from 1980s levels in the key regions. Mills closed by the dozens. Supporting businesses disappeared. Unemployment surged. Some communities never fully recovered. Private industrial landowners continued managing their own ground because they still had direct financial skin in the game. Federal and state lands largely stopped being managed for timber production or for systematic fuel reduction at anything approaching the previous scale. The forests kept growing. Fuels kept accumulating. An ignition that once would have been contained by a small crew with shovels and a radio now found denser, more continuous fuel beds. Large fires (5,000 acres and up) went from relatively rare events in the 1970s to routine occurrences in the 2000s and 2010s. In multiple recent seasons, more timber has burned than the industry harvested in its heyday. The irony is difficult to miss: forests “saved” from chainsaws have been delivered to ash in far greater volume. Meanwhile, the northern spotted owl’s population has continued to decline across much of its range. Logging was never the primary driver. Competition from the invasive barred owl has proven far more significant, and habitat loss from high-severity fire now ranks high among the threats. The original crisis was urgent enough to trigger listing and sweeping land-use restrictions. The promised recovery under the Northwest Forest Plan has been, at best, incomplete. The economic and ecological bill arrived in the form of unmanaged fuels and repeated megafires. And that is where the dirty little secret begins. Once the timber economy on public land was kneecapped, a new industry rose to replace it. Wildland firefighting—suppression, logistics, aviation, camps, contracts, and the supporting apparatus—became a multi-billion-dollar annual enterprise. Agencies and contractors employ thousands. Budgets are large and sticky. In government, “use it or lose it” is not a slogan; it is an operating principle. A quiet fire season is a budgeting risk. Early, aggressive attack on every ignition that could still be handled by a small crew is expensive in the short term and reduces the later need for the full apparatus. Allowing fires to grow until they justify emergency declarations, large incident management teams, and federal cost-share arrangements is, from a certain bureaucratic perspective, rational and financially advantageous. Local structural firefighters and many ground-level wildland crews do not share this incentive structure. They want the fire out. Once a fire reaches a certain size or complexity, however, control shifts upward to state and federal incident management teams whose metrics, funding streams, and political realities are different. Neither major political party has shown a strong appetite for fixing the underlying problem. One side treats any expansion of active management or commercial thinning as an assault on old growth and the owl. The other side speaks frequently about forest health but rarely forces the structural changes in litigation risk, planning timelines, and budget incentives that would actually move the needle at scale. Campaign contributions and jobs flow from the existing system. Admitting that the original policy overcorrected and produced a more dangerous landscape remains politically costly. Climate change and longer fire seasons are real factors. Drier fuels and hotter summers make everything worse. But denser, less-managed forests on the public estate are the accelerant that policy deliberately chose. Private industrial lands are managed more intensively and still burn, yet the severity is generally lower. Young plantations and certain silvicultural choices create their own risks, but private owners retain a direct financial reason to keep fuels in check and respond quickly. Public lands under the post-owl regime largely do not. Oregon and the broader region now hold more trees than they did in the 1920s, largely because private landowners continued to replant. They also experience more catastrophic fire. The government did not “save” the forest. It changed who controlled the management decisions and, in the process, swapped a productive industry for a perpetual emergency-response industry. The owl was the symbol. The lasting result is a landscape that burns bigger, rural economies that never fully healed, and a political class with limited incentive to alter the arrangement. Instead of market-driven capital allocation, the new system runs on taxpayer subsidies. Households and businesses understand that money spent inefficiently is money gone. Government tends to treat the same dollars as an everlasting well. Until the incentives change—until early detection, aggressive initial attack, mechanical thinning where appropriate, and genuine long-term forest management are rewarded more than the sheer size of the suppression effort—the same pattern will continue every summer: more smoke, more lost timber, more money spent, and the same speeches about how hard everyone is fighting the fires that policy helped create.
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The Little Giant Fire 📍 Wenatchee, WA
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The Little Giant Fire in Washington state has already burnt 111,428 acres. Nearly 14k acres alone burned yesterday.
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When the barrier of entry to anything is restricted....it creates artificial price inflation. These restrictions are masked by words of: SEPA study, Zoning laws, Setbacks, etc, etc. Who pays for this? Young people or first time home owners pay for this...did our grandparents pay for this? No, their biggest purchase in most cases had none of these artificial restrictions. For some reason, a home has become what would be termed shelter into now an engineered structure that still requires maintenance as it did when our grandparents purchased. – at Wenatchee, WA
49% of American adults under 30 lived with a parent last year, up from 37% in 2019, per WSJ.
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The human-caused Chelan Hills fire in Douglas County, Washington has destroyed 19 primary homes, claimed one life, and sparked a criminal investigation.
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A lot of people have been waking up with wood over in the lake Chelan area. I'll show myself out now.
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