For those who know... I think the Rolls Royce was a violation of biblical commands about modesty (not flaunting lavish wealth especially in church contexts) even though I am fully aware the wealthy pastor in question said it wasn't his car. But I don't get the problem with using ladders as an illustration. To react to them as the same thing seems very odd to me. Ezekiel used very graphic illustrations that would seem gimmicky to many today. John the Baptist wore camels hair not because he had to but as an illustration. Jesus, at times used illustrations. For example, when he picked up a child just to make a teaching point about humility. Mark 9:36-37 And he took a child and put him in the midst of them, and taking him in his arms, he said to them, “Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, and whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me.” Agabus, in Acts, used a physical prop when he took Paul's belt and tied his own hands and feet with it (Acts 21:11) I don't get the problem with ladders. Perhaps someone would say too many pastors are copying each other but that wouldn't be a problem with ladders, even if it is potentially some other issue.