We understand, the problem is you don't. You don't understand hierarchy, you don't understand duty; you don't understand men. Male social status in the West is the lowest it's ever been. Yes, ever. There has never been a point where young men get berated exclusively as the cause of all social ills. We spend every day being blamed for shit outside our control, and then systematically barred from any authority, any prestige, any positions that might let us fix the problem. "You'd be in a lower position socially!" is acceptable if it lets us fix the problem. Men are not concerned with hierarchy, we understand our place in it. The issue arises when we are systematically locked out of that hierarchy, when the tribe definitely enslaves us as a lesser caste to benefit everyone else. EVERYONE losing ALL their rights and privileges would be a net gain for young men. And this goes back to you complaining about incels being hostile and suspicious towards you, years ago. You didn't understand at the time why, why these guys who nominally just wanted female affection were so hostile about it. You didn't understand why these guys would instinctively lash out at you when you asked what they wanted. You didn't understand, you couldn't understand. These two things, the disempowerment and dissolution of Gynocratic and Geriatric society and resolving the issue of men unable to find partners at all are connected. They are, in fact, the same problem; a society that is at its core hostile to young men. Young White men in particular, who always bear the brunt of the blame for everything. Young men are asking to just be treated fairly, to not be attacked at every turn and what they get in response is totalized hostility. We get blamed for black welfare queens and their half-dozen joglet future-criminals consuming phenomenal volumes of state resources. We get blamed for the geriatrics not getting their stimmy cheques. We get blamed for women wrecking their lives with drugs and casual sex. We get blamed when a mother, apropos of nothing, murders her children. We are already at the bottom, there is nowhere for the White man to go but up. Men will accept responsibility, as we always have, if only we are rewarded in turn for it. Voting is a responsibility, and so we must be conscious voters. The capacity for violence is a responsibility, and so we must know restraint. Impregnating a woman and caring for the child is a responsibility, and so we must protect and provide resources to them. Our biology screams at us to do this and every time we try, we're stabbed in the heart. So now the deal is that we'll take back all the responsibility, the buck will stop with us. Clearly women, collectively, and the old, collectively, cannot manage or maintain a society. Half want complete civilizational suicide to "own the chuds" and the other half are very obviously too emotionally-inclined for rational pragmatism. Yes, that includes right-wing women. You're lovely people, but you don't fight wars. Your rights have always come with the tacit expectation of no attached responsibilities, and you've- collectively- voted that way for generations. Case after case after case after case after case of women doing insane, irrational and self-destructive things then trying to get away with it because "i'm just a girl" or "emotions made me do it", the arguments for abortion, the entire Clancy affair. The baseline claim is, and has always been, women as a class are not capable of responsibility and the end of that road is a return to treating women as property. In that, you have two choices. The secular lefty Feminists are choosing Islam as their escape from responsibility. A significant chunk of "right-wing" women will no doubt follow suit the second it looks safe. You'll either be one of Abdul's twelve beaten and raped wives or you side with Western civilization, Western history and the systems our ancestors lived under. Pick your side, time's running out and when we win, as we always have, the traitors won't be welcomed back.