"Avi was just, frankly, kind of dismissive of my colleague Jay Stratton." ~MH Yesterday, @ProfAviLoeb said: "I invited [@jaystratton] to speak with the UAP Science Advisory Council. Jay did not respond to my invitation. Why is it a higher priority for Jay to speak with Fox News than with the @UAPSAC council?" And I said, "Fair question." Then I listened to this from @MicahHanks this morning, and I think we may have found one reason why Stratton didn't respond to Avi. "Anybody out there who's ever met [Jay Stratton], you probably will know that he's a really great guy." (Count me in on that. ⬆️ This is not a good look for Avi. ⬇️) Micah: "I had given my talk earlier that day. Jay Stratton was giving his talk, I think, the following day, and then we had the Disclosure panel on Friday. And so we had to go prepare for the Disclosure panel. "While we were in preparation for the panel on Friday, Jay got a phone call, and somebody said, 'Yeah, Avi was over here at your table, and he was looking for you.' And so we thought, oh well, you know, Dr. Loeb wants to meet Jay Stratton, that's wonderful. "So after we finish our prep, we head back over to the event center. We go in there. Unfortunately, Dr. Loeb had finished his talk, we didn't get to see that because we had other obligations. So we decided we'd try to go find Avi, and we went over to Jay's table. And they said, 'Oh, [Avi's] backstage right now, so you can probably still catch him.' "And so, Jay and I head back there. I'm eager to introduce Jay to Avi. And sure enough, Avi's in the green room. So I say, 'Doctor Loeb, my friend Jay Stratton, I want to introduce you to.' And Avi looks at both of us, and the first thing he says, 'Did you listen to my lecture?' "So I respond, 'Well, Dr. Loeb, unfortunately, we are here as speakers, and we are having to do work, and so regretfully we had other obligations because we have to do a Disclosure panel tomorrow, and we were preparing for that. So I apologize; we weren't able to see your talk.' "Well, Avi, not really looking at us, he's kind of looking past us, kind of looking down at the ground. But he says, 'Well, if you're preparing a disclosure panel, you should be listening to the man who is working with the government on Disclosure right now. I'm literally going to Washington right now to go to talk to the people at the ODNI about Disclosure.' "Well, yet again, as before, I am somehow detecting some irritation from Avi Loeb, and so I apologize. I say, 'Listen, I really do apologize. We weren't able to be here, but again, we just have other obligations. We have a bunch of things that we're responsible for this weekend.' "And I will point out - and keep in mind, I'm paraphrasing here - but I mean, I said to Avi, 'Jay, of course, was the former director of the UAP Task Force, so I mean, he spent a good bit of time in government working on Disclosure as well.' "And [Avi's] looking off past us, not making eye contact. But he sort of repeats, 'Well, if you want to know about Disclosure, you should have watched my lecture, because I am the man who is leading that effort. I am not merely talking about Disclosure, I am going to Washington and working on it.' "Well, at this point, I got a little irritated myself. I have known Dr. Loeb for many years, we've always been very cordial to one another. And I never would have guessed in a million years that when I took my colleague, Jay Stratton, backstage to meet Dr. Loeb, he would stand there and insist that he and only he is leading the UFO disclosure effort. Despite the fact that, to my knowledge, he doesn't have a security clearance, even though he is heading up a very important advisory council on UAP to members of the Intelligence Community, and I applaud him for that. "So I said to Dr. Loeb, 'Well, congratulations. I'm so glad that you and only you are able to achieve this, and that you are making such strides.' But then again, trying to lower the temperature, I said, 'You know, how's your family, Avi? I mean, I hope everybody's well.' And again, he just kind of says, 'Well, they're fine, but you should have listened to my lecture. I'm going to Washington right now.' "So Avi leaves, he has a plane he's gotta catch, and I'm left with this, sort of, bad taste in my mouth. I mean, personally, I felt like, maybe not only this was a little awkward, but maybe there could have been a slightly more positive exchange in the first meeting between Avi and Jay Stratton. "And I felt like, you know, Avi was just, frankly, kind of dismissive of my colleague Jay Stratton and I. But especially, that was the case regarding Jay. And I have a lot of respect for Jay, and that's why I took issue with this. Anybody out there who's ever met him, you probably will know that he's a really great guy on all fronts. "In fact, he surprises me sometimes. What a great guy, what a great American he is. So that means a lot to me, and I want [Jay] to be shown respect. And I didn't feel like that was really happening in this instance. That was just my take. "Anyway, we all get home, it was a wonderful event, and sure enough, I have an email waiting from Avi. And I thought, well, maybe he's, you know, got some sentiments to share or something, or maybe he wants to kind of smooth things over. And I open the email, and it is a link to his new article on Medium about the event that we were at in Vernal. "And there's one line in the body of the email above the link. It says, 'Everyone who was there said that my talk was the best one at the entire event,' or something to that effect. Again, I'm paraphrasing. But I'm thinking to myself, reading the email: Ok, Dr. Loeb, I get it. Point taken. Yours was the best talk of the entire event. I'm really sorry I missed it. "The article in question, dated September 12th, 2026, is titled 'Make History Better Rather Than Talk About It.' I'll skip ahead to the relevant portion because he talks a good bit about his talk there at PhenomeCon and various other things. "Then he goes on to mention, 'For many years, I was jealous of accomplished bakers, who often have a long line of customers waiting for their creations. Through 40 years of publishing more than 1000 scientific papers, I never witnessed people waiting in line for my fresh, out-of-the-oven research insights. All of this, until two days ago, when dozens of conference attendees lined up to express gratitude about my work and take a photo with me. "'After my keynote speech,' Avi tells us, 'I met Jay Stratton, who apologized for not being able to attend my talk as he was preparing his presentation about UAP Disclosure. By the time he gave his presentation, I was on my red-eye flight to D.C. thinking how much more fulfilling it is to be part of making history than talking about it.' "Now, of course, you can see why I take issue with this, and in fairness, I think he's really just kind of paraphrasing. But in this version of the account on the Medium page there, I'm written out of the narrative. Which is problematic to me because it was actually me who had apologized, and Jay and I were talking about the Disclosure panel. "Some of the facts are inherently wrong. But I see that, of course, wording it the way that he does, Dr. Loeb is, I think, able to frame this in terms of having this one-on-one interaction with Jay, and being able to come away from that meeting saying, 'Well, Jay goes and gives a talk about disclosure. I immediately left and went to Washington to get to work on it.' "Well, Doctor Loeb, respectfully, and that's always what I mean because I genuinely do mean it. And Avi and I have always had great interactions in the past. But in this instance, Dr. Loeb, I respectfully take issue with your tone and your attitude. The way this was conveyed in the Medium post isn't exactly how it really happened. "And you don't have to mention me, I know that's not important to you, but the very thing you're saying about being ignored by the bakers, you know, with his little analogy there? Well, not only are you doing that to me, but you're also trying to make light of the most senior official who ever investigated UAP for the United States government, the many years that he spent doing that, the security clearances he held while he was conducting those investigations, and the right I feel that he has earned as an American to get up there on that podium and to talk about whatever he wants to. His talk was excellent." "I went and I asked people, I said, 'You know, listen, I'm so sorry we missed Avi's talk. What did he talk about?' The first thing someone told me was they said he spent the first 15 minutes showing pictures of himself with celebrities.'" (I'll link to the audio in the replies and give you a timestamp if you wanna listen to the entire thing.)