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How I found God?
Bear with me as this is a long answer but hopefully; you will not lose interest midway :)
I was raised in a Christian Protestant community
However; I never really understood the trinity and whenever I asked anyone; the answer was the same; you can’t understand it since it’s beyond our comprehension
It never made sense to me that the very nature of the creator would be beyond the comprehension of his creation
How would God expect us to worship him if we don’t know who he is
So I dug into scripture and to my surprise; nothing at all said Jesus is God in the synoptic gospels; except very few additions to the gospels that the church itself refuted as it was obvious they aren’t original
The only places where I found divinity claims are in four places;
1- Gospel of John
2- Paul Letters
3- The book of revelation
4- 2 Peter
So I decided to study the New Testament textual criticism academically to know how truthful and credible are these sources; as it doesn’t make sense that all the earliest gospels ignored the most major fact about Jesus; that he is God !
Turned out:
1- The Gospel of John is not authored by Apostle John according to all NT scholars research. It was authored by an anonymous author or group of authors in a Johannine community; that already adopted Jesus divinity before writing the Gospel.
2- There is zero evidence that paul saw Jesus or learned anything from him. Aside from paul himself; there is zero confirmation or even support that he met Jesus.
3- The book of revelation is absolutely not written by Apostle John who was an Aramaic fisherman. It was likely authored by a man named John who like paul, never met Jesus nor learned from him, but he said he had visions of him. Even less credible than paul.
4- 2 Peter was an early attempt from the Roman church to cover the fact that we don’t have a single apostle of Jesus saying he’s God, so they wrote this letter and attributed it to him. By all NT scholars’ accounts, this letter is pseudonymous.
So it’s became clear as day; Jesus is not and was not God. The man salvation doctrine that God came and died for our sins is a full fabrication.
I can talk about the reasons why these two doctrines were promoted but it’ll make this post even longer.
Alright, so he’s a prophet of God but unfortunately being a Unitarian today is nearly impossible as all the Unitarian Gospels are burned by Constantine to promote the Trinity such as source Q, the writings of Arius, the Gospel of the Ebionites, the shepherd of Hermas and the Teachings of the Twelve Apostles.
I am confident that God won’t leave humanity without a true scripture for that long. Since Islam is the last monotheistic religion, I was inclined to look into it and go past the scary things that surrounds this religion.
Reading the Quran felt like an eloquent extension of the synoptic gospels and the OT books. The story of Jesus matches perfectly with the Unitarian faith of early Christians including Jesus disciples.
I dug deeper and as a textual critique; the Quran of today is the same Quran of the 7th century word by word, perfectly preserved. This is unprecedented in human history; so I’m fully confident the Quran is the true word of God and is the true scripture we shall follow.
Sorry for the long post; but I felt sharing who I am now; is better understood if I tell you where I came from.
How humiliating is it going to get to trinitarians until they quit polytheism?
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A few days ago, I spoke with a polytheist trinitarian and here’s how it went:
Me: Can you explain the trinity?
Him: Yes; one God nature with three distinct persons.
Me: Great!
Now, do believe that
1- There is One God
2- God has a son
3- Jesus is God
Him: Yes 🤨
Me: So who is Jesus son?
Him: 🤔 huh
Me: You said there’s one God who has a son and that Jesus is this one God.
Him: That’s a good point but I don’t know. Let’s talk later.
lol! Polytheism fails as soon as logic arrives
I’m looking for one Trinitarian to answer one question
Who’s the speaker in Isaiah 45:5
“I am the Lord and there is none else;
Apart from Me, there is No God”
Who’s “I” and “Me” here?
If Jesus was God; why is it always him who worships the Father?
Why the Father never worships him back?
And why he never worshipped the Holy Spirit? Why ignoring it? It’s still God, right?
What am I missing?
One more insecure trinitarianً blocked me because I asked how can Peter call Jesus; the servant of God
How can God be the servant of God
He cursed me and blocked me
This guy blocked me when I asked him if any prophet ever said that God is 3 persons !! :)
Why are trinitarians so insecure?
If God is 3 persons;
Do we have one verse for any prophet ever before Jesus explaining this to his nation?
Or was that a tightly kept secret?
Why would Apostke Peter say this:
“The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His servant Jesus…”
He called Jesus; servant of God!
Sooo … not God?
If Jesus is God, and if he died on the cross; how are we supposed to trust that he will protect us when he himself got humiliated?
Except that he’s not God and God protected him from any harm.
Question to Trinitarians:
1- The Father, Son, and Spirit are distinct persons, meaning distinct centers of consciousness, will, and agency, correct?
2- They all share the same divine nature, correct?
3- Each distinct person is fully God, correct?
4- That means there are three persons who are fully God, correct?
5- Since they have distinct consciousness and will, each person can act differently, correct?
6- Yet each acting subject is still fully God, correct?
7- So we now have three distinct acting subjects, each of whom is God, correct?.
8- If Person A (who is fully God) walks right, Person B (who is fully God) walks left, and Person C (who is fully God) remains still — what did God do?
Guys, can I ask you a question
I’m a 100% Christian and follower of Christ but here’s a struggle that I’m sure you can help me:
- Can you show me a single verse from any scripture of any prophet in the history of humanity preaching a tri-person God?
And using AI is even encouraged
Please
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Here’s a personal story about Palestinian child prisoners:
- In 2012, I was arrested in Hebron while participating in a march to open Shuhada street, which was a main market street for Palestinians until the Israeli military shut it down, and made it for Israeli settlers only. It’s part of the area @JamaalBowmanNY visited.
- Handcuffed and blinded by pepper spray, and thrown in the back of an Israeli humvee after my head was slammed against it, the soldiers drive off. They suddenly stop, run out, and all I hear is a child screaming and crying.
- This child is then thrown on top of me, and is handcuffed. I ask him his age, he said 13. I asked him what happened, he says he was walking to his sister’s house and they just stopped and picked him up. He’s in panic mode crying “my sister cooked lunch for me, she’ll be terrified if I’m lost”. I tell him not to worry, we’ll make it out and give him the basic tips: You have a right to remain silent, don’t say anything without a lawyer…etc.
- We get to the Israeli military outpost, we’re dragged out of the humvee. The kid’s terrified, telling them not to blind him (He thought I was blinded because of the pepper spray, I couldn’t open my eyes).
- The smack the kid around and tell him to shut up.
- We wait a bit, then kid is called in for interrogation.
- The Israeli military interrogator literally tells him: I’ll let you go home, you just need to confirm the guy with you led the protest and told you to throw the stones at us.
- Kid says I want to call my family/lawyer. Interrogator says ok: Picks up mobile and gives it to kid. Kid puts in his mother’s number. Soldier snatches mobile. The mother answers. Soldier says: Your son is going to go to jail and if he doesn’t talk I’ll come and arrest you too. Puts it on speaker, mother is panicking. Kid starts to panic. Soldier hangs up in her face.
- Soldier tells kid: I can make your family’s life hell. But if you say what I told you to say, everything will be ok.
- Kid starts sobbing and says: But I don’t know this guy I just met him in the humvee when you picked me up. Sitting outside the room, I yell: Kid, stay strong, say your truth and don’t fall into his lies.
- They come and take me away. Thirty minutes later kid comes out of interrogation shaken. He says the soldier told him he’d shoot his mother. The poor child told me not to worry though, he only said the truth 🥺.
- The case brought against this poor kid was stone throwing, with two soldiers “testifying” they saw him throw a stone.
- He spent 3 months in prison as court hearings kept getting delayed, eventually he was advised by his lawyer to “admit” to stone throwing because that way he’d spend less time in prison because the lawyer could be able to negotiate his release in 4 months, while waiting for a ruling from Israel’s military courts could take a year.
- In short, working on this issue in Palestine for 12 years, I can tell you the majority of child arrests in Palestine follow this exact pattern:
- Israel wants to teach a Palestinian community a lesson, deterring people from protesting its oppression.
- It targets the kids, arresting dozens - up to 700 a year.
- Majority of kids get abused and interrogated.
- Lawyers and kids know it’s better to “confess” even if they didn’t do the crime, as waiting for a ruling and being in uncertainty/limbo is hell. That’s why you have a 95% conviction rate.
- Then the Israeli government, when challenged for the systematic abuse, comes out and says: “These kids are terrorists - they attacked our soldiers and admitted to it.”
- And because the lives of Palestinian children don’t matter, the world turns a blind eye again and again and again and again.