Who gets to define a movement? Its Founder. Not a council that met nearly 300 years after He ascended. "Christian" means disciple of Christ (Acts 11:26; 1 Pet 4:16). Here's how Jesus defined His disciples, in His own words: BELIEVE • "He that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live" (John 11:25) • "If ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins" (John 8:24) FOLLOW • "If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed" (John 8:31) • "If ye love me, keep my commandments" (John 14:15) • "Take up his cross daily, and follow me" (Luke 9:23) • "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another" (John 13:35) Latter-day Saints believe Jesus is the Christ, the divine Son of God, our Savior, crucified and risen, and we strive to follow Him. Check and check. Now the TRUE CHRISTIAN™ test: affirm Nicaea (325), Constantinople (381) and Chalcedon (451), councils convened by Roman emperors. "They just clarified the Bible." Then quote Jesus saying "of one substance." Nicaea had to use a word found nowhere in scripture (homoousios), then pronounced anathema on anyone who said otherwise. Jesus gave the test. Which part do Latter-day Saints fail? #Christian

LDS is that, yes. I survived escape from that cult. It's a heretical bunch of lies and the victims/members are brainwashed. Run far away

Imagine being so worried about other people’s underwear. Dude. Touch some grass.

@Grok if a poor African is sending their kids to bed hungry every night is it ok for them to not pay 10% of the income as a tithing to the Church of Jesus Christ of later day saints or should people take food from the mouths of the children to give to the LDS Church according to church teachings and talks in general conference?

Latter‑day Saints don’t believe we “get our own planet.” That’s a meme, not doctrine. The actual teaching is about becoming more like God through Christ, not managing cosmic real estate. Critics repeat the joke because it’s easy to mock, but it has nothing to do with what we believe.

Dan, I am defending your prophet against you and I am not even a mormon. This should be your bishop’s and stake president's conversation, not mine. 1. Every historian on earth works from testimony. If eleven signed statements, hostile converts, and journals written the same week are not data, your field has no data. 2. Name one founder of any movement with a record like this. Name one fraud model that predicts the miracles continuing seventy years after the fraud is in the ground. 3. Twenty four years of experiences, shared, witnessed by hostile parties, written down close to the event, by people free to deny them for the rest of their lives who never did. Then seventy more years of the same without him. That is not one man’s dogma. That is a dataset. 4. A farm boy of 23 with three years of schooling dictated the Book of Mormon, nearly 600 pages in about 65 working days. No notes. No manuscript. Every witness to the process says so. 5. The original manuscript survives. It shows a dictated text. 6. The BoM carries chiasmus, Hebrew grammar, and a chronology and geography that have held up under two centuries of hostile reading. 7. It names a place in Arabia, Nahom, that sat in the text for 170 years before archaeologists dug up altars bearing that tribal name, dated to the century the book says Lehi passed through. 8. Eleven men put their names in print in 1830. Eight of them hefted the plates and turned the leaves in daylight. 9. Several of those men later left the church with every reason to bury Joseph. Not one recanted. Ever. 10. David Whitmer was run out of Far West in 1838. He was still swearing to it in print in 1887. He had it carved on his gravestone. 11. Oliver Cowdery saw the angel, the plates, and the priesthood restored. He left the church in 1838, practiced law, and in 1848 stood up in Kanesville and swore to all three again. 12. in 1831, Joseph took Elsa Johnson’s crippled arm and commanded it whole. Ezra Booth, a Methodist preacher, watched and joined that day. Within months he was attacking Joseph in the newspapers, but never recanted the supernatural event. 13. in 1838, Haun’s Mill. A musket ball took the hip joint off seven year old Alma Smith. His mother prayed, packed the wound as she said she was told to, and the boy grew a new joint and walked the rest of his life. 14. in 1839, Nauvoo. Sick himself, Joseph walked the riverbank commanding people out of malaria beds, crossed to Montrose, and raised Elijah Fordham from what Wilford Woodruff called a deathbed. Then he sent his handkerchief to heal a nonmember’s twins. Woodruff wrote it down. 15. in 1840, England. Woodruff blessed Mary Pitt, crippled for over a decade. She walked. He wrote it that week. 16. in Christmas Day 1832. Joseph dictated that war would begin with the rebellion of South Carolina and that the South would call on Great Britain. In print by 1851. Ten years before Sumter. 17. in June 1844, Carthage jail. He told Dan Jones he would live to see Wales again and finish his mission. Jones walked out the next morning, survived, and baptized thousands there. 18. A year before Carthage Joseph told Willard Richards bullets would fly around him like hail and none would touch him. Richards walked out of that room with a nick in his ear and no hole in his coat. 19. In Kirtland, within the first months of 1836 dozens of people reported angels, tongues, and shared visions. The reports sit in journals written that same week, not in old age. Joseph’s, Oliver Cowdery’s, Edward Partridge’s. No plates required. 20. A fraud quits when the profit stops. Joseph was dragged from bed, tarred and feathered in 1832, and preached the next morning to a crowd that included the men who did it. 21. Joseph spent four months of the winter of 1838 chained in a dungeon in Liberty, Missouri, and wrote some of his finest pages there. 22. Joseph walked to Carthage knowing what waited. He did not recant there either. 23. A con dies with the con man. These experiences did not. 24. in October 1846. Sick refugees driven from Nauvoo were fed by flocks of quail that landed on their wagons and let themselves be picked up by hand. Thomas Bullock wrote it in his journal that night. 25. in 1848, the trail. Mary Fielding Smith, a widow, had the elders bless a dying ox. It got up and pulled her wagon to the valley. Her nine year old son watched. He grew up to lead the church, and in 1918, weeks before his own death, recorded a vision of the dead that the church canonized. 26. Survivors of the Martin handcart company said to the end of their lives that they looked back to see who was pushing their carts and saw no one. 27. in 1891, Brigham City. Nineteen year old Ella Jensen died of scarlet fever. Her father went for Lorenzo Snow, then president of the Twelve. After she had been dead about two hours, Snow commanded her in the name of Jesus Christ to come back and live. She came back. She said she had been in the spirit world and did not want to return. She married, raised a family, and lived for decades. Her father, the stake president Rudger Clawson, and Ella herself all left accounts. 28. Snow later said he saw the Savior in the Salt Lake Temple. You can doubt that. You cannot doubt Ella. 29. Wilford Woodruff kept a daily journal for more than sixty years. The healings and manifestations never stop. They run across the plains, into the valley, and through the Manti and Salt Lake temple dedications, in different journals from different hands. I can keep going. The record keeping going. The data that the Restoration was founded on the supernatural is overwhelming, and it took an outsider to say it to you. I am sorry you lost your testimony. I mean that.