Exploring the intersection of real estate & bitcoin

Joined December 2025
Episode 39: CRE's Shakeout is Only Beginning @ChrisDrz @DanielBitHedge and @TimKotzman sit down to discuss the latest headlines and CRE industry trends including CMBS delinquency rates, types of volatility, $ASST newest product and the industry's newest favorite property type. 00:00 Intro 01:35 RES Market Monitor update 04:15 Debrief on Token2049 in Singapore 17:20 Interest rates by property type 19:00 CRE’s newest competitor $SATS 27:05 CMBS delinquency rates 31:05 The volatility double standard 40:00 Tenant activity 51:40 Shallow bay industrial’s time to shine 59:00 Closing thoughts
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Episode 38: Keeping the Ranch in The Family @ChrisDrz , @DanielBitHedge and @TimKotzman are joined by @modernTman to get an update on the beef and agricultural industries and how bitcoin is the solution to the rising costs of doing business. 00:00 Intro 00:45 RES Market Monitor update 06:55 State of affairs in farming 11:38 Bitcoin helps solve business issues 17:30 Centralization of the agricultural industry 23:05 The education gap 42:40 Broken monetary system squeezing farmers 50:00 bitHedge as the solution 01:10:06 Closing thoughts Remember to find your local farmer beefmaps.com/ and go shake his hand
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Bitcoin is bringing a new group of professionals to the same table. CRE, CPAs, financial advisors, bankers and lenders are all figuring out how Bitcoin fits into their businesses and client strategies. I’ll be speaking at the Bitcoin Financial Services Summit in Denver, Oct. 20–22, from the CRE perspective. Worth checking out if you’re working at this intersection. bffs.media/summit @SpaceDenver @wyattorourke_ @jordanguess
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We are live with @modernTman discussing how Bitcoin is a tool that enhances and complements the ranching business. Come join us!
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Episode 37: Texas Ranchers Meet bitHedge @ChrisDrz , @DanielBitHedge and @TimKotzman discuss the recent industry conferences and the latest on bitHedge identifying their ideal real estate partner. 00:00 Intro 01:20 RES Market Monitor update 06:20 The no lose option 13:50 Recapping recent conferences 29:25 The ideal real estate partner profile 36:20 Ranchers all have the same problem 48:00 Fund mechanics 01:00:40 Closing thoughts
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Episode 36: Testing Real Estate's Breaking Point @ChrisDrz , @DanielBitHedge and @TimKotzman discuss the recent fed rate hike, sunbelt multifamily distress and the downside case for the bitHedge Fund. 00:00 Intro 00:50 RES Market Monitor Update 04:00 Fed rate hike 26:00 BTC price action 30:25 What’s the downside case for bitHedge 42:00 Appropriate position sizing 49:00 Closing thoughts
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Get your copy at @BitcoinMagazine
Thursday morning reading. Huge congrats to my friend @leonwankum on the launch of Digital Real Estate. I was lucky enough to get an early look and provide feedback during the writing process. Leon has put serious work into this and has become one of the strongest voices at the intersection of Bitcoin, real estate and capital allocation. If you work in real estate, this should be at the top of your reading list. Get your copy at @BitcoinMagazine This book is going to make waves in the real estate + Bitcoin space. Don’t be the person catching up six months from now.
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NEW: Episode 36 of The Real Estate Standard Podcast: Testing Real Estate’s Breaking Point, drops this week with @ChrisDrz & @DanielBitHedge.
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Episode 35: Real Estate Partners, Bitcoin Distributions @ChrisDrz , @DanielBitHedge and @TimKotzman discuss the latest valuation metrics across US commercial real estate markets, technology's impact on excess land and parking structures, and take a deeper dive into the mechanics of the bitHedge fund. 00:00 Intro 00:45 RES Market Monitor Update 06:00 Technologies impact on CRE 09:45 Surplus vs. excess land 12:48 Mechanics of the @bitHedgefund 19:35 Capital raising environment 37:38 Criteria for real estate partners 49:20 Custody set up 51:40 LP’s get bitcoin distributions 56:00 Closing thoughts
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Bitcoin mining may be most useful to CRE owners when mining revenue isn’t the primary goal. Can the equipment produce needed heat, reduce net energy costs or monetize underused power? Start with the building’s needs, not the mining hardware. Explore the full roadmap: tftc.io/CRE
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Episode 34: The Newest Tool for CRE Owners @ChrisDrz and @TimKotzman are joined by Daniel Holbrook, founder of bitHedge. They discuss Daniel’s background in valuations and appraisal, the state of CRE lending markets and which segment of the market bitHedge is catering to. 00:00 Intro 00:47 New RES format 03:45 Dashboard update 14:20 @DanielBitHedge background 19:00 Valuations and appraisals 32:08 bitHedge fund overview 35:09 Debt-free CRE owners 40:00 Fund mechanics 1:02:00 Closing thoughts
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The Bitcoin Playbook for Commercial Real Estate Owners & Investors is available now! How do these strategies apply to your situation?
Thanks for having me @MartyBent If you own commercial real estate this playbook is a must read because the strategies discussed will define the next era of real estate investing. Download your copy at tftc.io/CRE
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The thesis is playing out right before our eyes
One year ago I posted this video. It went viral and started a much bigger conversation around Bitcoin and commercial real estate. The thesis was built around three things I believed CRE owners needed to start paying attention to: Monetary debasement. Obsolescence. New financial products competing for capital. A year later, I think those 3 issues matter even more. M2 has expanded roughly 5.4% in the last 12 months, adding about $1.2 trillion to the money supply and U.S. debt has now crossed $40 trillion. At the same time, the CRE market has started aggressively dealing with obsolete inventory. Demolitions and conversions of U.S. office buildings exceeded new construction in 2025 for the first time on record, and that gap is expected to widen again this year. And then there is capital allocation... Bitcoin is in the middle of a bear market and is down significantly from where it traded when I made this video. Yet adoption has kept moving forward. $IBIT has roughly $60B in assets. $STRC went from a $2.5B IPO to nearly $10B of notional in about a year. $SATA didn't even exist when I recorded this. Today nearly 8 million shares are outstanding and it is paying dividends every business day 🤯 That may be the most important development of all. Real estate isn't just competing against other real estate anymore. Owners now have entirely new ways to store capital, generate yield and manage a balance sheet. Over the past year I've tried to take that idea from theory to practice. I've had the opportunity to speak about them at roughly half a dozen conferences and events. I launched The Real Estate Standard Podcast to discuss these ideas every week. I published the Bitcoin Playbook for Commercial Real Estate Owners & Investors in conjunction with @TFTC21 (launches next week). And we're now beginning to implement these strategies on actual real estate assets. A lot has changed in one year. I have a feeling the next one is going to be even more interesting.
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Episode 33: Real Estate Firms Lead Bitcoin Adoption @ChrisDrz and @TimKotzman are joined by @benepling for an update on business bitcoin adoption, leading industries, allocation decisions and long-term outlooks. 00:00 Intro 00:45 Unveiling the RES Market Monitor 04:35 Welcome Ben Epling 06:00 Businesses adopting bitcoin at increasing rate 15:00 Real estate-specific approaches 28:00 Stigma of holding Bitcoin 35:30 Bitcoin interest on cash 39:10 Bitcoin-only providers 44:00 Proof of reserves 48:10 Outlook on future adoption 55:00 Closing thoughts
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Episode 32: The State of the Office Market @ChrisDrz and @TimKotzman discuss the latest in U.S. office properties. The good, the bad and how tenants and investors should approach the market place. 00:00 Intro 00:45 Updates on RES pod format 02:00 US office market overview 05:50 Who is leasing office space 08:02 Flight to Quality 15:00 When does distress turn into opportunity 21:35 Advice for tenants 34:48 Headlines to consider 39:55 CRE’s lost decade 43:40 Closing thoughts
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The next generation of real estate operators will not just be real estate experts. They will understand technology. They will understand Bitcoin. They will understand energy. They will know how to vertically integrate. The operators who control their data, costs, and capital stack will have the advantage. Cedar Creek Capital and @westmainstorage are early examples of where this is going. @kenny_alves @AjOsborne1 Watch the full episode @REstandardPod open.spotify.com/episode/0rD…
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