The truth, "was so disturbing that it led individuals involved to resign, suffer mental breakdowns, and in some cases, take their own lives." ~Stratton 👽🔥What Does Jay Stratton Know About UFOs That's Too Disturbing for the Public to Hear? 🔥👽 "One day, the American people will learn the bigger story and how it impacts us all." ~Stratton 🚨 Has Jay Stratton Actually Seen a Recovered UFO? And What Does He Know About Reptilians? 🚨 (This is a very long post, including a lot added by me, but I think it's well worth the time I spent on it. Hopefully, you agree. I think @BretBaier did a great job, but two questions stood out to me: Has Stratton ever personally seen a recovered non-human craft inside a government or contractor facility? And what exactly is so intense about the UFO secret that some believe the American people cannot handle it? In "Out of the Shadows," Stratton wrote about the late Dr. Jim Ryder, who was Vice President at Lockheed Martin Space Systems: "Some of what had been discovered, Ryder told me, was so disturbing that it led individuals involved to resign, suffer mental breakdowns, and in some cases, take their own lives. The truth was just too difficult for them to process." (What could be so disturbing? Did Ryder give him details?) ~~~Full Transcript, with My Additions and Comments~ @BretBaier (BB): "For more insight on these unexplained encounters and reports of non-human lifeforms. I spoke with retired Defense Intelligence, senior executive, Jay Stratton, who has spent more than 15 years investigating UAPs for the U.S. government. We began our conversation on Capitol Hill, where Stratton was one of the first people to brief lawmakers on this topic." ~ BB: "Jay, you served in the U.S. military, national intelligence, almost 33 years." @jaystratto: "Yes, sir." BB: "Long time." Stratton: "Long time, long career." BB: "And you ended up the highest civilian rank." Stratton: Yes, I moved up from the regular GS ranks to the Senior Executive Service, which is the highest a civilian can get, non-appointed. So, it's a career move, and it's a really [big] boost for, I guess, a statement of my capability over the years (laughs), and that I accomplished what I did. And I moved the needle a little bit, enough to get recognized." BB: "But I mean, you served on battlefields, and you served in the Pentagon, you served in the national Intelligence Community." Stratton: "You know, I never thought joining the Army in 1989 that I would be chasing UAP and working this topic. it's an amazing career to have. Almost 33 years. Over sixteen of those were investigating UAP and non-human intelligent life on behalf of the U.S. government. I really feel like, it's been a monumental shift in the culture." ~ BB Voiceover: "The Pentagon has begun declassifying and releasing records about UAPs on a rolling basis now. This follows recent directives from President Trump. Jay Stratton was a central figure in the government's investigation into these sightings and encounters. His new book is called 'Out of the Shadows: Revealing the Truth About Non-Human Intelligent Life.' It comes out tomorrow." ~ BB: "Why'd you write this book?" Stratton: "This book is very important to me. I wanted to get the word out to the people. I've been working behind the scenes for the Last 20 years to get us where we're at today in this Disclosure movement. So it's very important that people understand, the main point is that the world deserves to know the truth about the UAP topic and the presence of non-human intelligent life." BB: "I've read it. It's a page-turner. There's a lot in there that I haven't heard before. You led the government's hunt for this for sixteen years. Simple question: Are we alone?" Stratton: "No, Bret, we're not. Humanity is not the only intelligent life in the Universe, nor do we know the intent of the non-human intelligent life that's here. It's very concerning." BB: "So you say that, but how do you know? Stratton: "Bret, let me take you back to where it started. I was at the Defense Intelligence Agency as the chief of air and space warfare. In that role, I was responsible for emerging and disruptive threats. And also, I had access to our most classified programs. I understood where our technology is and where our technology is going. And I also understood the technology levels of the adversaries. "And it was during that period that a colleague brought to me a video of a triangular UAP flying over a nuclear-missile silo, some of our most secure airspace. And it was flying in ways that I could not comprehend at the time. It was flying in ways demonstrating capabilities that exceeded ours." (This would have been my follow-up: Murgia: "You formed AAWSAP with Dr. James Lacatski. Dr. Lacatski was asked about triangular craft and whether or not the USG has made any progress in reverse engineering them. Watch this clip." @JeremyCorbell: "We hear about all these people on military bases seeing triangles, and you're doing this study, AAWSAP, to try to figure out the physics of how to do that. Do you think it's already been achieved by the U.S. government, or it hasn't, and that's why AAWSAP had a lot of value?" Lacatski: "It hasn't been achieved to its full extent." Murgia: "Nobody expected to see Dr. Lacatski admit that. Jay, is it possible that the triangle you saw in that video was one of ours? Or do you disagree with Dr. Lacatski that we made progress on reverse engineering triangles? "He says not to their full extent but doesn't tell us exactly how far they were able to get. 75%? 90%? "And if we have that world-changing technology, why isn't the human race benefiting from it?" ~Back to BB and Stratton~ BB: "Well, let me read that part from the book. Quote: 'A black triangle aircraft, no wings, no tail, no exhaust, no visible propulsion of any kind. As if the fundamental laws of physics simply didn't apply.' Take me to that day in your life. Somebody hands you that video, taken near this nuclear-weapon-storage site. And what do you see? What do you do?" Stratton: "Well, it's very telling, because in that position with the Defense Intelligence Agency, I was uniquely qualified to identify anything flying in the air or space. So when I'm watching something - as an aerospace engineer - that's demonstrating capabilities that I don't understand and can't comprehend, that was eye-opening and moving for me. I needed to understand this technology, and I needed to understand who had it." BB: "And you considered it a threat." Stratton: "Absolutely, Bret, this is a threat. Because it exceeds our capabilities. We don't understand it, we don't know the intent, and we don't know where it's from." (I can't unhear what Lacatski said, so I hope someone asks Stratton about that. And I am NOT saying that every UFO/UAP sighting is human technology.) ~ BB: "Well, let me just cut to the chase: Does the United States government have non-human craft in its possession?" Stratton: "Yes, it does." BB: "And have you seen one with your eyes?" (To me, BB is asking: With your own eyes, in person, have you seen one of the non-human craft that the USG has in its possession?) Stratton: "I... I have seen non-human beings and non-human craft with my own eyes." BB: "Non-human beings, too?" Stratton: "Yes, sir." (Stratton pretty much said the same words in "Age of Disclosure (AoD).") Stratton in AoD: "I have seen with my own eyes non-human craft and non-human beings." (But as far as I know, in both interviews, he's talking about what he's seen at Skinwalker Ranch and his home, but NOT in a government or contractor hangar.) ~ BB: "Where are these craft now? Are they being reverse engineered? Does the government have them? Is it private companies that have them? Where is this stuff?" (BB is responding as if Stratton was talking about craft that are in the possession of the USG or their contractors, and, again, I don't think that is what Stratton was referring to.) Stratton: "Bret, both the defense-contractor community and the government have craft of non-human origin. There is an ongoing program to capture and reverse engineer this technology. And really, we're in a secret Cold War race to do that." (This is where it could have been clarified. I would ask this:) Murgia: "Just so I'm clear: Have you seen any of the craft you say are being reverse engineered by the USG, with your own eyes, in person? I'm not talking about craft or beings you've seen at Skinwalker Ranch or in/at your home. I'm talking about being allowed into a facility and seeing a craft of unknown origin that is in the possession of the USG or one of its contractors. Has that ever happened?" ~ BB: "Why haven't we heard about this? Why, you know, all of these releases from the government that we have these videos, and some of them are very compelling, others not so much. And people say, 'Well, I wanna see the real stuff.' Why haven't we seen the real stuff?" Stratton: "Well, the people who have had this 80-year monopoly on the topic believe that the secret is so intense that the American people cannot handle it. I believe that there may be aspects of this that are so intense that they can't share it, but they can share with the American people the basic fact that we are not alone. The people can handle that." (In "The Age of Disclosure," he said something very similar... Stratton: "The people behind the Legacy Program truly believe that the secret is so intense that they can’t share it with the American people. There may be aspects of this that are so intense they can’t share it." (This pissed me off when I saw it in the documentary and I posted about it on here. And it pisses me off now. Some people in the Legacy program feel some aspects of the phenomenon are too intense to share with public. Okay, I don't agree that those folks should get to decide what we get to hear, but I understand that's allegedly how they feel and what's going on.) I wanted to hear Stratton say something like this: Hypothetical Stratton: "The people in the Legacy program do NOT get to decide what the world gets to hear about reality, and neither do I. The truth shall set us free and it needs to come out now." Instead, we got this: Stratton in AoD: "There may be aspects of this that are so intense they can’t share it." (No, no, no. They CAN'T share it? MAYBE I could understand if he said: There may be aspects of this that are so intense that we need to prepare people for it and be careful how we release it. But it CAN and SHOULD be shared with the world.) Stratton in AoD: "However, I think the basic fact that we are not alone in the Universe, we can share that with the American people. We can handle it at this point." (I agree. And hopefully, if that ever happens, the media will do their job and dig as hard as they can to find out the alleged "intense" aspects, IF they're still being kept from us. What ARE the alleged intense aspects of the phenomenon? It's possible David Grusch shared some of that on Joe Rogan? Grusch: There are crash retrievals that featured cadavers of beautiful-looking beings that resembled humans, but they had a bluish-white complexion. Grays and Reptilians are real and battle each other in the sky. Reptilians have injured and killed humans. And humans, in turn, killed the Reptilians. If that's true, kudos to Grusch for saying "f*ck it," deciding that we deserve to know, and sharing it. And someone needs to ask Stratton if he knows about ANY of that. Has he seen any of those photos, videos, reports, or spoken to any of the alleged witnesses who make those types of claims? ~ Stratton in AoD: "Hopefully one day, the American people will learn the bigger story and how it impacts us all." (One reason people don't pay close attention to this subject is because they don't see how it affects their daily lives, and they're more concerned about paying the bills and putting food on the table. If it really "impacts us all," and can be proven, that information needs to come out NOW, as it has the potential to get billions of people engaged with the topic and hopefully help us figure out what the hell is going on. And if it's something that is detrimental to humans, maybe we can do something to change it? The potential benefits of Disclosure may outweigh the risks of any societal disruption.) ~ BB: "In the book, you write this: 'Our bait would be a nuclear submarine... Draw a UAP in close enough to monitor, track, and if possible, capture or recover.' So basically, you used a U.S. nuclear submarine as bait. Explain that." Stratton: "I worked on several efforts to do this, and it culminated when I had access to a nuclear submarine that I could put out off the East Coast. And I had a P-3, a Navy submarine-hunting with a lot of different equipment on it. And I parked it out there to try and capture information/data on these, on this UAP. " BB: "What happened?" Stratton: "And it worked. On that very first mission, a UAP appeared, and the P-3 worked to collect on the...and data was collected on that mission." (Data was collected? In the book, Stratton writes this:) "Midway through their patrol, the pilot spotted a UAP: a sphere approximately 6 feet in diameter hovering at their ten o’clock. The crew sprang into action, dropping the radar into position and preparing the cameras for a closer look. But just as quickly as it had appeared, the UAP darted out of sight, slipping below the P-3’s line of vision. "Undeterred, WARLOCK’s crew executed a search pattern, their high-definition cameras sweeping the skies. For two agonizing hours, they circled the area, scanning and recalibrating, but the UAP was gone. "The crew did everything right, they reported back with meticulous detail, but the elusive target had vanished without a trace. "Over the coming weeks, WARLOCK flew several more missions, but there was always some logistical issue that created a hurdle." ~End Excerpt from, "Out of the Shadows"~ (Nothing about data being collected. Unless... "...they reported back with meticulous detail." Does that mean data was collected before the UAP disappeared? If so, what did the data suggest? Or do the UAP Security Classification Guidelines (that Stratton wrote) prevent him from sharing that? How many times has a similar effort been made since then? According to Stratton, in his book, in the sixteen hours Stratton had booked with the P-3 plane and its advanced sensors, only one UAP showed up. Who has the power to use that P-3 for an entire week? Has that been done already? What about the alleged luring efforts that @RepEricBurlison has spoken about? Have they already collected tons of data? If so, then we don't need another P-3 effort. Never mind. 🫠) ~ BB: "You write in the book: 'We've had four UAP encounters in the past week.' This is from two flag officers. 'There's something else. Two flag officers and a commander witnessed a UAP hovering over one of our facilities.' That was the call you got from Top Gun." Stratton: "Yes, Bret. I got a phone call from two flag officers, two different admirals, and a commander who was their senior intelligence officer. And they said, 'Jay, we've seen it with our own eyes'. So these guys are the cream of the crop, and they saw a UAP phase in, was their own words, over the training building on the compound. And it just disappeared as fast as it was there. "Then, the rest of the story, or the more important part of the story, is...in order to really understand that information, I need to get it into the intelligence record. So, I had to get them debriefed. They came to the Pentagon, and a senior officer, someone senior to them - someone who I believe is involved in this Legacy Program, this historic cover-up, the hidden hand, as I call it in the book - intercepted them and convinced them that their reputations are on the line if they make this report. And they didn't make the report." (This is "JT" in Stratton's book. Vice Admiral Jeffrey E. Trussler, the Director of Naval Intelligence who retired in 2023.) BB: "Is that why we haven't seen more of this? You write in the book: 'These people don't play games, Jay.' Somebody talking to you, a friend. 'They've done worse than threaten people to keep their secrets and they'll do it again.' A friend pulls you into his office, tells you this. What does he mean? Does worse than threaten?" Stratton: "Throughout history, Bret, the secrets sometimes are so impactful to our national security, that steps have been taken to remove the problem." BB: "And the people." Stratton: "And the people." (If the Legacy program folks (or someone connected to that) injured or killed people to keep the secret, are they going to argue that the law allowed them to do that? Will they argue that any person blowing the whistle on the truth about UFOs could have, potentially, caused grave harm to the national security of the United States and they had to act to stop it? Will that end up in a courtroom?) BB: "When I first saw you, you were in the documentary, 'Age of Disclosure.' And here's a clip from that, and it raised my eyebrows about Secretary Rubio as well." ~ Rubio in AoD: "We've had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace over restricted nuclear facilities, and it's not ours." Stratton in AoD: "They have both deactivated and activated nuclear weapons with both the United States and Russia." Rep. Andre Carson in AoD: "These are otherworldly things that are performing maneuvers that haven't been seen." Stratton in AoD: "The UAP activity surrounding nuclear weapons is not a historic issue; it's an ongoing issue." ~ BB: "In this book, you go farther than even the documentary went. You've been advising the White House since the President ordered the files released. You think he's seen all the real evidence? Do you think he's in the brief?" Stratton: "No, Bret, I don't think he's seen it. I think he's still being shielded from the truth. And we have to work hard to bring the truth to the president because the president that goes to the microphone to tell the world we're not alone...that's a monumental moment." (If the Trump administration is serious about Disclosure and transparency, why doesn't @StephenM have Stratton come to the White House tomorrow and have him brief Trump on EVERYTHING he knows? Ask Stratton (or Miller) that. Or is it all about maintaining plausible deniability for Trump? This way, Trump can be asked if he knows about non-human craft and bodies, say, "No," and be telling the truth. My friend, Naval Commander Will Miller (Retired), was talking about the use of plausible deniability within the UFO subject and USG back in 2013.) BB: "If an adversary cracks this technology before we do, what happens? Do you think China is trying?" Stratton: "I do. I think China and Russia are both working on reverse engineering craft of non-human origin." BB: "The Pentagon's own UFO office says it found no evidence of extraterrestrials. You say that they're here. Somebody's wrong." Stratton: "Somebody's wrong. And I think that America is gonna pay the price if the truth doesn't win in this situation. The world, deserves the truth." BB: "Critics say, if this is real, why put it in a book that you're selling? Why not say to Capitol Hill, 'I'm here. This is what I know. Let's talk about this'? Stratton: "I've briefed Congress numerous times. I was one of the first to brief Congress on this topic in the modern era in 2007 when I briefed Senator Harry Reid. And I continued that through the rest of the next sixteen years until I left the government and retired. The book, it puts everything in context and it brings it together. It's evergreen (something that stays relevant, useful, or interesting over time. ~Joe). It covers UAP cases over U.S. military bases that haven't been discussed yet. It gives you descriptions and details of recovered craft." (Details on recovered craft were minimal in "Out of the Shadows." On Dr. Phil, David Grusch mentioned, "the disc, the sunfish, boot heel-looking thing, boomerangs, crescent moon-looking craft, Tic Tacs, egg-looking craft and different types of pilots, if you will." Does Stratton agree with all of that?) BB: "But you know, everybody's asking here..." Stratton: "Yeah." BB: "Are they hostile?" Stratton: "Ah. Bret, we don't know the intent. Sad for me to say, after sixteen-plus years of looking at this for the government, and, you know, twenty-plus years of looking at it, we do not know the intent." (We don't know intent. But remember, in AoD, Stratton said: "Hopefully one day, the American people will learn the bigger story and how it impacts us all." If we don't know intent, how do we know how it impacts us all? Abductions? Something else? What's the bigger story?) BB: "Well, Jay, we appreciate you talking to us." Stratton: "Thank you, sir. I appreciate you having me here."