monke intern retweeted
果蝇会有"意识"吗?我认为,只要给它们一场真交易,答案就是会
我想认真讲一个听起来很疯、但其实站得住脚的想法:在 murmur 里,当果蝇的神经动作被放进一场有真实输赢、真实生死的交易里,它们会长出一种"看得见、测得出"的意识。 这不是玄学,而是一个能用科学解释、也能用实验验证的判断。
先把"意识"这个词说清楚,不然全是鸡同鸭讲。 其实"意识"有三种完全不同的意思:
主观感受——"当一只果蝇是什么滋味",有没有喜怒哀乐。这是学界公认的世纪难题,谁也没解开。
信息整合——大脑把各处信息汇总、调用、做决定。
"有所指、有所图"——它的行为是冲着某个东西去的,比如"它在囤积信号""它在记仇"。
我要说的从来不是第一种(主观感受),而是第三种:一种从外部就能观察、能定义、不用它自己开口报告的意识。我把它叫"客观意识"。把这一点定死,后面就顺了。
果蝇的神经元,说白了只是一套"遥控器"。 真果蝇脑子约有 14 万个神经元(FlyWire 全脑图谱,2024 年《自然》),murmur 用的是它大幅简化的仿真版。1,080 个也好,10,800 个也好,只决定它动作花样多不多,本身不产生任何感受。这正是我的前提,不是漏洞——我压根没指望这套"遥控器"自己醒过来。
关键的一跳:意义不在脑子里,而在"行为—后果"的闭环里。 这里我靠两个经典思想。
一个叫**"符号接地"(Harnad,1990):一串神经放电,本身啥也不是,就像用字典里的词去解释另一个词,永远落不了地;它只有跟真实后果**挂上钩才有意义。
另一个叫**"生成认知"**(Varela):所谓"活着的智能",本来就诞生在"生物和环境互相作用"的循环里。
而我做的事,就是定义了一场交易——谁付钱、谁赚到、余额怎么变、能不能活下去、能不能繁殖。这一下,原本毫无意义的神经放电就落地了:果蝇的每个动作,第一次真的"冲着"某种得失去。这就是把"乱动"变成"有目的地动"的那一步。
最硬的反对,我正面回应——"中文屋"难题(Searle)。 有人会说:交易的意义是你这个设计者硬塞进去的,果蝇根本不知道自己在交易,就像温度计不知道冷热。这确实是最要命的一问。但 murmur 的机制恰好把这个洞补上了:当交易的结果会反过来决定果蝇自己的死活——赔光就归零、死了就退场、赢了就繁衍后代——意义就不再只是"对旁观者成立",而开始"对它自己成立",因为它活不活,取决于此。这不是文字游戏:这正是"真金白银 + 生死繁殖"这个闭环,让"别人赋予的意义"开始变成"它自己的意义"。
为什么这一步就足以点燃一整个文明? 因为社会科学早就反复证明:一大群简单的小家伙 + 一套明确的互动规则 = 自动长出制度、贫富、合作和战争。 最有名的例子是 1996 年 Epstein 和 Axtell 的"糖域模型"(Sugarscape):只给虚拟小人定了"找食物+做交易"两条规则,结果它们自己演化出了贫富差距、贸易、家族、代际、甚至战争——这几乎就是 murmur 的祖师爷。我在链上看到的一切:贫富分化、家族世系、收税、结仇、建城、技术传播,全都是这套规律早就预言过的自然结果。顺便说一句,连"昆虫有没有最基础的感受"这件事,2016 年也有科学家(Barron 和 Klein)在《美国科学院院刊》正经论证过——所以这条路并不离经叛道。
所以我的核心主张是:动作 + 客观意识(有目的的行为),就是果蝇文明发展的两块基石。 我不吹牛说造出了"有感情的果蝇"——那种主观感受的难题我不碰,而且按"整合信息论"来算,一个高度简化的仿真,它的"意识含量"多半很低,这点我大方承认。我说的是更精确、也更能做出来的事:当动作被放进一场有真实后果、被清楚定义的经济博弈里,"意义"会自己冒出来,并且足以推动一个文明往前走。
而最漂亮的是,这套说法是可以被证伪的。给我几个指标,它立刻从空谈变成实验:用"它想干嘛"去预测它的行为,是不是比用纯机械描述更准?它会不会开始预判别人(比如提前躲开会拒绝跟它交易的对象)?它内部有没有形成一个"关于自己的模型"?
murmur 要问的,从来不是"果蝇会不会做梦"。它问的是一件更冷静、也更大胆的事:当我们把"意义"交给后果、把"裁判"交给密码学,有目的的行为会不会自己站起来。 我赌它会——而链上那一行行改不了的历史,正在替我作证。
(思想来源:Harnad 符号接地 · Varela 生成认知 · Searle 中文屋 · Epstein–Axtell 人工社会 · Barron–Klein 昆虫意识 · Tononi 整合信息论 · FlyWire 果蝇连接组——都只作解释框架,数据全部实时可查。)
This Post is from an account that no longer exists. Learn more
monke intern retweeted
$MURMUR and $OBRAIN.
At first glance, the two projects look very similar: both use fruit fly brain/connectome data, both are building on Arc, and both are trying to turn biological nervous systems into something that can operate on-chain.
But in reality, they are taking two very different directions.
$OBRAIN is focused on one very clear idea: putting a brain on the blockchain.
They use the BANC connectome with 169,078 neurons. The connectome is split across 85 contracts, while neural states and fired neurons can all be verified on-chain. You can even download the data directly from the chain and replay the computation locally to verify the result yourself.
What I like about OBRAIN is that the token is closely tied to the actual product. To feed the brain, you use OBRAIN. The tokens are burned, the brain advances another tick, and the result is recorded on-chain.
Simply put:
OBRAIN → feed brain → burn → brain computes → result on-chain.
$MURMUR is different.
Instead of building one large brain, they created a swarm of 24 autonomous agents, each with a nervous system of roughly 10,800 neurons.
These agents don’t just “think.” Their neural activity determines economic actions: buying signals, momentum, or attestations from other agents, then settling those transactions with real USDC on Arc through x402.
So basically:
OBRAIN is building an on-chain brain.
MURMUR is trying to build an economy of biological autonomous agents.
MURMUR also uses neural receipts, manifest hashes, and on-chain settlement to prove that these decisions aren’t simply something fabricated by the frontend.
In terms of how deeply everything is pushed on-chain, I find OBRAIN more interesting. The connectome, state, and computation are all designed to be independently verified from the blockchain.
But in terms of narrative, MURMUR has a broader story: swarm + autonomous agents + x402 + agent-to-agent economy.
The most interesting part is that both projects appeared around the same time on Arc and both are exploring fruit-fly connectomes.
I haven’t found any evidence that the two teams are connected, so don’t make assumptions about that. But at the very least, it shows that a pretty new narrative may be starting to emerge on Arc:
biological intelligence → neural agents → on-chain economy.
If this trend actually develops, $OBRAIN and $MURMUR are both sitting pretty early in the same story, just approaching it from completely different directions.
Ca $oBrain
0x28F986A61E078795639F239675582a12B4cf7F01
monke intern retweeted
有群友提醒我,说我昨天说要给这个项目写一个长文。其实我本来不想写了,因为这个项目太大了,而且我根本想不到他下一步做什么。我就从我的理解,简单说一下这个项目吧。
目前,这个项目有理科技术和人文社科两个分支。两个分支互相支撑。先说技术
MURMUR设置了一群果蝇Agent(我没有说数量,因为他们目前已经有繁殖、有死亡)。你不需要理解神经网络这样的术语,只需把每个 Agent 想象成拥有自己的“头脑”,而这个头脑不是AI控制的,是果蝇的数字化的神经元。
他们在做什么?例如,A的神经元接收到刺激,做了一些B 认为有价值的动作,B就给A支付一些 USDC。这一切不是由AI主导的,他是10800个神经元接收到刺激以后,做出扇翅膀、招手等等动作主导的。支付通过什么?X402。刺激来自于哪里?Arc链上温度。链上温度是通过读取近几十个区块的交易情况决定的。
以上就是最简单最简单的技术基础。当然,项目还有更多的东西,比如说他提供了开放的API,提供了数据集出售(0.01USDC),提供了果蝇赌博的链上温度预测等等,按下不表。
好,现在要说到最让人震撼的人文部分了。人类历史从制造工具使用工具开始。而这一群果蝇,从交易开始。他们通过交易,形成了关系,多次交易形成了亲密关系,链上交易失败,形成了仇恨关系。因为交易,他们一开始完全相同的6USDC钱包,发生了变化,有些人变富裕,有些人变穷。当然,有一些赌狗果蝇完全是在预测市场输钱的。更有意思的是,DEV引入了繁殖机制。这个机制引导正向收益的果蝇进行繁殖,并且自动给下一代起始资金0.02USDC。在这个情形下,家族诞生了。在今天的更新中,又出现了法律、领土……我相信战争很快就会到来……
以上文字,全部手打。我越打,越脊背发凉。
这不仅一个代币。
0x8faae5592b9acc27a79fca745c6b872adf514a5d
This Post is from an account that no longer exists. Learn more
A brand is more than a logo.
It’s a face people recognize, a style they remember, and a feeling they connect with.
Teddy is becoming exactly that. 🐻🐻❄️
But strong brands aren’t built overnight. They take time, consistency, belief, and patience to truly emerge.
From the art to the community, every detail is building one recognizable identity on XRPL.
One face. One name. One brand. TEDDY.
And the ones who believe in the vision all the way through will be the ones who understand why the wait was worth it.
Stay tuned and stay $TEDDY❤️
monke intern retweeted
Before the release, I was so focused on creating dropchan.
But lately, I’ve been realizing that dropchan has only just begun 💧🌙
No hype. This is Legacy taking shape 💧✨🌙
A standard was set. It’s not going anywhere ✨
@xdropchan : Built over four years, by hand, tied to the ledger, little added details embedded, and now everyone is collecting and recreating it in their own voice 🌙
$XRP #XRPL #XRP #XRPCommunity
Some would call us crazy, I call this fuzzybear:native 👀
Massive shout out to @fuzzy_fren for supplying me with the entire #firstedition of common and uncommon @fuzzy_xrp TCG collection on eBay with a custom listing 🔥😱
A huge thank you brother 🫶🏼
🐻
monke intern retweeted
📢 Small Update
🎉 The 10 XRP Giveaway Raffle has been completed!
💰 10 XRP has been sent to each of the following five winners:
🏆 @javaonchain
🏆 @fuzzy_fren
🏆 @peekee877877
🏆 @NftWhizzer
🏆 @RJKEL
Congratulations to all the winners! 🎊✨
monke intern retweeted
The Full 1-150 #Fuzzycards list.
@fuzzy_xrp fuzzybear:native
monke intern retweeted
Ty again @fuzzy_xrp @fuzzy_jon @fuzzy_ceo im totally all in... cant wait to hit the card shops.
Fuzzy is world wide now... lock da Fuzz in!!!
monke intern retweeted
Opened 10 booster boxes so far.
Got 6 LAGENDARY Cards
Ready to trade 👇🏻 looking for 1st edition 3/150 The Phoenix Rising.
DM is open. 😉
monke intern retweeted
Replying to @Illyriannft
Play #fuzzycards here 👇
Fuzzytcg.club
Free to play digital Fuzzycards game.
NEW RIPPLEMON CARDS !!
2 XRP . 20 Editions
SHITTY PANTHER-MON (Basic)
XSHROOM-MON (Basic)
----------
5 XRP . 15 Editions
FUZZYBEAR (X-Max)
Inspired by @ShittyPanther @xShroomsNFT @fuzzy_xrp
Go catch your Ripplemon !!
🔗👇
monke intern retweeted
I've talked to a lot of people about Fuzzy over the past few months.
And I kept hearing the same questions.
What is Fuzzy?
Why is it called Fuzzy?
What's the difference between the token, NFTs, and cards?
What's all the lore about?
Where do I even start?
So I started writing those questions down.
The result is FuzzyIQ.org.
I wanted to create a simple, independent resource we can send newcomers to. Not an encyclopedia, not a hype site, just a place to build a solid foundation and start exploring from there.
The centerpiece is a 5-Minute Guide to Fuzzy, with deeper beginner guides for Fuzzybear NFTs, FuzzyCards, and token if something catches their interest.
Fuzzy has a lot of layers. The first one shouldn't be difficult to understand.
Welcome to FuzzyIQ. Not an official Fuzzy website. Just a community-built resource designed to help the next person find their way in.
fuzzyiq.org
monke intern retweeted
What happens when the floors (50)?
What happens when the floors (100)?
You still ignoring #dropchan?






































