NEW: Wiz co-founder Yinon Costica says cybersecurity is in an AI “twilight zone.” @wiz_io scaled from $1M to $100M ARR in 18 months. Google acquired it for $32B, the largest acquisition in Google’s history. I sat down with Yinon at Wiz HQ in Tel Aviv to talk about the AI cyber arms race and how to secure a world increasingly run by agents. His warning: right now, it’s easier for an attacker to use AI to launch an attack than for a company to deploy AI defenses across its entire business. “The attacker needs to find one thing. Defenders have to protect everything all of the time.” His longer-term view is more optimistic. AI could give defenders the ability to secure their entire codebase continuously, with a crucial advantage: they know their own environments better than attackers do. One of the most interesting points: he sees the biggest unsolved problem in cybersecurity as getting companies to actually adopt the tools that already exist. That means building trust in agents, breaking down internal silos and rethinking processes that depend on constant human approval. We also cover: *Meeting his co-founders at 18 at the first day of the IDF *The customer conversations that became Wiz *Building the first AI vulnerabilities researcher *The vulnerabilities they found in DeepSeek *Whether he would give an AI agent access to his credit card and sensitive data *What Google’s models, compute and threat intelligence unlock for Wiz *What their product will look like when more of its users are agents than humans Watch the full conversation: youtube.com/watch?v=qaHFQfnr… TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro 01:15 Meet Yinon Costica, co-founder of Wiz 02:00 Unit 8200 and meeting his co-founders 06:30 Leaving Microsoft to start again 08:30 The customer conversations that created Wiz 11:30 From $1M to $100M ARR in 18 months 14:15 How to scale without breaking 17:15 Wiz Atlas: automating vulnerability research 22:45 Can AI give defenders the advantage? 25:15 Cybersecurity’s AI twilight zone 27:30 Should you give AI agents your credit card? 32:00 Trust, Big Tech and the software supply chain 34:45 Open-weight models and security 36:30 What Wiz found at DeepSeek 38:30 Preparing for AI-powered attacks 43:30 What Google unlocks for Wiz 44:30 How Wiz made the shift to AI 47:15 Cybersecurity’s biggest unsolved problem 50:00 Securing agents with access to sensitive data 52:15 What AI hacking agents can already do 54:00 An internet built for agents 56:15 The human role in cybersecurity 58:30 Is it too early to pick AI’s winners? 59:45 Why the future could be more secure Presented by micro1.ai