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What has become obvious in recent years (though it was visible for decades, and identifiable even longer before) is that division is looming in the Catholic Church. And hiding this does no one any good.
It might be a division between polar opposites, even. It might several groups. But here I think there is a clean break between two groups.
How can I describe this ?
There is something lopsided about being drawn to Catholicism not because of its faithful transmission and guardianship of the original deposit of Christian teaching delivered by the Apostles, but because of how powerfully the Church can adapt through the progressive development of doctrine, drawing on a continual influx of new insights that the “immature lights” of the Apostles, Saints, and Fathers supposedly never knew for two thousand years.
It sickens me to see Catholic apologists focusing so much on the advantage of institutional power that can creatively fix unity in its exploration of new ideas, ever correcting the Fathers of Christianity. It sickens me even more to see clergy throwing down the card of authority to embolden their attainment of novelty while ridiculing the “fundamentalist” (and here, I do not mean the TLM trad, but just even the conservative Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant who unreservedly believes every word of Scripture).
“Well, at least they can develop doctrine with power and authority. At least there is a final court that can tell us which new developments are definitive and which are not. The modern world has brought in so much good that our spiritual ancestors, as great as they were, simply didn’t know about and couldn’t see.”
Is that what we think souls are drawn to?
People today who feel drawn to step out of the darkness of the fallen world and genuinely enter the light of Christ are not looking for what best accommodates modern humanity. They are thirsting for the school of Christ. They want to be His students, learn His teaching, follow His ways, and finally hear that they were good and faithful servants. They want to absorb the faith once delivered, not ever developed. That is really it.
“Oh but Ybarra you don’t really understand development.”
Of course that’s the response. Please spare us the rehearsal. Newman and many of his theological predecessors are rolling in their graves. If you don’t have the eyes to see it, you might never see it.
Lumen Uterque retweeted
The Patriarchate of Georgia was historically neutral during the Great Schism. It maintained communion with both Rome and Constantinople until the Mongol invasions physically cut it off from the West in the mid-13th century.
The great schism has nothing on the internal drama between the Roman Catholic theological schools of thought
When I have time, I will briefly explain why I'm no longer a Thomist. Using ChatGPT and the replies I myself have used over the past few years to answer Scotist and Suarezian objections won't work on me. If they had any weight, I would not have left Thomism, so don't waste time.
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The Catholics are, because of ressourcement, gradually bringing much of their theology into early church boundaries.
However it’s a huge insult that the conciliar reformers thought that bringing more Eastern Christian influence into Catholicism meant making the Novus Ordo. Really
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From “His Broken Body”. What should be clear is that the question of what original sin entails has been described in different ways in BOTH traditions - the clean East vs. West divide isn’t really there and doesn’t seem dogmatic
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The extreme of "papal oracleism" is, at the same time, one of the biggest hindrances to a real communion with the Orthodox, and also to resolving the internal conflict within the Roman Church. I will define papal oracleism below, it's not just infallibility
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Papal oracleism = a type of voluntarism but applied to the Pope. This is held not even by traditional Catholics, but by conservative ones.
"This is good because the Pope said so."
"But what makes it a good command?"
"Because it comes from the Pope."
This is divine command theory
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One of the effects of the Original Sin listed in this Orthodox catechism book from Greece is guilt
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“If even now his Holiness will write us such things ... two hundred fathers find consonant with the former Councils ... he shall hear from us not only ‘Peter has so spoken,’ but also ‘Let the holy hand be kissed which has wiped away the tears of the Catholic Church.’”
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To not scandalize protestants, the Vatican discouraged the use of the "Co-Redemptrix" title for the Blessed Virgin Mary which Orthodox theology accepts. Taking titles from Our Lady doesn't favor relations with the "eastern lung." Sad decision
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The Sacred Heart devotion in the West doesn't separate the physical heart of Jesus from His divine nature; it represents His deified humanity united to His divinity, and symbolizes the love of the entire Person of God the Word. It's the divine nature receiving latria
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Decree 17 from the Council of Jerusalem 1672 defines the Orthodox teaching on the Eucharist, that the bread and wine are transubstantiated into the Body and Blood of Christ and that the Eucharist receives latria (adoration/worship)
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From Geoffrey Hull's book "The Banished Heart". A really good point that's rarely brought up; the liturgical problem in the modern Roman Church is actually one of the biggest barriers to reunion. True ecumenism would therefore have to treat this issue seriously
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A true union of the Eastern Church and Western Church would have to be through a renewal of Tradition. Holy Tradition was the common treasure of the undivided Church of the first 1,000 years, and it was the perceived divergence from it on both sides which ended unity.
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A true union between the East and West can only be a full doctrinal convergence, rather than a shallow or political union like the previous attempts (Lyons, Florence) have largely been, or that false ecumenism on both sides proposes.
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