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>be me
>discover effective altruism
>apparently normal charity is inefficient
>why donate to random sad thing when spreadsheet can tell you optimal sad thing
>fair enough
>buy mosquito nets
>save lives
>numbers look good
>feel powerful
>couple years later
>someone asks an innocent question
>why only count people alive today
>huh
>future people matter too
>obviously
>my grandchildren shouldn't matter less just because they haven't spawned yet
>reasonable.jpg
>keep following logic
>what about their grandchildren
>also yes
>what about people in 500 years
>sure
>5000 years
>why not
>500 million years
>starting to get weird but morality is morality
>open calculator
>humanity could survive for an astronomically long time
>could colonize galaxy
>could have trillions upon trillions of descendants
>maybe digital people too
>maybe simulated civilizations
>maybe dyson spheres full of happy uploaded minds
>calculator starts smoking
>realize currently living humans are rounding error
>8 billion people suddenly looking extremely beta
>future contains potentially 10^something people
>can't even fit beneficiaries in google sheets
>new moral priority unlocked
>protect the long-term future
>stop thinking in units of "people helped"
>start thinking in "fraction of cosmic endowment preserved"
>malaria?
>terrible
>but only kills existing humans
>AI extinction could delete the entire light cone
>nuclear war could permanently derail civilization
>bad institutions could lock in terrible values for ten million years
>someone invents wrong constitution in 2140
>quadrillions suffer
>better fund governance workshop now
>friend says maybe we should improve hospitals
>explain opportunity cost
>friend says hospitals are full of actual sick people
>explain scope sensitivity
>friend stops inviting me to dinner
>need to decide what to fund
>easy
>expected value
>suppose project has one in a million chance of preventing extinction
>sounds tiny
>but extinction destroys 10^50 future lives
>multiply
>mother of god
>$10 million project has expected value of several galaxies
>charity evaluation complete
>someone asks where the one-in-a-million number came from
>expert judgement
>which expert
>us
>how calibrated
>extremely thoughtfully
>reduce estimate to one in ten million to be conservative
>still beats curing cancer by 38 orders of magnitude
>epistemic robustness achieved
>someone says maybe project doesn't work
>assign 20% chance
>still astronomical
>maybe project makes problem worse
>assign 5% chance
>still astronomical
>why 5
>because 30 felt pessimistic
>publish 46-page report
>contains seventeen sensitivity analyses
>every sensitivity analysis begins after assuming intervention has positive sign
>critic says you're multiplying enormous hypothetical stakes by extremely uncertain probabilities
>yes
>that's literally why it's important
>critic says the uncertainty might be structural rather than numerical
>make probability smaller
>critic says no, I mean maybe your model is wrong
>make probability smaller again
>critic begins rubbing temples
>discover AI safety
>perfect longtermist cause
>AI might kill everyone
>or create utopia
>or seize galaxy
>or tile universe with paperclips
>or create billions of conscious software minds
>finally a problem with numbers big enough for me
>start AI safety nonprofit
>mission: prevent dangerous AI
>hire smartest people available
>smartest people immediately start building better AI to understand dangerous AI
>interesting
>we must understand capabilities to understand safety
>we must scale models to study alignment
>we must race ahead so less responsible actors don't get there first
>we must deploy systems to learn how deployment can go wrong
>we must build the thing quickly because building the thing quickly is dangerous
>outsider asks why the people most worried about AI apocalypse all work at AI companies
>complicated field
>company releases stronger model
>very concerned
>company begins training even stronger model
>extremely concerned
>company raises $14 billion
>concern reaches unprecedented levels
>need to influence government
>future is at stake
>normal democratic process too slow
>politicians don't understand exponential curves
>public doesn't understand x-risk
>experts must guide them
>who counts as expert
>people who understand x-risk
>who understands x-risk
>our friends
>someone objects that this seems politically convenient
>explain we're representing future generations
>future generations unavailable for comment
>develop concept of value lock-in
>terrifying possibility that one ideology controls civilization forever
>therefore extremely important that civilization adopts correct values before lock-in
>whose values
>let's circle back
>begin with impartial morality
>end with small group of people deciding what quadrillions of hypothetical beings would want
>beautiful arc
>meanwhile actual humans keep doing annoying things
>voting wrong
>having parochial attachments
>loving family more than strangers
>caring about local community
>getting upset when told their suffering is cosmically negligible
>evolutionary biases everywhere
>explain that moral intuition cannot be trusted
>except intuition that future digital people count
>and intuition that extinction is uniquely bad
>and intuition that our probability estimates are sane
>and intuition that our institutional choices improve the future
>those intuitions survived peer review
>someone donates $5k to local homeless shelter
>inefficient
>could have funded 0.0000000000003% of an AI governance researcher
>think of all the simulated people you just killed
>okay maybe don't phrase it that way publicly
>PR team says "future generations deserve a voice"
>much better
>journalist asks what longtermism means
>say "future people matter"
>everyone agrees
>great
>journalist asks what follows from that
>well technically we should redirect enormous resources toward low-probability interventions affecting astronomical futures
>journalist raises eyebrow
>return to "future people matter"
>motte has entered the chat
>critic: of course future people matter
>me: glad we agree
>critic: I don't agree that your institute knows how to help them
>me: why do you hate our grandchildren
>eventually notice uncomfortable implication
>if future value dominates everything
>then helping people today mostly matters through effects on future
>education matters because future institutions
>health matters because future productivity
>democracy matters because future trajectory
>human beings slowly become instrumental variables in their own moral philosophy
>see starving child
>feel compassion
>check spreadsheet
>child's direct welfare contribution negligible
>but perhaps childhood nutrition improves national institutional quality
>compassion restored
>tell myself this is impartial altruism
>one day assistant asks obvious question
>"how do you know your intervention actually improves the far future?"
>silence
>open spreadsheet
>increase column width
>add confidence interval
>assistant asks again
>"no, I mean how do you know the sign is positive?"
>stare into cosmic light cone
>10^50 people staring back
>none of them exist
>none of them can tell me
>none of them can falsify my assumptions
>realize I have invented the perfect constituency
>infinitely important
>completely silent
>and always represented by me
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If you want the Seahawks to wear these in the Super Bowl, sign the petition..aka repost. 10k reposts and it's a 90% chance it happens
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JH Bavinck lamented Christians who are quick to judge how “radicals” react to their suffering, rather than first empathizing and confessing our guilt in their suffering:
“All over the modern world voices are raised of bitter revolt and rebellion, of a desire to overturn our entire civilization. We object to the cries and the demands of these radicals, and we have reasons to do that. Still, sometimes the sad truth grips us that we have failed miserably to sympathize with the sufferings and the needs of these people who are filled with such a fierce hatred against our modern society.
We hardly give a thought to how we would feel if we experienced their suffering and want. Is it any wonder that in so many cases these people in their misery and poverty have become bitter and try to seek their welfare and happiness in directions where it is never to be found? Often we are too severe in our judgment and do not seem to be moved at all by the suffering and the want we see all around us. We have concocted a set of principles and a line of thought, and argue and philosophize much. But now that we are faced with the terrible judgment that hangs over our entire world, we become conscious of the fact that our lack of interest and sympathy is to a great extent to be blamed for the insanity that now prevails.
Our voices seem to have a hoarse and husky sound in the world. For we see in how many things we have been self-centered, even in the things that we imagined were concerned with Jesus Christ and His Kingdom.
We Christians in the modern world are beginning to realize that we, too, have been infected by what we see round about us. We have become as avaricious as others, and as hateful. We have become estranged from each other through all kinds of feuds and misunderstandings, as people round about us are estranged from each other through selfishness and cruelty. And the great and mighty figure of Jesus Christ, who always moved toward His worst enemies with unfathomable mercy and with deep sorrow over their miseries, slowly disappears before our eyes. We do not recognize him anymore.”
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“What Wordsworth could not write of was the recovered sweetness of the redeemed soul. Herbert not write of it in this poem, either, but elsewhere he did, in Love (III), the most exquisite poem in English expressing the time when … pure sweetness returns forever.”
—Helen Vendler
Kyle Dunn retweeted
When Robert Frost was a young man he was in Boston at the Old Corner Bookstore and saw a book of poems by Francis Thompson. He only had enough money for train fare to get home, but he spent it on the book and walked the 25 miles instead.
Kyle Dunn retweeted
It's been a year since my book on Shakespeare was published. You can find it here (wipfandstock.com/97816667383…) and in other places.
That said, I've got an extra copy kicking around, so if you retweet this, I'll put your name in a hat etc., and maybe you'll just get it for free.
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May you be as independent minded as Marilynne Robinson, who when asked by WSJ to recommend 5 books chose only ones published before 1564.
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John Calvin on protecting refugees from anti-immigrant hate.
"If you must shed blood, let mine be first."
Kyle Dunn retweeted
The whole town is lit up with purple. Thank you, Seattle! Let’s make tomorrow special. 💜
#PurpleReign #GoHuskies
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Same story, same mission.
Tomorrow.
#CFBPlayoff #PurpleReign
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That is to say, Faith gives rise to action by opening the self to the prospect of its own fulfillment in the objectivity of reality.- Oliver O’Donovan
