@HistoryAndSuch

Brit in America with a basic interest in current affairs. Views are my own. Avatar = Willem Arondéus (tell people homosexuals are not cowards).

Joined December 2017
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The Tories seeing which way the Overton Window is going?
The Telegraph
@Telegraph6h
Britain will face riots like France unless migration is cut, Kemi Badenoch has warned. 🔗:telegraph.co.uk/politics/202…
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History Girl
@HistoryGirlBWOct 19
“It has always been easy to hate and destroy. To build and to cherish is much more difficult.” - Queen Elizabeth II, 1957
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I don't doubt there are times when the state creates nannying laws because they don't trust the public but we've also gotten to the stage where members the public don't have a concept of 'unwritten rules' or situational awareness which necessities the state to act like a parent.
Zelex@OBEhizeleOct 19
I suspect this will be difficult to enforce consistently, but laws also help shape national consciousness by establishing social norms. Consideration for others in shared public spaces should be instinctive, without the need for legislation. But here we are.
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The irony is if Reform UK didn't exist most of the 'centrist dad' types wouldn't much like Kemi Badenoch and would complain that she's too divisive. She'd be as reviled as Braverman and Lee Anderson were as Tory MPs. It's only because of Farage she's a useful buffer for now.
MR B.E 🇬🇧
@British_EnjoyerOct 18
Unbelievable levels of delusion on display.
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Having edited Wikipedia myself a problem is the sources permitted which leads the articles into a political slant - the Mail is 'unreliable' (fair) but The Guardian (which contains opinion pieces on turds and how Christmas is evil) and HnH are considered 'reliable.'
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@paxangloceltaeOct 18
“Two-tier policing conspiracy theory”. Just incredible. Reform UK - a mainstream centre-right political party - listed as a far-right organisation. Rupert Lowe - a Tory-coded Boomer - described as a far-right politician. Lmao. Remember, the Reddit mods and the Wikipedia editors are the same people.
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Can we just admit the whole Gaza thing isn't a simple concern for human rights but is a cult divorced from sanity and the Palestinian flag is the MAGA cap of the left?
The Telegraph
@TelegraphOct 18
Pro-Gaza activists sell ‘Palestine poppy’ before Remembrance Day telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/10…

Pro-Gaza activists sell ‘Palestine poppy’ before Remembrance Day

Profits from enamel pin donated to charities ‘working to end occupation’ of Palestinian territories

telegraph.co.uk
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I'm very agnostic on capital punishment but I don't think this is quite the 'gotcha' ITV thinks it is. I'm pretty sure if they interviewed some of the Gaza Independents they would probably express quite similar views on violent crime tbh.
GB Politics
@GBPolitcsOct 17
🚨NEW: In ITV's undercover investigation, a Reform UK councillor in West London said that he would "quite happily" personally execute grooming gang members in the garden of 10 Downing Street "without f*cking thinking for a second about it"
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He's basically Mothin Ali of the Green Party in a nice suit; surface level projects the kumbaya "trans/Muslims/minorities under the rainbow unite, down with the Mail!" but if ITV got him on candid camera (and there's already receipts) he'd be outed as a bigoted and extreme person
History And Such@HistoryAndSuchOct 18
I've never got why Mehdi Hasan was pushed as an intellectual thinker when he's just an unpleasant man in general but he's very the definition of "I'm as British as you are so I can gatekeep and dictate terms but also f*ck the West" so that's probably why progressives lap him up.
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I've never got why Mehdi Hasan was pushed as an intellectual thinker when he's just an unpleasant man in general but he's very the definition of "I'm as British as you are so I can gatekeep and dictate terms but also f*ck the West" so that's probably why progressives lap him up.
Andrew Fox
@Mr_Andrew_FoxOct 18
Just so weird when someone living in the UK called Mehdi Hasan makes this argument. His family comes from India. I’m not sure he's thought the argument through to its unpleasant conclusion.
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And in other news the pope is also a Catholic.
GB Politics
@GBPolitcsOct 17
🚨NEW: The Home Office identifies Muslim news outlet 5Pillars as an "Islamist extremist group", documents show [@StevenEdginton]
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In any broad movement there will be cranks. That doesn't excuse extremism and yes, there is bias against Reform. I'm sure if ITV secretly filmed some Greens they'd uncover stuff deemed a national security risk, but Reform are walking into obvious traps thrown out by the media too
History And Such@HistoryAndSuchOct 17
Sections of the media were always going to have a bias or dislike against Reform UK and try tripping them up, so I am in broad agreement to the question of why the left don't get the same treatment, but on Reform's side they should have anticipated this and had better guardrails.
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Sections of the media were always going to have a bias or dislike against Reform UK and try tripping them up, so I am in broad agreement to the question of why the left don't get the same treatment, but on Reform's side they should have anticipated this and had better guardrails.
Mike Jones
@technopopulistOct 17
The infiltration of Reform UK is genuinely one of the most revolting, anti-democratic and dangerous things I have seen in British politics in my lifetime. I have been critical of how Reform UK has operated, but this is just utterly revolting.
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'But rioting is part of French culture' 🙄
Zac Goldsmith
@ZacGoldsmithOct 17
These degenerates can destroy, but they can only dream of being able to create something so beautiful. The French govt could have chosen to protect this and other historic sites. Instead it chose to indulge the savages. What a mess
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I have no time for people like Young Bob, Steve Laws and Charlie Tate - they are genuinely obscene people but they're also consequences not causes for the most part. This whole 'omg how did young men end up like this, what can we do?' is fighting monsters of your own creation.
History And Such@HistoryAndSuchOct 17
Yes it's a bit of a mystery after using the education system to shoehorn rubbish about white privilege, Britain being the worst villain in history, masculinity inherently bad and then confining kids indoors with social media being the only outlet that we've ended up with this.
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The problem is we've never articulated a strong civic identity of what people are expected to assimilate into and serve politically. We ended up with 'British values' which means anything from simply liking the king to the right to indulge in whatever behaviour you like.
Mark Mantis@TheGhostSleepi1Oct 17
Exactly this. You can't claim "I'm just as British as you" whilst indulging your foreign ethnic special interest politics & get shirty when British people decide to do the same.
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I do find myself agreeing with the 'two-tier' argument here. Maybe as a gay man I have a higher shock threshold but while I do get objections to porn it's curious how the British state goes Mary Whitehouse on certain things for the majority but is highly permissive for others.
History And Such@HistoryAndSuchOct 17
So we have the power to ban roleplayed incest but not actual incest? Riiiiiight.
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Yes it's a bit of a mystery after using the education system to shoehorn rubbish about white privilege, Britain being the worst villain in history, masculinity inherently bad and then confining kids indoors with social media being the only outlet that we've ended up with this.
Obadiah Mbatang@residentadviserOct 17
He was 14 in 2020. That Young Bob kid is same age. What have we done? Can’t overgeneralise but something is not right with young men/boys.
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So we have the power to ban roleplayed incest but not actual incest? Riiiiiight.
BBC News (UK)
@BBCNewsOct 16
Porn showing choking or incest to be banned from early November, government says bbc.in/3TF2Ijx

Porn showing choking or incest to be banned from early November, government says

The move follows a review into pornography regulation in 2025 by Conservative peer Baroness Gabby Bertin

bbc.co.uk
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Why I caution against NPC 'far-right/fascist' talk against all national populist parties as lumping them is like comparing Nirvana's style of rock music to Pink Floyd's. There's the Sweden Democrats and RN who have genuinely moderated vs AfD and Dutch FvD which went the other way
Obadiah Mbatang@residentadviserOct 16
Funny how the AfD - which was just a bunch of academics who didn’t like the Euro - has essentially become a racist party with fascist apologists. And how the FN - a fascist party - had gone further and further in opposite direction. That her father even endorsed a Jew over her.
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I can understand being a broad church but there are times when a church becomes so broad it contains people who believe in nothing. The Tories need to decide what side they want to fall down on or like over Brexit they'll tear themselves to shreds.
Chris Rose
@ArchRose90Oct 14
15% of Tory MPs failed to vote their own motion to leave the ECHR. Even if we factor in the odd one for pairing, it’s still concerning. If this is an example they show in opposition, can we trust them again in government?
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