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Dialectic 55: Dan Lilienthal & José Chayet - As [untitled] as it Comes Dan and José run @uuuntitleddd, a sacred place for work-in-progress music. They aren't trained engineers, designers, or musicians, but have built a platform that hundreds of thousands of artists—from 16-year-olds on their first record deal to Lorde—use to store, listen to, and work with their music. Lorde also recently released XRAYS on [untitled]: 49 demos, the sonic museum behind her album Virgin. Dan & José are also childhood best friends. I talked to them about the adventure so far, empathy as a product strategy, and their quest to build the biggest music company in the world. Timestamps: (0:00) Opening Highlights (1:24) Intro to Dan & José (4:42) Start: Brackets, How Creativity Makes the World Bigger, and Music's Connection to the Divine (20:40) Duchamp, Music as a Set of Choices, and The Museum Behind the Work (27:52) [untitled]: A Medium for Music In-Progress (45:03) From a Better Dropbox to a Creativity Company (52:13) Empathy as a Product Philosophy and The Collaboration's Origins (1:01:04) Scaling the Sacred Place and Product Intuition (1:10:33) Lorde's XRAYS Drop and Designing for a Wide Range of Artists (1:17:26) 10K Unheard Songs and Whether Process Should be Seen (1:24:10) Brand, Trust, Alignment with Artists and the [studio] (1:30:54) The Word "Sacred" and Resisting the Feed (1:40:52) AI as an Instrument: Building Tools Artists Actually Want (1:49:27) Building a Company with Your Best Friend (1:56:31) Closing Questions: Dream Users, Rapid Fire Brackets, and Titles @dialecticpod with @danchotweets @josechayet available below and on all platforms. Links below.