Hi Tom. Deleting your X account won't save your job security. Maybe you should be a better human to your customers. @Joh_Burg @asha_shar @ChrisMetzen xitter.cf/search?q=be%20a%20bett…

refunds are instant since its a pre-order. doesnt matter how many hours youve played on the beta cause the game isnt technically released yet.

Reminder to keep your character names in the Forever Beta respectful and within policy. Forced name changes are going into effect and users with the most extreme violations have been removed from the Beta. More info: blizz.ly/47he542

Remember, if you've been here since the very beginning and supported WoW through all the highs and lows... This ONE Dev says WoW Forever isn't for you. He says he's making WoWF for the players who quit in cata and then played Classic for a few months in 2019.

NetEase just announced a crackdown on paid WoW addons and related monetization in China. Addons must be free: no paid unlocks, VIP tiers, subscriptions, pay-per-use features, or paid WA/config sharing. Ads, donation solicitation in-game, and unauthorized collection of player data are also prohibited. They’re explicitly encouraging a free, open addon ecosystem while allowing pure voluntary donations that don’t grant any addon benefits. This is a pretty major shift for the WoW CN addon ecosystem.

These people are the most petulant crybaby bullies in existence. Do not be like these losers. They are so incredibly insecure and retarded that they have to pitch a fit because a dev had the gaul to come out and say the obvious thing, giving them less fuel to gaslight you with.

When retail WoW Andys think their DPS check Mythic+ requires skill.

I'm seeing a lot of discourse about who WoW Forever is being made for and while I cannot speak for anyone else on the team I can speak for myself. I am making WoW forever for the classic gamer and for the millions of people who have had their accounts lapse over the years because they were not satisfied with changes that were made to the game. Whether those changes were to the art style, the story, social aspects, game design, or changes to their favorite class. I did not spend the last year of my life relearning and mastering how to do things like we did it 20+ years ago for retail players. I could have taken it easy and just kept doing things like I had done for the past 8 years on retail...because I was much more familiar with it and it actually takes a lot less time to do (height maps on textures do a ton of heavy lifting). Because the reality is that the majority of retail players wouldn't care and would probably actually prefer it. But I felt I had a duty to uphold an artistic vision and integrity that millions of people expect from us. But not just for our players, but for my co-workers past and present who worked on it over 20 years ago. If I could not create something that resembled their work then I failed not only them...but myself. Please do not take this as me throwing any shade at retail players or the retail team because I am one myself...but I wanted to make Forever as authentic of a Vanilla experience as possible. This involves making decisions wildly different than retail. It means holding the line against changes that create a domino affect down the road. It means keeping friction and inconveniences in the game. It means finding friends and forming groups with strangers and being social!! Because WoWs social aspects have always been the pillar of the game and over the years it has slowly been chiseled away at with changes that allow you play alone. Since the day I started working on the Riverglades I have lived by three sayings. "Convenience is the death of the journey." "If you're making a game for everyone then you're making it for no one." "Every change we make incurs a debt to the authenticity of the game and sooner or later that debt will be paid." These are my core beliefs and I had a specific group of people I was targeting with my work. These beliefs cannot be shaken and I will try to hold the line against anything that goes against them and will continue to pester the team about things that feel out of place. That being said, my hope is that Forever will pull in as many people as possible, whether you are a retail gamer, a classic gamer, someone who hasn't played in years, or even a new player. I hope you can all remember what made this game so special in the first place and that starts with understanding why we are so passionate about keeping it authentic.

After hitting 20 (and leveling multiple alts) here are some WoW Forever thoughts: Pros: - New rendering tech is jaw-dropping. - Camping is a wonderful way to give value to the players around you (and humanize them). - New Dungeons are incredible and feel VERY Vanilla. - New quests in old zones feel natural. - Professions are solid (but could be a bit more) - It's Classic so it plays beautifully and feels like an MMO :) Mixed: - Class changes are TBD. Barely felt anything on a hunter, a bit more on a few other specs. - Power in general FEELS higher, but this could be my experience with Classic. - Perfectly stated items in each dungeon take away some excitement of "the first blue". - Megaserver kind of ruins a communal server identity (but DOES have other benefits, so i'm mixed). - Minimal communication about horizontal progression systems that aren't just "rare gear" and small buffs for making alts. Bad: - Zephras Isles feels identical to a Cataclysm zone in pacing, density, and aesthetics (still pretty, though) - Lack of SD toggle on Skyborn is jarring. - Every new model/asset is VERY noticeably different (in art style) than the Vanilla aesthetics of the overworld, making the game stylistically incoherent in places. Not sure why they couldn't invest in an asset production pipeline that actually created classic-looking assets, and the silence on this matter makes me nervous that there will be a harsh line between what is "new" and what is "old". Overall: I think Forever is a good game and I am enjoying the beta. The biggest issues (to me) are the lack of visual cohesion between new and old assets & the questionable depictions of what horizontal progression looks like at max. I am excited to play on release!

Gatekeeping is good. + was made because classic players hated retail. Please by all that is holy do not capitulate to these people. They don't want to "share" the game, they want to take it over and then tell you if you don't like it you can get out.

Fully expecting some pushback on this and that’s fine, we’re adults. But maybe having the premade group finder from modern in Forever wouldn’t be so bad? Not the teleporting one, but the one you use for M+, raids etc. We do have the LFG Tool from Era in Forever, which is similar but a bit more manual. I’m just not sure how much it’ll actually be used at launch.

Yep, this. This is one of those things that we simply must hold the line on. I think there are other things we can do to help alleviate some frustration here but shared tagging is not it. It’s hard to see the value in something like this when you are frustrated in the moment but it is extremely important to our social pillar to maintain some of this friction.

WoW Forever really cool concept, shame it's filled with retards who gatekeep it and have beef with retail WoW players who also happen to like classic as well. really wish Blizzard just never catered towards these idiots who bashed their game for years and whined until they got what they wanted. "you don't like WoW? play something else" instead of whining for the company to bring you the older iteration of the games. should've just shut down the private servers and left their playerbases to rot