Riley Gaines and Lia (Will) Thomas both placed an identical 1:43:40 in the Women's 200 Yard Freestyle at the NCAA championships. Thomas was arbitrarily given the award. The answer to Riley Gaines' question "Why?" captivated and stunned Joe Rogan: "We have been advised as an organization, that when photos are being taken, that it's crucial that the trophy is in Lia's hands." Gaines: "I felt guilty for participating in the farce." "I wasn't necessarily scared to approach the topic, I just thought someone else would. I thought a coach would say something, I thought someone with political power, someone within the NCAA. Quite honestly I thought someone's dad would come down there and yank this man out of our locker rooms." "What we're applauding is our own erasure, our own demolition. How in world can we as women, expect someone to stand up for us, if we aren't even willing to stand up for us. This has to come from us."