APFX77 retweeted
Managed to catch NQ longs, another $125K+ payday is incoming with @VestExchange
I think I will be able to pass you @DamnGoodTrading with this payout 😉👊
APFX77 retweeted
You want that 1k payout so bad, you want that 10k, you want that $100k
Everything will be a distant memory soon enough
Your only job is to just never quit
It’s more then possible
And before you realize it 5 figure weeks will be your your new normal
And before you know it you will now be chasing 100k a week
Enjoy the process and just getting to the best person you can be
Chasing money is a never ending game
It never sleeps
So just enjoy what your doing, and if you can’t,maybe this game isn’t for you
wait wait wait…
so what no ones doing a sale tomorrow?!
oh hell no…
i got this no worries
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APFX77 retweeted
A fresh match-up for everyone!
@tminnzy vs @akaNemsko
One of these players will net their first win today...
who's it gonna be?
Post your prediction below ⬇️
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PLEASE COPY THIS EVALUATION PASSING STRATEGY.
if you keep blowing $50K evals, STOP copying trading X guys full porting evals with 3-5 minis.
some get unlimited evals. others have $50K+ in payouts.
YOU haven't even gotten your first $1K payout yet.
here's how i'd approach this:
first of all, understand something.
that influencer passing $50K evals in 3–5 minutes?
he's NOT in the same position as you.
some have affiliate deals giving them discounted or free evals.
others have already made $50K+ in payouts, so full-porting an evaluation might make sense for THEIR risk tolerance.
BUT NOT YOURS.
you haven't even gotten your first payout yet.
why the F*CK are you risking an entire evaluation on one trade?
let's get your first $1K payout before trying to trade like someone who's already made six figures.
you literally need TWO things:
a tested 2–2.5R strategy (I use the @TTrades_edu fractal model)
a risk management plan that gives you a realistic shot at passing
that's it.
/1 THE PASSIVE APPROACH
ONE GOOD TRADE A DAY.
this is for traders who have some experience, a tested model, but still struggle to pass evaluations consistently.
let's use a $50K futures evaluation with:
$3,000 profit target
$2,000 starting drawdown buffer
40% consistency rule
ONE A+ setup per day
an A+ setup means your BEST setup.
not some random entry you convinced yourself was good because you desperately need to pass.
now here's the risk plan.
/2 SPLIT YOUR DRAWDOWN INTO 5
$2,000 / 5 = $400.
that's your planned risk per trade.
at 2.5R:
risk $400
target $1,000
3 winners = $3,000
3 wins + 2 losses = $2,200
4 wins + 2 losses = $3,200
see how simple the math is?
you don't need to full-port your account.
you don't need to pass in 5 minutes.
you need to EXECUTE.
with a 40% consistency rule, three $1K winners on separate days would meet a $3K target before costs.
three wins and two losses wouldn't be enough, and a fourth winner would bring you to $3,200.
of course, that's an example, NOT a guaranteed outcome.
/3 THE MOST IMPORTANT PART
those five $400 risk blocks are NOT five guaranteed chances to lose.
fees exist.
trailing drawdown exists.
your account's loss floor can move.
and if your next loss would breach that floor, YOU DON'T TAKE THE TRADE.
this is still aggressive sizing relative to a $2K buffer.
if your model, execution, or risk tolerance can't support it, size down.
the whole point is to give yourself a structured plan instead of blindly gambling.
/4 STOP RUSHING THE EVALUATION
this is where most traders mess up.
they take a loss.
then immediately start looking for another entry.
then another.
then another.
before they know it, they're down $1K and trying to make everything back in ONE trade.
STOP.
one A+ setup per day.
if it's not there, DON'T TRADE.
if the target doesn't offer enough room for 2–2.5R, DON'T FORCE IT.
the market will be here tomorrow.
your evaluation might not.
/5 FOCUS ON GETTING PAID FIRST
forget the guys posting $10K days.
forget the full-port screenshots.
forget passing an evaluation in 3 minutes.
your FIRST objective should be to build consistency, protect your funded account, and work toward that first payout.
once you actually understand your edge and have real payouts behind you, you can reassess how aggressively you want to trade evaluations.
but right now?
STOP TRYING TO SKIP THE PROCESS.
you don't need to look like a successful trader on X.
you need to BECOME ONE.
btw, i broke down different approaches to passing $50K futures evaluations, including risk sizing, consistency rules and the drawdown math, here:
propfirmmonitor.com/research…
read it BEFORE buying another evaluation.
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The two-step costs $90 instead of $375 because of one rule: a 3% daily loss limit. $750 a day on a $25k account.
To a discretionary trader that reads brutal, and Vest prices it that way. 76% off
To a coin flipper it is close to free. Your odds of passing are a distance: room divided by (room + target). That ratio doesn't contain your bet size. Full port $1,500 or bet $650, the pass rate is the same number. More trades cost you fees, and that is about a point of pass rate.
So you you get a 76% discount to accept a constraint that costs you almost nothing. You just have to never actually touch it. Stop for the day after a loss and a $650 bet never reaches the $750 limit.
The second phase does cost you. Pass rate is cut in half, 36.4% to 18.7%. But the price drops to a quarter.
Halve one, quarter the other, and the only number that matters - what you spend to end up holding one funded account - falls from $1,029 to $481.
The prize is identical either way. Same $1,500 drawdown, same 80% split. A funded account is worth about $1,150 on both.
Same payout. Less than half the entry fee.
APFX77 retweeted
If we learned one thing from Open 1, it's that every Match Day counts. 👏
🏆 Official PTL Leaderboard presented by @NinjaTrader
APFX77 retweeted
What an overnight trade on @MyFundedPerps - It would have hit my TP of 8900 but had to run out.
APFX77 retweeted
One thing nobody tells you about being in your mid-50s is that your ambition doesn’t really diminish.
You still want to build things, make money, get fitter, learn new stuff and generally improve your lot.
The difference is you’re increasingly aware that time isn’t quite the unlimited resource you once thought it was.
It’s a strange combination. Still feeling like you’ve got everything ahead of you, while knowing you’ve probably got more behind you.
I’m not sure whether that makes you more motivated or more philosophical.
Depends what day you ask me.
I had been in Lanto’s Discord from early 2023 until earlier this year. I defended him from naysayers in the group and on X, distilled his content into guides early on, and built the chatbot that new members used. This weekend’s fiasco confirmed conclusively what OGs had been flagging for some time.
Fintwit prop firm influencers are “successful” through survivorship bias and volume, not edge.
Buy enough independent attempts and pure luck eventually produces large winners, even when the underlying approach has little or no positive expected value once net on the portfolio is established. Those big runs are the ones that the public gets to see. The average guy in the audience is running 2, 4, maybe 5 accounts on average while paying discord fees to "learn how to trade"
Recent public examples among many in the fintwit affiliate and influencer space:
@dhesi_trades - 170+ accounts
@thebrianstonk - 240+ accounts
@lanto_trades - 819+ accounts
5-6 in eval or S2F fees on just one firm.
Eventually something hits. The run gets screenshotted and turned into content that's used for the next 10 months of promotions for the group, or pushed in promo videos encouraging use of an affiliate code. The costs typically don't see the light of day. Screenshots get cropped (usually), account numbers are hidden, the actual PNL on the machine is kept private.
The machine:
1. subscription fees, course sales, and affiliate commissions fund more accounts
2. more accounts make a big winner close to inevitable
3. the big runs, sell more subscriptions, courses, and garner more aff code use
Repeat.
The prop firm space is inherently dirty, relies on ponzinomics, and is unfixable; it's by design.
But the affiliate and furu space - that props implicitly encourage - is dirtier.
Fresh cash from courses, subs, and affiliate payouts keeps the account volume flowing so the occasional big payouts can be marketed as a skill taught to their followers.
The trading can lose money, but the machine still wins, because the audience pays for step 2 of the machine.
Now look at what's sold. Courses, discord subs, mentorships, and an implied promise to teach a skill to escape the rat race.
Learn this IFVG. Take this unicorn. Manage your risk. Trade the system. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and use code DUMB.
The average member can't play the volume game and nobody tells them that is in fact their mentor's game.
I left for three reasons: the quality of members in the group declined after the TPT run-up and subsequent repeat promotions leveraging that run, OGs who asked questions were treated poorly, and some kept raising exactly the disclosure issues that surfaced this weekend.
Buy enough attempts.
Hide or minimize the cost.
Market the winners as skill.
Accept money from people who cannot realistically replicate the process.
You can pick whatever word or phrase you want for this machine that is pervasive in this "industry."
Mine is "fraud."
APFX77 retweeted
You realize how many accounts 800 is?
Thats 40 per day
Which means he bought the maximum of 10 accounts … 4 times per day
For an entire month
And only managed to get 1 payout
How can you possibly be so bad at trading?
Thats a payout rate of roughly 1%…
Lanto might be the worst trader in the space with that record
Let me introduce you to the Big 3: @lanto_trades, .@thebrianstonk, and @dhesi_trades.
Two days ago, @thebrianstonk posts that the GOAT Lanto grabbed ten of the new $50K Vest accounts and is already up $200K. "Some people say $700 is too expensive." Then, right on cue, use code SMART. Screenshot straight from their group chat. And there's @dhesi_trades in the replies: "His spend is so low too 🤣🔥"
Spend so low. @lanto_trades told people he spent $21K. His screenshots show Accounts 41 through 50, all renamed, all with the same "A" icon instead of the account number. Then he posts his big $483K payout and forgets to crop the top of the screen, where it says Account 819. Deleted it fast, but not fast enough. Suddenly it's "full transparency coming soon," and today he's posting "there are expenses" and "when I made $2M on TPT, I spent over $300K." Funny how the expenses only show up after the screenshots do.
This is the whole business model. One posts the P&L, one hypes it, one drops the code. Every win ends with a link. Nobody posts the blown accounts, nobody posts the real spend until they're forced to, and the payout screenshot is the ad. These aren't trading educators. It's a marketing team with a group chat.
And this isn't a Vest thing. I've watched them run this same play with prop firm after prop firm for years, and they're not the only ones. Half the big streamers in this space do the exact same thing. New firm drops, new code, new screenshot, same script. People call it out, it blows over for a week, and then you're all right back in their replies calling them the GOAT and buying whatever they told you to buy.
Because let's be honest, most of you aren't there to learn. You're there for the entertainment. The big numbers, the hype, the "bro that's 200K" in the chat. It's a show, and you're paying for the tickets with your eval fees.
So at this point, if you're still buying accounts off their screenshots, just use code DUMB.
Unfollow. Block. Stop funding their highlight reels.
I blocked these three stooges when I exposed them before but ya’ll called me a hater. 💅🏼























