FIFTY

Candace Owens Clashes With Marc Lamont Hill in Heated Debate Over Transgender Identity and Biological Sex. Candace Owens: "Can Trans men get pregnant?" Marc Lamont Hill: "It depends." Candace Owens: What does it depend on? Marc Lamont Hill: I know trans men that can get pregnant. Candace Owens: That means it's a woman. Marc Lamont Hill: That's a circular argument. That's making it—that's a circular argument. It's proving my thing. There is a truth, a concrete truth. Candace Owens: You have to be born with a uterus to have a baby. Only women can get pregnant. The fact that we have arrived in a society where this is even debatable, that's the part I'm disagreeing with. Marc Lamont Hill: My point was that a social construct doesn't ignore physical realities, right? The social construct is about how we as a society make sense of those physical realities. Candace Owens: But you just did that when you said that men could give birth. Marc Lamont Hill: I'm not denying the biological reality of maleness, of the genitalia we're assigned at birth and what we can do with those body parts. I'm not denying that. That's a biological reality. Again, the social meaning I'm attaching to it is what I'm saying is more complicated. Candace Owens: It's not complicated. Can men give birth? Marc Lamont Hill: Sometimes. That's my answer.