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๐จ Ep. 105 of @TokenizedPod:ย Is the Stablecoin Sandwich Dead?
@sytaylor & @cuysheffield areย joined by:
๐ย @jacqmelinek, Founder & CEO, @StrataMedia_
๐ย @manueljgodoym, Co-Founder & CEO, @Felixpago
To discuss:
๐๏ธ Mastercard and BVNK launch unified fiat and stablecoin accounts
โ Visa Direct launches stablecoin-powered cross-border money movement and payouts
โ๏ธ Stablecoin liquidity challenges across smaller Latin American remittance corridors
๐ณ Rain launches embedded stablecoin wallets and vertically integrated payments infrastructure
๐ Hiding stablecoin complexity from customers and unlocking DeFi adoption
๐ฎ How stablecoin yield could transform traditional remittance business models
๐ฅ USDC and USDT dominance versus emerging branded stablecoin competitors
โ๏ธ DRW and Marex execute tokenized index swap on Canton
๐ USDC becomes the EU's first significant e-money token under MiCA
๐ฆ Kraken's parent Payward acquires Lithuanian bank to accelerate European expansion
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:00 Mastercard and BVNK launch unified fiat and stablecoin accounts
05:52 Visa Direct launches stablecoin-powered cross-border money movement and payouts
10:22 Stablecoin liquidity challenges across smaller Latin American remittance corridors
15:44 Rain launches embedded stablecoin wallets and vertically integrated payments infrastructure
21:23 Hiding stablecoin complexity from customers and unlocking DeFi adoption
24:16 How stablecoin yield could transform traditional remittance business models
29:38 USDC and USDT dominance versus emerging branded stablecoin competitors
34:26 DRW and Marex execute tokenized index swap on Canton
40:36 USDC becomes the EU's first significant e-money token under MiCA
46:21 Kraken's parent Payward acquires Lithuanian bank to accelerate European expansion
***
๐๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ๐ค๐ฉ '๐๐ฐ๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ช๐ป๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต' ๐๐ฏ ๐ ๐ฐ๐ถ๐๐ถ๐ฃ๐ฆ. ๐๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ญ๐ฆ, ๐๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ต๐ช๐ง๐บ ๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ข๐ฏ๐บ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต ๐๐ญ๐ข๐บ๐ฆ๐ณ! ๐
Founder @StrataMedia_ , @jacqmelinek breaks down how Rain is assembling cards, stored value, regulatory infrastructure and wallets into a vertically integrated payments stack on Tokenizedโฃ
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"ANSA for stored value came in August."โฃ
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"The OCC trust charter filing, although it's not approved, but they filed."โฃ
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"I kinda see the company moving from just being a card issuer behind someone else's app to really kinda holding the balances."โฃ
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"Whoever holds the balance owns the customer."โฃ
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"Rain just moved away from just the card side to actually having the full account."โฃ
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Four separate filings in under a year point to one card issuer trying to become the account of record.โฃ
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Enjoyed joining @sytaylor and @cuysheffield on @TokenizedPod to talk about the latest developments in stablecoins and tokenization!
Listen in below ๐
๐จ Ep. 105 of @TokenizedPod:ย Is the Stablecoin Sandwich Dead?
@sytaylor & @cuysheffield areย joined by:
๐ย @jacqmelinek, Founder & CEO, @StrataMedia_
๐ย @manueljgodoym, Co-Founder & CEO, @Felixpago
To discuss:
๐๏ธ Mastercard and BVNK launch unified fiat and stablecoin accounts
โ Visa Direct launches stablecoin-powered cross-border money movement and payouts
โ๏ธ Stablecoin liquidity challenges across smaller Latin American remittance corridors
๐ณ Rain launches embedded stablecoin wallets and vertically integrated payments infrastructure
๐ Hiding stablecoin complexity from customers and unlocking DeFi adoption
๐ฎ How stablecoin yield could transform traditional remittance business models
๐ฅ USDC and USDT dominance versus emerging branded stablecoin competitors
โ๏ธ DRW and Marex execute tokenized index swap on Canton
๐ USDC becomes the EU's first significant e-money token under MiCA
๐ฆ Kraken's parent Payward acquires Lithuanian bank to accelerate European expansion
***
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:00 Mastercard and BVNK launch unified fiat and stablecoin accounts
05:52 Visa Direct launches stablecoin-powered cross-border money movement and payouts
10:22 Stablecoin liquidity challenges across smaller Latin American remittance corridors
15:44 Rain launches embedded stablecoin wallets and vertically integrated payments infrastructure
21:23 Hiding stablecoin complexity from customers and unlocking DeFi adoption
24:16 How stablecoin yield could transform traditional remittance business models
29:38 USDC and USDT dominance versus emerging branded stablecoin competitors
34:26 DRW and Marex execute tokenized index swap on Canton
40:36 USDC becomes the EU's first significant e-money token under MiCA
46:21 Kraken's parent Payward acquires Lithuanian bank to accelerate European expansion
***
๐๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ๐ค๐ฉ '๐๐ฐ๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ช๐ป๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต' ๐๐ฏ ๐ ๐ฐ๐ถ๐๐ถ๐ฃ๐ฆ. ๐๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ญ๐ฆ, ๐๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ต๐ช๐ง๐บ ๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ข๐ฏ๐บ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต ๐๐ญ๐ข๐บ๐ฆ๐ณ! ๐
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Co-Founder & CEO, @Felixpago, @manueljgodoym thinks USDC and USDT win the stablecoin race, here's what he said on Tokenized:โฃ
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"I believe there's only gonna be, two stablecoins winners, and it's gonna be USDC and maybe USDT."โฃ
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"I think the other ones that are being created, they don't make any sense."โฃ
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"The USDC and USDT is gonna be continually much more prevalent everywhere in the world, and that's gonna improve the liquidity."โฃ
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"What matters about stablecoin is the fact that it's pegged to the US dollar."โฃ
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"They want the stability of the dollar. They want the reliability of the dollar. They want the reputation of the dollar."โฃ
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How do you pay out pesos in Mexico without keeping pesos in a Mexican bank account?
On @TokenizedPod, @cuysheffield put that question to @manueljgodoym of @Felixpago.
Wise-style remittance models fund local accounts in every corridor ahead of time.
Fรฉlix sends USDC and buys pesos in a 24/7 market when the payout happens, at an FX rate Manuel says comes close to interbank.
Cuy names the trade-off: no capital sits idle in each country, but you need a liquidity partner on the receiving side.
๐๏ธ Listen to the latest episode of Tokenized: tokenizedpod.com/episodes/isโฆ
๐ท Watch on YouTube: youtu.be/cH6LSHBCKIs
On Tokenized, @sytaylor said fintechs need handholding for stablecoin yield: โฃ
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"Once you could stick an earn button on something, whether it's corporates, MSBs, or consumer remittance businesses, they get the business case straight away."โฃ
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"With direct custody of stablecoins, with the ability to essentially through the white label yield sharing, potentially earn some revenue there."โฃ
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"The consumer feels like they're getting a great deal on what was historically maybe a bank account or a local bank giving you nothing. Now you can be getting three, four, five percent, and it's US dollar backed."โฃ
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"A lot of demand from fintech companies to have a bit of handholding."โฃ
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"It's helping people understand what is this product, how do you get comfortable with compliance, what are the differences between these funds, how do you separate them all."โฃ
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The yield sells itself at three to five percent. What fintechs still need before launch is help with custody, compliance and picking the right fund.โฃ
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Engineer @privy_io, @kaili_jenner on designing privacy for @Deelโฃ
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"Building with Deel as a design partner has been a hugely rewarding experience because not only is it the prime example for when you need privacy"โฃ
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"You don't necessarily need full privacy where even Deel themselves cannot see the payments"โฃ
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"Deel does wanna see the payments and does need to do accounting, etcetera"โฃ
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"Being really clear on what exactly is needed has been hugely helpful in this experience"โฃ
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The privacy layer hides payment details from coworkers while leaving Deel's own accounting and compliance checks untouched.โฃ
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Our guest for Monday's Tokenized Podcast
@sytaylor and @cuysheffield are joined by:
๐ @jacqmelinek, founder, @StrataMedia_
๐ @manueljgodoym, Co-founder & CEO, @Felixpago
Out on Monday at 8am PT / 11am ET / 4pm GMT
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Co-Founder & CEO, @Bastion, @nassyweazy on why enterprises choose different stablecoin pathsโฃ
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"The DNA of Bastion really comes from the problems that we saw firsthand at Meta working on the Libra project, tech leading all of the custody and wallet and cross border payment infrastructure there as well as the issuance of the Libra currency."โฃ
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"Bastion has focused on stablecoin infrastructure specifically for enterprises that need some level of security, compliance, but then just integrations that work for them."โฃ
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"They don't ask anymore what can stablecoins do for me. They actually understand it, and it's more about how do I go about launching that, where do I partner, what do I build myself, where do I obtain my own licenses, where do I leverage someone else's license."โฃ
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"Sony, for example, decided to obtain their own charter, whereas Samsung fully relies on Bastion's licenses."โฃ
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Same technology, two different paths. Sony owns its license, Samsung rents Bastion's.โฃ
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Engineer @privy_io, @kaili_jenner on privacy as an API config with Privy: โฃ
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"This is basically the easiest way to add privacy to your fintech stack."โฃ
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"The use of privacy in a stack is more of a configuration on your API calls as opposed to anything really more than that."โฃ
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For most teams, adding privacy becomes one parameter change rather than a new system to build.โฃ
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๐๐ถ๐๐ฐ๐๐๐๐ฒ๐ฑ:
๐ฆ How Citadel used a tokenized 2-year Treasury as collateral for an overnight repo with BNY, which BNY calls the first use of tokenized assets on a major triparty repo platform
๐ Why Rainโs new wallet, plus its Ansa buy and OCC trust bank filing, makes it more than a stablecoin card company
๐ณ Mastercard and BVNK launch one platform for fiat and stablecoin accounts, cards and payouts, their first product since the acquisition
๐๏ธ USDC becomes the EUโs first significant e-money token under MiCA, moving its supervision to the EBA from 12 November
Read the full piece, link belowโฌ๏ธ
Greg Bricca, Head of Product, @morsemoney on consumer rights in tokenised assets with host @sytaylorโฃ
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"Is it really clear for the customer what they have access to."โฃ
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"Not only just the asset, but what this looks like on voting shares, what it looks like on dividends."โฃ
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"Oftentimes, when you have the broadening access, this is often like a first experience for our users."โฃ
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"Not stopping any of the appetite here. The appetite's there."โฃ
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Tokenised shares raise the same question as the underlying stock, whether buyers actually know what rights come with ownership.โฃ
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Head of Crypto, @Deel, @thierryEdde44 on building a private stablecoin wallet for contractors with host @sytaylor on Tokenized โฃ
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"The current functionality is they have a wallet they can hold funds into, potentially earn through DeFi, and we're soon adding the ability for them to spend."โฃ
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"We've now migrated fully to the Tempo zones, which allows us to provide our contractors with a fully private experience, meaning they can transact in and out of the zones fully privately and confidentially."โฃ
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"On chain, currently, you can't query balances of any Deel wallets. You cannot receive sender or recipient information or have that visibility."โฃ
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"Deel actually maintain all visibility into the transactions in and out of those wallets while the users and any other parties querying that information on chain will no longer see that."โฃ
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Deel keeps its own backend view of every wallet while the public chain shows nothing, splitting compliance visibility from public visibility.โฃ
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Getting paid in stablecoins shouldnโt put your finances on public display.
Deelโs stablecoin wallet uses Tempo Zones for private contractor balances and payments.
โThey can transact in and out of the Zone fully privately and confidentiallyโ
From @thierryEdde44 on @TokenizedPod
Tempoโs @sytaylor sat down with @thierryEdde44 from @Deel and @kaili_jenner from @privy_io to chat about how Deel is using Tempo Zones for private stablecoin payments.
Watch the full conversation on @TokenizedPod:
๐จ BONUS @TokenizedPod! ๐จ
@sytaylor isย joined by:
๐ @thierryEdde44, Head of Crypto, @Deel
๐ @kaili_jenner, Engineer,ย @privy_io
To discuss:
๐ณ Deel's embedded stablecoin wallet for contractors in emerging markets
๐ก๏ธ How Tempo Zones protects contractor privacy while preserving Deel's visibility
๐ง How Privy's APIs simplify Deel's migration to private Tempo Zones
โก๏ธ Thousands of contractor wallets successfully migrated to private Tempo Zones
๐ ๏ธ Designing private stablecoin payments around real business requirements
๐๏ธ Maintaining payroll transaction visibility for support, reconciliation and audits
๐ Expanding stablecoin payouts into new markets while navigating compliance
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Enabling private stablecoin payments through simple Privy API configuration
๐ Growing demand for private stablecoin funding and chain agnostic solutions
๐ค Comparing Tempo's approach with protocol, chain and application level privacy
***
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
0:31 Deel's embedded stablecoin wallet for contractors in emerging markets
1:41 How Tempo Zones protects contractor privacy while preserving Deel's visibility
3:48 How Privy's APIs simplify Deel's migration to private Tempo Zones
5:13 Thousands of contractor wallets successfully migrated to private Tempo Zones
5:56 Designing private stablecoin payments around real business requirements
7:20 Maintaining payroll transaction visibility for support, reconciliation and audits
8:20 Expanding stablecoin payouts into new markets while navigating compliance
9:37 Enabling private stablecoin payments through simple Privy API configuration
10:57 Growing demand for private stablecoin funding and chain agnostic solutions
12:08 Comparing Tempo's approach with protocol, chain and application level privacy
***
๐๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ๐ค๐ฉ '๐๐ฐ๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ช๐ป๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต' ๐๐ฏ ๐ ๐ฐ๐ถ๐๐ถ๐ฃ๐ฆ. ๐๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ญ๐ฆ, ๐๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ต๐ช๐ง๐บ ๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ข๐ฏ๐บ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต ๐๐ญ๐ข๐บ๐ฆ๐ณ! ๐
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NEW: @tempo Head of Market Development & Host of @TokenizedPod @sytaylor to speak at DAS London
Nov 10-11. London. Donโt miss it.
๐จ BONUS @TokenizedPod! ๐จ
@sytaylor isย joined by:
๐ @thierryEdde44, Head of Crypto, @Deel
๐ @kaili_jenner, Engineer,ย @privy_io
To discuss:
๐ณ Deel's embedded stablecoin wallet for contractors in emerging markets
๐ก๏ธ How Tempo Zones protects contractor privacy while preserving Deel's visibility
๐ง How Privy's APIs simplify Deel's migration to private Tempo Zones
โก๏ธ Thousands of contractor wallets successfully migrated to private Tempo Zones
๐ ๏ธ Designing private stablecoin payments around real business requirements
๐๏ธ Maintaining payroll transaction visibility for support, reconciliation and audits
๐ Expanding stablecoin payouts into new markets while navigating compliance
โ
Enabling private stablecoin payments through simple Privy API configuration
๐ Growing demand for private stablecoin funding and chain agnostic solutions
๐ค Comparing Tempo's approach with protocol, chain and application level privacy
***
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
0:31 Deel's embedded stablecoin wallet for contractors in emerging markets
1:41 How Tempo Zones protects contractor privacy while preserving Deel's visibility
3:48 How Privy's APIs simplify Deel's migration to private Tempo Zones
5:13 Thousands of contractor wallets successfully migrated to private Tempo Zones
5:56 Designing private stablecoin payments around real business requirements
7:20 Maintaining payroll transaction visibility for support, reconciliation and audits
8:20 Expanding stablecoin payouts into new markets while navigating compliance
9:37 Enabling private stablecoin payments through simple Privy API configuration
10:57 Growing demand for private stablecoin funding and chain agnostic solutions
12:08 Comparing Tempo's approach with protocol, chain and application level privacy
***
๐๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ๐ค๐ฉ '๐๐ฐ๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ช๐ป๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต' ๐๐ฏ ๐ ๐ฐ๐ถ๐๐ถ๐ฃ๐ฆ. ๐๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ญ๐ฆ, ๐๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ต๐ช๐ง๐บ ๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ข๐ฏ๐บ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต ๐๐ญ๐ข๐บ๐ฆ๐ณ! ๐
Co-Founder & CEO, @Spiko_finance, Paul-Adrien Hyppolite on Europe's missing cash-yield market with host @sytaylorโฃ
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"If you look at The US, the money market industry as a whole is, like, I think more than 8,000,000,000,000 US dollars at this point in time. And the ratio of, like, assets that sit in MMF divided by bank deposit is north of 40%."โฃ
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"It's seven x smaller, more than seven x smaller in Europe, where the market is essentially dominated by banks."โฃ
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"You're usually not earning any yield similar to The US, I think, on checking accounts."โฃ
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"The product that you are being offered is a term deposit, you have to tie up your cash for three months, six months, twelve months."โฃ
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European savers are left with a binary choice, deposits that pay nothing or locking up cash for months to get a rate.โฃ
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